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Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24909 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
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W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19376 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Unintended consequences. "If a fetus is a person, it should get child support, due process and citizenship" is the title of an article in WaPo. A read that might lead to some discussion From the article. Should child support start at conception? Can a pregnant immigrant who conceived her child in the United States be expelled? A fetus has not committed a crime, not been arraigned or charged, not weathered a trial by a jury of its peers, not had the opportunity to confront its accuser. So can a pregnant womanbe detained? If personhood begins in utero, a fetus will need a name and a Social Security number to begin exercising private rights and using public resources. If a fetus is granted personhood, should be included in the census count. Basically how do you apply the 14th to a fetus. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24909 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
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Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30988 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
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MichaelEdits Send message Joined: 26 May 19 Posts: 30 Credit: 574,975 RAC: 0 |
How about this? I won't control your uterus and you won't control mine. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24909 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
This a 1st President Bukele has said that he opposes abortion but has expressed sympathy with women suffering miscarriages who then come under suspicion.So, hope for the future? |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24909 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
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Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24909 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Will the North end up with law the same as the South & UK? NI Abortion Law slapped down |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14679 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
Well, the DUP (to name but one) are absolutely adamant that there should be no divergence between the law in NI and the rest of the UK... |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24909 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Between the 2? The difference is already there. |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14679 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
Between the 2? The difference is already there.I was pointing out the hypocrisy between "there's no difference' and 'we must keep the existing difference'. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24909 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Ah, got it, thanks. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24909 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Well done Arlene. :-) Twice in 3 days, looking good, but you know the 3rd time is a charm. So what are you going to offer next? Midnight tonight, N.!'s abortion laws come into line with the rest of the UK |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30988 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
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Mr. Kevvy Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 3805 Credit: 1,114,826,392 RAC: 3,319 |
Only one abortion location in the entire State of Missouri??? Also Kentucky, Mississippi, North Dakota, South Dakota and West Virginia.. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30988 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Only one abortion location in the entire State of Missouri??? Yes. When superiors tell others what they can't do, then all hell breaks lose. Not any different than the Volstead act. |
Mr. Kevvy Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 3805 Credit: 1,114,826,392 RAC: 3,319 |
This is absolutely the worst piece of legislation on this topic I have ever heard of. In Ohio, women with ectopic pregnancies (which will be fatal due to internal bleeding) under a proposed bill are going to be forced to have them re-implanted, which would also be fatal, and can't even be done? Ohio bill would make doctors 'reimplant' ectopic pregnancies (which is impossible) or face 'abortion murder' charges Ohio is currently mulling a new abortion bill proposed by Republican senators, House Bill 413, which would force doctors to “reimplant an ectopic pregnancy†into the uterus of a woman who suffered from the complication. This bill also proposes charges of aggravated murder for performing an abortion which means the doctor could technically be executed, and defines a fertilized ovum as a person. All of this is probably just to get it pushed to the now-stacked SCOTUS so Roe v. Wade can be overturned, but putting people's lives at risk as a political gambit is, well, just what I would expect these days. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30988 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
putting people's lives at risk as a political gambit is, well, just what I would expect these days. Yes, very repugnant, but that is what happens when religion is mixed into government. https://www.au.org/ |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36643 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Another example of absolute stupidity. :-( |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19376 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
As there is supposedly a separation of State and Religion but in practice doesn't happen. Then maybe removing the tax exemptions from those religious organisations that get involved with politics as they have broken the laws of the Constitution. |
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