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Message 2099508 - Posted: 14 May 2022, 2:14:44 UTC - in response to Message 2099499.  

These Border Crossers are The Healthiest; Well Dressed; Fittest; Crisply Moving; Happiest; Bouncy; Migrants EVER to Cross Any Border in da World - ThroughOut History.
No Matter HOW LONG Their Trek - They BOUND Over da Border Like No Others Ever.
None are GASPING for Water or Begging for FOOD. Many Are OVERWEIGHT by a Large Amount.
None are Wearing RAGs.


Political refugees are not necessarily poor.
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Message 2099510 - Posted: 14 May 2022, 3:44:57 UTC

Political refugees are not necessarily poor.


Yeah. I've Noticed 4-Wheel Drive LIMOs Pulling Up to da Border and Fancy
Pants Getting Out and Opening Doors fo da Richie Rich Refugees Pouring Out.

Then da Border 'Protectors' Escorting Them to Their Waiting Private Jets.
'course Once they Cross and Processed WEEE da WEEE Peoples Pick Up da Tab.

Fo a VERY LONG TIME.

While da RICHIE RICH Refugees Let Their Dividends and Bond Returns PILE UP.

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Message 2099566 - Posted: 15 May 2022, 1:17:42 UTC

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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/eric-adams-blasts-pro-life-radical-extremists-women-have-right-abortions-up-until-day-birth

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Message 2099567 - Posted: 15 May 2022, 1:26:44 UTC - in response to Message 2099290.  

It is said ”Wayne Dehoney, Southern Baptist Convention president in the 1960’s, noted, in 1976, the difference between Protestant and Catholic theology when he said: Protestant theology generally takes Genesis 2:7 as a statement that the soul is formed at breath, not conception.'"
My question is, can anyone track down where he originally said this?


This is a possibly "official" info source for the denomination:

"The blog cited as evidence a 1971 Southern Baptist Convention resolution that supported “legislation that will allow the possibility of abortion under such conditions as rape, incest, clear evidence of severe fetal deformity, and carefully ascertained evidence of the likelihood of damage to the emotional, mental and physical health of the mother.”

In his 2006 book, Thy Kingdom Come, Randall Balmer noted the approval of the Supreme Court’s 1973 Roe v. Wade decision that legalized most abortion by First Baptist of Dallas Pastor W.A. Criswell, president of the Southern Baptist Convention at the time."

“Protestant theology generally takes Genesis 2:7 as a statement that the soul is formed at breath, not conception,” Dehoney said.


At the time the Declaration and Constitution were written, given that instruments for safe internal examination were basically non-existent, it was uncontroversial that a fetus was not considered alive at all until its "quickening", when it began to noticeably move, at 17 to 23 weeks which is in the second trimester. There were absolutely no restrictions against termination before quickening whether by chemical, surgical or other means in any state. (Even Benjamin Franklin published a how-to walkthrough based on pennyroyal.)


Christians be like, "U no wanna be pregnant, no does the s33x".
bLESSED hOLy mama Mari virginesco be like: looks on in stoopified horror. Very shocked by her/her son's followas.
Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes.
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Message 2099569 - Posted: 15 May 2022, 4:13:18 UTC

EVOLVING and ABSOLVING Baby!!!!!

It Is GOoD to be Homo Sapiens

Wat da Heck doe Birth CONTROL Mean? Dat be a Funky Term. Does NOT Belong in Same
Sentence as Abortion.

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Message 2099571 - Posted: 15 May 2022, 5:19:34 UTC - in response to Message 2099569.  

Wat da Heck doe Birth CONTROL Mean? Dat be a Funky Term. Does NOT Belong in Same
Sentence as Abortion.
Well, only if you are "one of those"
Monty Python's explanation. NSFW www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk
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Message 2099580 - Posted: 15 May 2022, 8:01:22 UTC
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Wat da Heck doe Birth CONTROL Mean? Dat be a Funky Term. Does NOT Belong in Same
Sentence as Abortion.

Birth control means controlling when a wanted birth occurs.
To do this, contraceptives are the preferred method of birth control, but abortions are used as a means of last resort if contraception fails or is not used.

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Re: Gary's link.
Their god must be very angry if each sperm shouldn't be wasted.

Normal sperm densities range from 15 million to greater than 200 million sperm per milliliter of semen. (a teaspoon is approx 5 milliliters)
And it takes up to a year of trying, to become pregnant, on average, so the experts say.

I'll let you do the maths of how many sperm are wasted, even if you only have sex to propagate the species.
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Message 2099585 - Posted: 15 May 2022, 8:22:48 UTC

To do this, contraceptives are the preferred method of birth control, but abortions are used as a means of last resort if contraception fails or is not used.

Many years ago one of my assistants was "proud" of her record. She would go out a weekend and get drunk to the point of loosing all inhibitions, she'd then bed hop for the rest of the night and come in on Monday morning looking somewhat worse for wear and boasting about her bed hopping. Inevitably few contraceptives were used. A few weeks later she'd find she was pregnant and arrange an abortion. This cycle would repeat every few months. Other women we worked with tried to convince her that her actions would have, at best, unpleasant consequences, which needless to say they did; I'm not going to go into details here as they are gross, but non-fatal (barely).
So, for some the use of abortion is a form of birth control, and in such circumstances I feel it is an abuse not a right. There are times when an abortion is the "right thing", particularly when it is carried out to save the mother's health (mental or physical) or life.
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Message 2099603 - Posted: 15 May 2022, 14:30:42 UTC - in response to Message 2099585.  

To do this, contraceptives are the preferred method of birth control, but abortions are used as a means of last resort if contraception fails or is not used.

Many years ago one of my assistants was "proud" of her record. She would go out a weekend and get drunk to the point of loosing all inhibitions, she'd then bed hop for the rest of the night and come in on Monday morning looking somewhat worse for wear and boasting about her bed hopping. Inevitably few contraceptives were used. A few weeks later she'd find she was pregnant and arrange an abortion. This cycle would repeat every few months. Other women we worked with tried to convince her that her actions would have, at best, unpleasant consequences, which needless to say they did; I'm not going to go into details here as they are gross, but non-fatal (barely).
So, for some the use of abortion is a form of birth control, and in such circumstances I feel it is an abuse not a right. There are times when an abortion is the "right thing", particularly when it is carried out to save the mother's health (mental or physical) or life.

Was this, getting drunk to have sex, the result of being brought up in a god fearing home?
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Message 2099608 - Posted: 15 May 2022, 14:54:57 UTC - in response to Message 2099603.  
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From what I saw of her activities as a by-stander she just got drunk to get drunk and sex came along by virtue of the location of her drinking activities (indeed sometimes from what she said on the day after one of her sessions, I think she thought it got in the way of her next drink.)
A good question, but I knew her parents who both professed to be "pot smoking atheists" so gave their children very little "moral guidance" with her two brothers migrating from one of Her Majesty's B&B to the next, starting their paths at very young ages. However her older sister was a very different person, almost morally antipodal to her sister (and looked scarily like her mother!).
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Message 2099900 - Posted: 20 May 2022, 22:05:24 UTC

They're starting to say the quiet part out loud...

Trump-Endorsed Candidate Backs Banning Birth Control

Donald Trump’s pick for a Michigan state Senate seat is promising to ban all birth control if she gets the chance.

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Message 2099922 - Posted: 21 May 2022, 15:15:41 UTC - in response to Message 2099900.  

They're starting to say the quiet part out loud...

Trump-Endorsed Candidate Backs Banning Birth Control

Donald Trump’s pick for a Michigan state Senate seat is promising to ban all birth control if she gets the chance.

How can they be for so much government control and intrusion into the lives of people. Why they screeched about mask mandates you would think that they want total hands off everyone. Truth be out in the open, they want to force their religion upon everyone.
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Message 2099929 - Posted: 21 May 2022, 19:38:34 UTC

There is NEVER a 'Quiet Part'.

American People have Been 'OUT LOUD' fo a LONG Time.

dA WAY Weeee da Weeee Peoples LIKE 'IT'.

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Message 2099935 - Posted: 21 May 2022, 21:07:09 UTC - in response to Message 2099929.  
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dA WAY Weeee da Weeee Peoples LIKE 'IT'.


If you're seriously agreeing with banning birth control, I highly doubt "Weeee da Weeee Peoples" is more than a disproportionately noisy ten percent or so radical fringe.
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Message 2101890 - Posted: 24 Jun 2022, 14:52:13 UTC

Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade

The Supreme Court in a 6-3 decision on Friday overturned Roe v. Wade, the landmark ruling that established the constitutional right to abortion in the U.S. in 1973.

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Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade

The Supreme Court in a 6-3 decision on Friday overturned Roe v. Wade, the landmark ruling that established the constitutional right to abortion in the U.S. in 1973.

2 thoughts, of course women shoulds not have control of their bodies that's a decision to be made by others and contraception is next.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/same-sex-marriage-contraception-roe-v-wade-decision-1373759/
Same-Sex Marriage and Contraception Should Be Next on Chopping Block: Clarence Thomas

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Message 2101893 - Posted: 24 Jun 2022, 15:59:23 UTC - in response to Message 2101892.  

Same-Sex Marriage and Contraception Should Be Next on Chopping Block: Clarence Thomas


Gosh, he conveniently accidentally overlooked Loving v. Virginia. That isn't very originalist of him.
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Message 2101894 - Posted: 24 Jun 2022, 17:00:56 UTC

Apologies to all.
Joe Biden speaks.

Speaking now, US President Joe Biden says the Supreme Court has taken away a constitutional right of the American people.
"They didn't limit it, they simply took it away," Biden says.
"It's a sad day for the court and for the country."
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Message 2101895 - Posted: 24 Jun 2022, 17:01:36 UTC

Joe Biden said that he believes Roe v Wade “was a direct decision” that drew a balance between a woman’s right to choose and the state’s ability to regulate abortions.
That compromise, he said, was “acceptable” to most Americans of different faiths and backgrounds.
Biden added that Roe v Wade survived administrations from both parties over decades – until Donald Trump.
“Make no mistake, this decision is a combination of a deliberate effort over decades,” he said, adding that it is the realisation of “an extreme ideology”.
He added that the decision is an “error” that takes away a right that is “so fundamental” to make Americans.
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