Some men just have to want to control women, News Flash: Cave men are now extinct.

You should be more worried about those kids killed in schools that will never join the workforce Eye.

""What I learned was my grandmother - her mother - was a prominent nurse in the community, and that the local abortionist was a friend of hers.
"Together they literally forced the abortion on my birth mother against her will.
"They were able to bypass the hospital regulations and procedures that my birth mother would have had to go through.
"So people at the hospital thought it was her choice, and she had no opportunity to fight back.""

Another side of the coin

There were uncounted numbers of forced abortions in China under the "one child policy" mostly in the 1990s but it still occurs today.

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""What I learned was my grandmother - her mother - was a prominent nurse in the community, and that the local abortionist was a friend of hers.
"Together they literally forced the abortion on my birth mother against her will.
"They were able to bypass the hospital regulations and procedures that my birth mother would have had to go through.
"So people at the hospital thought it was her choice, and she had no opportunity to fight back.""

Another side of the coin

New information for me.

Still doesn't absolve religious beliefs being imposed upon others.

As soon as that (underlined} became known, they both should have been struck off.

It seems that NI is now slowly entering the 21st century.

SF vote to change abortion policy

With the exception of the DUP - which opposes any change to Northern Ireland's law - the other main parties, Alliance, the SDLP and the Ulster Unionists all allow a freedom of conscience approach amongst its members.

It seems that the DUP wish to remain stuck in the Dark Ages, & this is the party that May uses in clinging to power :-(

It seems that NI is now slowly entering the 21st century.
SF vote to change abortion policy

"The party can now support a law due to be brought before the Irish parliament, which is expected to allow abortions within the first 12 weeks of pregnancy."

"Slowly, yes. But progress.

Surprising to see an intellectual repeat a factual error by a "so-called" intellectual in power :-)
Don't intellectuals make sure of their facts before opening their mouths?

Interesting ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimes_against_humanity

For the purpose of this Statute, "crime against humanity" means any of the following acts when committed as part of a widespread or systematic attack directed against any civilian population, with knowledge of the attack:
(g) Rape, sexual slavery, enforced prostitution, forced pregnancy, enforced sterilization, or any other form of sexual violence of comparable gravity;

Woman's body, woman's choice, or it is "crime against humanity"

But since frequently is is religious based, this is expected.

(h) Persecution against any identifiable group or collectivity on political, racial, national, ethnic, cultural, religious, gender

If your gOD orders it, you can justify even "crime against humanity" Totally sickening.

HORRORs
http://www.dailycaller.com/2018/06/29/dean-cain-gosnell-abortion

YAPe

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!

HORRORS:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/elizabeth-wettlaufer-police-allegations-1.4038003

Canadian nurse murdered nine elderly people under her medical care.
Therefore, we must ban medical care for elderly people.

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I believe that life appears at the moment of conception, and abortion is murder.

That is your opinion. There are places in the world where the mother is guilty of murder if a child is stillborn, because life begins at conception.

In 1776 in the USA a man had the right to beat his minor child to death and it wasn't murder. Or course he could also own people and they were property not human beings with rights and he could dispose of, kill, his property.

Absolutes make rotten law, like zero tolerance* policies.

I believe something in between is correct. Many suggest viability as that in between point.

viability noun: Biology: ability to survive or live successfully

*zero brain

The right to abortion in a woman can only be in one case, if she was raped. In other cases, only with the permission of the biological father.

So you believe in slavery? You state someone else has the right to control your body.

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In other cases, only with the permission of the biological father.

Even if that father is a feckless one?

In other cases, only with the permission of the biological father.

Even if that father is a feckless one?

I did not understand the question, formulate it differently.

Guy wants regular sex, mistake happens, "Pregnant" crops up, guy disappears, in other words, feckless.

To rephrase just for "intellectuals" - Men who refuse to accept responsibilities.

Perhaps there is a Pro Abortion at anytime poster who would wish to have an intelligent and reasoned discussion.

ROFLMAO.

Oh, I thought you wanted a reasonable discussion? Been awake long?

No you failed by making the most asinine PoS I've ever seen.

Let's say, two weeks before expected full term birth, is the healthy (fill-in a description) really different from what that would be two weeks later? Is the location the only difference?

The thread is about abortion & birth control. Most if not all, sensible people are aware that abortions concerns the early stages of pregnancy.

Unlike you, I will admit an "error". I have always thought that a pregnancy full term was 38 weeks. Well that misconception is wrong if this is to be believed.

Pregnancy lasts for about 280 days or 40 weeks. A preterm or premature baby is delivered before 37 weeks of your pregnancy. Extremely preterm infants are born 23 through 28 weeks. Moderately preterm infants are born between 29 and 33 weeks.

Regardless on whether It is 38 or 40 weeks, your question is nothing but a blatant attempt at derailing the thread!

I will try to answer, as I understood it. Location is no difference. The difference is only in the different opinions about the origin of human life, the maturation of the fetus and birth.

That is the question. WHO determines that & when in the pregnancy does that occur?

Men who refuse to accept responsibilities.

Do you think such a man should be prosecuted by law? Should he be responsible?

After sexual intercourse, a man must bear responsibility. It's my opinion.

An opinion shared by many, myself included.