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Message 1944964 - Posted: 17 Jul 2018, 22:10:13 UTC

Not looking good for RBK&C or the government.

A "stay put" policy is based on the theory that buildings can be designed to prevent fire spreading, so a blaze in one flat should not be able to spread to another.
But expert reports submitted to the inquiry suggest that, since 1974, major changes to Grenfell Tower destroyed that protection.
TV images influenced policy change
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Message 1947035 - Posted: 30 Jul 2018, 20:49:17 UTC

He said being told it was too dangerous to commit rescue crews above the 10th floor "was difficult for me to hear and I expressed my dissatisfaction".
They didn't have those problems in Dubai
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Message 1947252 - Posted: 1 Aug 2018, 13:51:47 UTC

This inquiry is bringing a lot of issues to light.

Fire doors only 50% effective
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Message 1947294 - Posted: 1 Aug 2018, 16:54:59 UTC - in response to Message 1947252.  

This inquiry is bringing a lot of issues to light.

Fire doors only 50% effective

Profit, profit, profit or naked greed and the fiduciary duty?
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Message 1947299 - Posted: 1 Aug 2018, 17:20:43 UTC - in response to Message 1947294.  

Sadly, there is no other reasonable explanation. :-(
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Message 1951404 - Posted: 22 Aug 2018, 20:52:04 UTC

Hmm, they keep permanent records of Births, Deaths & Marriages. Also of every contribution an individual makes towards their pension, but can't keep records of other important documents.
The WRS was scrapped in 2011 and families have said it is impossible to obtain copies of the certificates as the records are no longer kept by the government.
This is not the 1st instance of that this year. Doesn't bode well for the future. Just wondering about the "official" documentation of the council, government & companies involved in Grenfell.

Not much news recently regarding Grenfell, but at least the inquiry itself has its own website.

Grenfell inquiry home page
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Message 1952964 - Posted: 30 Aug 2018, 23:10:13 UTC

WTF is wrong with some people?

Unbelievable!
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Message 1952969 - Posted: 31 Aug 2018, 0:37:39 UTC - in response to Message 1952964.  

WTF is wrong with some people?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40JmEj0_aVM
Some folks are born silver spoon in hand, Lord don't they help themselves!
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Message 1957614 - Posted: 28 Sep 2018, 11:59:23 UTC

Grenfell fraud council finance boss jailed for five-and-a-half years

Hard to object to that - or even feel any sympathy.
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Message 1962504 - Posted: 30 Oct 2018, 3:32:51 UTC

How can anyone say they never knew?

Grenfell Tower: The fires that foretold the tragedy
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Message 1962510 - Posted: 30 Oct 2018, 4:05:59 UTC - in response to Message 1962504.  

Why are you surprised?
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Message 1962515 - Posted: 30 Oct 2018, 4:32:04 UTC - in response to Message 1962510.  

Why are you surprised?

Good question.
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Message 1962520 - Posted: 30 Oct 2018, 4:50:34 UTC - in response to Message 1962510.  

Why are you surprised?

My only surprise that there were so many similar incidents in the UK alone and that no one thought to change the regulations.
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Message 1962528 - Posted: 30 Oct 2018, 5:20:45 UTC - in response to Message 1962520.  

Why are you surprised?

My only surprise that there were so many similar incidents in the UK alone and that no one thought to change the regulations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andraus_Building

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joelma_Building

The Summerland fire is the same era.

US Building codes were changed. Some years later retrofit was required.
Of course in the USA, it isn't the council that owns the buildings so there isn't a profit motive to not update the building codes.
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Message 1962885 - Posted: 1 Nov 2018, 21:45:09 UTC - in response to Message 1962504.  

How can anyone say they never knew?

Grenfell Tower: The fires that foretold the tragedy
Just finished watching the documentary (same title as the quoted report). It is available on the BBC iPlayer for the next 28 days.

It does not make pleasant viewing. It is more than regulations that need changing/improving but the instant dismissal of anyone in authority that assumes that we are there to serve them. They are there to serve us!
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Message 1967754 - Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 17:39:50 UTC

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Message 1969822 - Posted: 10 Dec 2018, 21:34:31 UTC

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Message 1970008 - Posted: 12 Dec 2018, 15:50:08 UTC

No evacuation policy for high rise buildings

Well it is nigh on impossible to evacuate a 24 storey "aesthetically pleasing & energy efficient" crematorium in 10 minutes.
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