Ok, what the heck is going on with limiting availability of video cards?? At least at Micro Center?

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Message 1875320 - Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 2:48:55 UTC - in response to Message 1875178.  
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The price on a lot of Gtx 1060 6Gb cards has jumped significantly. I yearn for the "olden" days of $200 cards. Now a lot of them are $300+.

I think the Gtx 1060 3Gb cards can still be had for a little over $200...

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O M G! Take a look at this! :-O

EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 FTW+ Gaming DirectX 12 03G-P4-6367-KR 3GB 192-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 FTW+ GAMING ACX 3.0 Video Card

The heck with this, I'm going to be like the smartest people in the CA 1849 gold rush, the ones who sold all that stuff to the miners! Breaking down all my systems and selling all these cards as fast as I can. If they are getting $499 for a freakin' 1060 video card, well, I guess P. T. Barnum said it best well over 100 years ago... Unbelievable. Who knows, maybe I'll get $3-4000 for each of my 1080Ti's??? $$$$$!! ;-)

*edit before I even posted it!*

Just checked the link in the preview window to make sure it worked properly for everyone when I posted it, and when it came up, the price was now $639.98! Sold by PC Outlet, man, I mean Really? And took a closer look, even though I put in the card that I had linked to a couple minutes ago, it redirects me now to this one:

EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 SC GAMING, ACX 2.0 (Single Fan), 03G-P4-6162-KR, 3GB GDDR5, DX12 OSD Support (PXOC) For $640. Really.

PEOPLE!

STOP the insanity!

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*one more edit, just for fun*

Having a hard time believing what I was seeing going on with the 1060's. I thought I would check out what was happening their bigger brothers the 1070s. If anyone has a couple spare minutes and wants a good laugh, just do a search for the EVGA GTX 1070 on NewEeggs site, and see some of the insane prices coming up for some of them. I mean, some are priced at over $1000! I have no idea if they are actually _selling_ for that amount, but it is both extremely sad and a bit humorous to watch. And when switching it to those just sold by Newegg, every. last. one. of them are on auto notify. None in stock.

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Message 1875323 - Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 3:24:14 UTC - in response to Message 1875320.  

Feeling your pain this way in Australia, but with the 2nd hand market.
Just seen pop up 2 x AMD HD 7950s asking for 250 a pop.
Then this one popped up 1 x 7970 and 1 x 280x both asking for 250 each again.

This is just getting ridiculous lol. Maybe the bottom will fallout before Xmas and prices back to normal.
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Message 1875326 - Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 3:30:21 UTC - in response to Message 1875323.  
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This is 11 hours old but thought I would just post this here anyway

Mining specific cards are real - ASUS and Sapphire GP106 and RX 470 show up


https://www.pcper.com/news/Graphics-Cards/Mining-specific-cards-are-real-ASUS-and-Sapphire-GP106-and-RX-470-show
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Message 1875331 - Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 3:52:52 UTC

I will wait it out, the insane bubble can't last for long.
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Message 1875332 - Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 3:53:40 UTC - in response to Message 1875331.  

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Message 1875339 - Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 5:34:20 UTC - in response to Message 1875331.  

I will wait it out, the insane bubble can't last for long.

I'll give 12-36 months.
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Message 1875434 - Posted: 28 Jun 2017, 2:19:09 UTC - in response to Message 1875339.  
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My guess is less than 12, esp if they come out with more affordable mining cards. If ppl buy them in quantity, the difficulty will be pushed up that much faster, and people will start dropping out as they realize that their returns might not even be covering their electric bill.

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Message 1876193 - Posted: 1 Jul 2017, 13:45:51 UTC

Well, got a surprise when I arrived home yesterday, I had a nice little package from EVGA sitting on my stoop, but I'm not sure how I am going to proceed. Either I am going to slide the in next to the other pair of 1060s I have currently running, or possibly just find another board and toss them in there. I think I might have one lying around, but have to decide which way to go though before I start looking.

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Message 1876198 - Posted: 1 Jul 2017, 13:54:44 UTC - in response to Message 1876193.  

From the last picture I seen, I thought all your boards were lying around :))
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Message 1876462 - Posted: 2 Jul 2017, 17:00:41 UTC - in response to Message 1876198.  

LOL yeah, that's they way I roll with most of them, for the most part it works out pretty well, but need to spend some time getting them a little better organized. One of these days...

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Message 1876761 - Posted: 4 Jul 2017, 10:42:13 UTC - in response to Message 1876193.  

Well, got a surprise when I arrived home yesterday, I had a nice little package from EVGA sitting on my stoop, but I'm not sure how I am going to proceed.


Is this one of those new Mining Cards?

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Message 1876818 - Posted: 5 Jul 2017, 2:49:57 UTC - in response to Message 1876761.  

Nope, not sure when those are going to be released and available for purchase, I got the EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 FTW2 GAMING, 06G-P4-6768-KR, 6GB GDDR5, iCX - 9 Thermal Sensors & LED G/P/M, the top end of the 1060 food chain.

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Message 1876823 - Posted: 5 Jul 2017, 3:30:35 UTC - in response to Message 1876818.  
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the top end of the 1060 food chain.


And is listed for over $300USD on that link.

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Message 1876827 - Posted: 5 Jul 2017, 6:23:23 UTC - in response to Message 1876818.  
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Nope, not sure when those are going to be released and available for purchase, I got the EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 FTW2 GAMING, 06G-P4-6768-KR, 6GB GDDR5, iCX - 9 Thermal Sensors & LED G/P/M, the top end of the 1060 food chain.
I'm curious Al, Why wouldn't you go for a single 1080 rather than 2 1060s? After all, it takes up less room, cheaper, more work(debateable likely), less CPU resources.

EDIT: I found a new picture of Al's computers :D
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Message 1876849 - Posted: 5 Jul 2017, 12:41:25 UTC - in response to Message 1876827.  

Ah hahaha! That made my morning, thanks for that! lol And no, it isn't _quite_ that bad... :-p

Pretty much for testing purposes and to satisfy my curiosity, to be honest. The lowest priced 1070 is around (in normal times, not this crazy period we're in now with the mining boom going on) $100 more, and I really wondered what the top end 1060 would produce in real world crunching, as well as electrical usage. Once I get the system put together, I am going to toss a Kill-a-Watt on that rig, and monitor it's energy consumption as well as it's RAC, to get an idea where it falls on the cost/perf continuum. Not sure what system I'll put them into yet, that's yet to be determined.

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Message 1876856 - Posted: 5 Jul 2017, 13:47:50 UTC

Well, personally I hope the mining bit falls on it's arse. Sooner rather than later. Creating value from nothing just by running a computer program seems to me to be kinda like a pyramid scheme. A few early adopters are gonna make a killing, and everybody else eventually loses.
The way I understand it, the more of a crypto currency is generated, the less the value of it becomes. I mean, if anybody can generate value at will, it is really no longer worth as much. And, as is happening with some crypto currencies, when the difficulty of creating it is increased to try to shore up it's value, the cost of the hardware and electricity to create it goes up as well. Eventually the bottom drops out and things crash. And some folks are gonna be left with a lot GPUs that have suddenly lost their purpose in life.................
At least that is from what I understand. I could be wrong. But if my theory holds true, there will at some point be a glut of both new and slightly used GPUs on the market.

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Message 1876973 - Posted: 5 Jul 2017, 21:37:19 UTC - in response to Message 1876856.  

That is kind of what I am expecting, and probably sooner rather than later, unless someone else comes out with the latest and greatest ASIC resistant currency. That is the only thing driving this, that it is optimized for GPU mining. If people here are considering upgrading their rigs and can have a little patience, I bet there will be a glut of fairly highish end cards (esp if upgrading from pre 900 series cards) available before Christmas, if not sooner. Just depends how crazy ppl get, how many jump on the bandwagon, and how quickly the level of difficulty raises to make it not cost effective to mine with those cards. Of course, if a new currency comes out that works with vid cards only, all bets are off...

As for the mining cards, I think that the point of them was that they are going to be more cost effective than regular GPU's, and the goal was to offer them for a little less than consumer cards, as they have less components on them, though better cooling systems designed for 24x7 operation. Huh, kind of like we do currently.. ;-) It will be interesting when the first person here acquires one and starts crunching with it. And again, if those things sell like hotcakes, and then the difficulty ratchets up and they become marginally effective, and assuming that they work well for us, we might be in for a banner next 6-9 months of GPU upgrading here around the SETI world. :-D

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Message 1876979 - Posted: 5 Jul 2017, 22:03:45 UTC - in response to Message 1876973.  

This would be a good thread for somebody to post in if they see the GPU market really come around.
Would be great to see some bargains for upgrades.

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Message 1876984 - Posted: 5 Jul 2017, 22:21:24 UTC

If you have the time to watch Steve's usual long-winded, but very thorough explaining videos over on YT channel Gamers Nexus, you can hear what the AIB GPU and power supply companies fear about the latest GPU mining phenomenon. They remember getting burned back in 2014. Could provide a really good source for cheap, worn out GPUs over on Ebay in the future when the cryptocurrency eventually falls.
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Message 1876991 - Posted: 5 Jul 2017, 22:40:47 UTC - in response to Message 1876984.  

I would throw this one caveat in.

We have very optimized applications here. They have reduced the stress placed on both the CPU and GPUs. Other projects aren't as lucky.

We might find that they work fine for our needs but will be lacking for other projects, say like Einstein or GPUGrid. Of course, this is speculation on my part but just a quick review of some specks on those cards leads me to these thoughts.
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