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Message 1941973 - Posted: 30 Jun 2018, 14:01:34 UTC - in response to Message 1941972.  

Referring to your asinine question again? Here is a question for you: Where & provide proof, that such a late term abortion has been made? If you want reasonable discussions so badly, I suggest you pose sensible & reasonable questions, not those that one can drive a train through their holes!
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Message 1941981 - Posted: 30 Jun 2018, 15:23:08 UTC

sigh, the bot woke up from his home under the bridge.
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Message 1941985 - Posted: 30 Jun 2018, 15:51:04 UTC - in response to Message 1941968.  

I will try to answer, as I understood it. Location is no difference. The difference is only in the different opinions about the origin of human life, the maturation of the fetus and birth.
That is the question. WHO determines that & when in the pregnancy does that occur?
Unfortunately today that seems to be a religious nutcase that makes the determination.
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Message 1941991 - Posted: 30 Jun 2018, 16:11:45 UTC - in response to Message 1941985.  

True sadly enough. However I agree with Vadim, let scientists determine it.
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Message 1941993 - Posted: 30 Jun 2018, 16:22:54 UTC - in response to Message 1941967.  

Men who refuse to accept responsibilities.


Do you think such a man should be prosecuted by law? Should he be responsible?

After sexual intercourse, a man must bear responsibility. It's my opinion.

Frequently the man is gone. He may have been a tourist from another country. In the USA and much of the western world there is not a database of all DNA to find out who the man is. How can you force him to be responsible if you don't know who it is? Then we have the religious nuts who want to punish the woman for having sex without being married; forcing her to raise a child by herself without aid is one of their chief punishment tools.
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Message 1941995 - Posted: 30 Jun 2018, 16:36:48 UTC - in response to Message 1941991.  

True sadly enough. However I agree with Vadim, let scientists determine it.

We have a word, viability, which I used earlier.
ability to survive or live successfully


Interesting thing is when does a human become viable?
capable of surviving or living successfully


I point out there is an issue.
A fish, such as salmon, is viable as an egg. It hatches, eats and grows up all by itself. Mom and dad are already dead by the time it hatches.
A mammal, can't live by itself at birth. It needs its mothers milk to survive and also needs its mom to teach it how to hunt or scavenge.

What standard do we tell the scientists to use to make the determination? One that works for all life or one that is specific to humans?
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Message 1941996 - Posted: 30 Jun 2018, 16:39:12 UTC - in response to Message 1941993.  

Then we have the religious nuts who want to punish the woman for having sex without being married; forcing her to raise a child by herself without aid is one of their chief punishment tools.
Who behind closed doors, have sex with single females/males & often when at a tender age.
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Message 1941997 - Posted: 30 Jun 2018, 16:56:43 UTC - in response to Message 1941949.  

What slavery are you talking about?

You claim the right to tell a woman what to do with her body, IMO that's slavery.
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Message 1942009 - Posted: 30 Jun 2018, 18:47:15 UTC - in response to Message 1941997.  

What slavery are you talking about?

You claim the right to tell a woman what to do with her body, IMO that's slavery.

We could get explicit with examples of slave masters buying women for the purpose of making babies to be sold. Or we could go somewhat more recent and Islamic State raping women to have its next generation of warriors.

Forced pregnancy is ugly.
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Message 1942010 - Posted: 30 Jun 2018, 18:49:27 UTC - in response to Message 1942009.  

Don't forget forced marriages & "honour" killings.
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Message 1942020 - Posted: 30 Jun 2018, 20:01:52 UTC - in response to Message 1942019.  

It is interesting to observe that all recent posts are from men.
Does that include you?
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Message 1942025 - Posted: 30 Jun 2018, 20:33:30 UTC - in response to Message 1942021.  

Add another possible "if". As with many other issues, what if the 'scientists' don't agree? Then what?
That's for 2 categories of people to answer, you're in neither one :-)
1: Women
2:Scientists
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Message 1942028 - Posted: 30 Jun 2018, 20:41:55 UTC - in response to Message 1942026.  

Add another possible "if". As with many other issues, what if the 'scientists' don't agree? Then what?
That's for 2 categories of people to answer, you're in neither one :-)
1: Women
2:Scientists

Only women scientists?

Only women posters allowed to post?
Are you that ****** ** that you really don't know what your reading or writing?
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Message 1942035 - Posted: 30 Jun 2018, 20:54:24 UTC - in response to Message 1942033.  

Again, My apologizes to women for Sirius B. sidestepping any reasoned or intellect discussion regarding Your Rights. In order to continue his never ending personal attacks.
So if a woman attacks you verbally stating THAT you have no right to apologise for another & 2ndly, that you're nothing but a B/S'er regarding her rights with abortion, you would accept what she says to you?

I would add another to her statement, you're good at picking up on "slights" but useless at answering questions.

So here's a direct question for you: Would you kowtow to her or attack her as unmoral & unethical & not intellectual enough for you?

AS YOU are not a woman, you cannot defend them or denigrate with regards abortion!
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Message 1942040 - Posted: 30 Jun 2018, 21:06:50 UTC - in response to Message 1942037.  

Your poor man, retirement must be such a b*tch, surely there must be something you can find to keep that "moral, ethical intellect" mind busy :-)
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Message 1942043 - Posted: 30 Jun 2018, 21:08:18 UTC - in response to Message 1942041.  
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Sigh. Too bad the under bridge dweller woke up.
Time for a bunch of posts to move so debate can continue.
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Message 1942045 - Posted: 30 Jun 2018, 21:11:15 UTC - in response to Message 1942043.  

Yeah, like his friends down South. Unfortunately they woke up too late :-)
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Message 1942052 - Posted: 30 Jun 2018, 21:24:56 UTC - in response to Message 1942048.  

I have always said that the Right of a Women to Obtain an Abortion is paramount to other possible issues.
So why deflect when others pass an opinion?
You have on many occasions called several posters "silly" that itself is a personal attack that you don't see? However a direct reply knocking your "silly" questions, you do?

Not very intellectual of you is it?
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Message 1942058 - Posted: 30 Jun 2018, 21:32:25 UTC - in response to Message 1942056.  

So you're leaving us?
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Message 1942063 - Posted: 30 Jun 2018, 21:40:25 UTC - in response to Message 1942059.  

Okay so I'll repost a question ON THE TOPIC that you have already deflected.

Show us PROOF of any doctor doing an abortion 2 weeks before full term!
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