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Richard Haselgrove ![]() Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14686 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 ![]() ![]() |
At this stage in the proceedings, that feels like knife crime - it's like blaming the pilots for the 737 Max crashes. The LFB were faced - in the middle of the night - with a building that was burning in a totally unexpected way, contrary to all design standards and all their training. How many of us would have come up smelling of roses under those circumstances? The current online BBC report says The BBC has seen sections of the report ahead of Wednesday's publication.BBC broadcast says that they've seen the conclusions. Let's see how Moore-Bick has covered the remaining design issues, unchanged on the night: the single narrow staircase required for both fire-fighting access and evacuation. The full version of this stage 1 report (into events on the night only) isn't published until tomorrow. And the really important one - into how we got into this sorry mess in the first place - isn't due for another couple of years. Let's hope he's just practising his knife skills, ready to use them on the politicians and builders next time. |
Richard Haselgrove ![]() Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14686 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 ![]() ![]() |
Looking through the newspaper front pages, only the Torygraph even mentions the Grenfell report. And it, like here, concentrates on blaming the poor bloody infantry who had to clear up the consequences. That feels like diverting the blame from their friends who caused the catastrophe. |
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with a building that was burning in a totally unexpected way And that is the issue. Expecting a specific fire and only training for that specific fire. |
Sirius B ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24922 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 ![]() |
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W-K 666 ![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19481 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 ![]() ![]() |
Not directly connected to Grenfell, but there have been many fires caused by electrical kitchen appliances in tower blocks. Whirlpool 'silenced customers' amid tumble dryer fire scare |
Sirius B ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24922 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 ![]() |
Have just finished reading the report. What stands out for me is 2.16 of the executive summary. Compliance with the Building Regulations |
W-K 666 ![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19481 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 ![]() ![]() |
Bolton flats blaze: Students 'confused as alarms go off daily' A row has broken out over the reliability of fire alarms after a blaze forced the evacuation of hundreds of students. ![]() |
Sirius B ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24922 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 ![]() |
The fire... really did spread very quickly and that was evident to see on the footage that's on social media.So what made it spread so fast? This is not how any building should react to a fire in the 21st century, let alone a building in which people live," he said.Good luck with that! Les Skarratts, of the FBU in the north-west, said there would be "hard lessons to learn as the circumstances become clearer in the coming days".Hmm, where have we heard that before? |
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