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Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36610 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Yes, very enlightening, on how far 1 can sink. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36610 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
yawn |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11414 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
We must, to a great extent, limit the power we give to humans. Anarchy would work in your ideal world. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36610 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
You know where I'm from Clyde, have you ever bothered to take a look at and examine a different reality? |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24909 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Unfortunately, those humans given the power, or those replacing them in the future. Will, to those who truly understand human frailties and history. Use their authority to increase their power and enrich their wealth to the detriment of the people, as has always happened and will always happen. Until we can ensure that only benevolent, moral and ethical humans will be given the power.With you repeatedly stating the 1st quote, where do you think such "gods" in the 2nd quote will come from - Space? |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30981 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Unfortunately, those humans given the power, or those replacing them in the future. Will, to those who truly understand human frailties and history. Use their authority to increase their power and enrich their wealth to the detriment of the people, as has always happened and will always happen.Until we can ensure that only benevolent, moral and ethical humans will be given the power.With you repeatedly stating the 1st quote, where do you think such "gods" in the 2nd quote will come from - Space? Checks and balances. Put a GOP in white house, require democrat majority in congress. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11414 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
We must, to a great extent, limit the power we give to humans. Who in in your learned opinion should have that power? |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24909 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
We must, to a great extent, limit the power we give to humans.Are you trying to tell us that you are a member of a superior alien race & not a human? |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19369 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
It would seem to me you are viewing the world as being either Capitalist or Socialist, without understanding there are many shades of government. Unrestricted Capitalism is a system of the 'haves' and the 'have nots' which over time means the gap gets wider and the number of 'haves' gets smaller but still grabs a bigger slice of the pie, by allowing money to buy votes for the policies they want. This is Trumps dream. The danger is similar to the French Revolution where the 'have nots' rise up and decapitate the 'haves' if they don't flee. Social Capitalism restricts the variation by limiting the slice that the 'haves' own by various means but notably by increased, but not crippling, tax rates over certain limits and using this to support the 'have nots' so that they do not slide into absolute poverty. This was GOP view some time ago. Socialism heavily restricts the 'haves' and uses the 'one person one vote' to ensure those that would be the 'have nots' have a reasonable chance of rising out of the gutter. Obama's view. At the far end of socialism is Communism where everybody gets the same reward for their labours. Except of course 'somebody' has to have the overall plan and lead the country, and this 'somebody' and his cronies lives in absolute splendor out of sight of the masses. Putin's dream, an outcome not very dissimilar to unrestricted capitalism and with a similar outcome, collapse. Somewhere between Social Capitalism and mild Socialism lies the 'American Dream'. Trump is applying the last few cuts that will kill the 'American Dream'. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24909 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Pretty straight forward English. To show otherwise, would you care to explain just who we are if not human? For a retired teacher your choice of words betray you.We must, to a great extent, limit the power we give to humans.Are you trying to tell us that you are a member of a superior alien race & not a human? |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11414 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
We must, to a great extent, limit the power we give to humans. Why did you not answer my direct question but instead choose to drivel on totally off topic? |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36610 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Yes Clyde's understanding of things is very limited and fancy a certain person demanding answers when he can't do so himself. ROFLMFAO!!!!! |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24909 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
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betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11414 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Shame on you continuing to post and refusing to answer my direct question. Do enjoy being intellectually bankrupt? |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11414 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
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Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24909 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
You're doing a first class job of deflection from the topic. Whatever happened to your "mantra" back on topic? |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24909 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
A trip to Specsavers is required. :-) Do you really have ANY IDEA who you are replying to at times? |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24909 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Once again JUST who is this "Mysterious we" you keep mentioning? As for not giving centralised power to "humans" are you of the opinion that you along with all other humans are best controlled by a computer? You really do need to choose your words carefully as all you are doing is giving those who read them, plenty of chuckles. So many, you would do well as a comedian :-) |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24909 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
1/10, must do better or you'll be laughed off the stage. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24909 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
There are countless women out there who are smiling - All because you're not a doctor :-) For that matter, so are a lot of "humans" :-) |
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