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Message 1868887 - Posted: 23 May 2017, 0:19:04 UTC
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UK's turn again?

At least 19 dead, dozens injured after reports of blast at Ariana Grande concert in Manchester

Edit: As if it wasn't obvious, it is suspected as an act of terrorism.
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Message 1868891 - Posted: 23 May 2017, 0:34:02 UTC - in response to Message 1868887.  
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UK's turn again?
At least 19 dead, dozens injured after reports of blast at Ariana Grande concert in Manchester
Edit: As if it wasn't obvious, it is suspected as an act of terrorism.

Oh dear.
Why do terrorists always chose to kill innocent people having a good time?
Nineteen people have been killed and about 50 injured in a blast at Manchester Arena, police have said.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-manchester-40007886
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Message 1868892 - Posted: 23 May 2017, 0:38:25 UTC - in response to Message 1868891.  
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Why do terrorists always chose to kill innocent people having a good time?


This is precisely the point. ISIS/Daesh at least bans just about all forms of entertainment: music, dancing, sports in addition to the usual gambling and alcohol. A significant number of people who have lived in and escaped areas controlled by them indicate they just sat at home all the time when not working, buying food or going to compulsory prayers; everything else was forbidden (and it's too easy to accidentally break the laws.)
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Message 1868893 - Posted: 23 May 2017, 0:42:15 UTC - in response to Message 1868891.  

Why do terrorists always chose to kill innocent people having a good time?

Because that creates the most terror, duh.
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Message 1868915 - Posted: 23 May 2017, 5:02:55 UTC - in response to Message 1868893.  

Why do terrorists always chose to kill innocent people having a good time?

Because that creates the most terror, duh.

The correct question is why do suicides kill others? Or, why do humans glorify the ultimate self sacrifice?

As to where or a good time, if you are going to suicide and believe your glory is taking as many others as you can with you, where do you go? Do you go to a place where people are having a bad time? Does such a place draw a crowd? So you end up where the crowd is, the place where a good time is offered.

Heard a comment at the restaurant tonight from someone who was just mad and full of hate and blind rage*. He said it would stop when we taught them a lesson. I didn't get a chance to reply as others in his group arrived. But what are you going to do to them? Is it worse that what their God will do to them for eternity if they don't do their God's bidding and kill? Remember they are already so afraid of their God they are willing to suicide. What are you going to do that could "teach them a lesson?"

*we have had conversations on other evenings so I know where he stands.
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Message 1868918 - Posted: 23 May 2017, 5:30:38 UTC - in response to Message 1868915.  
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Why do terrorists always chose to kill innocent people having a good time?

Because that creates the most terror, duh.

The correct question is why do suicides kill others? Or, why do humans glorify the ultimate self sacrifice?

As to where or a good time, if you are going to suicide and believe your glory is taking as many others as you can with you, where do you go? Do you go to a place where people are having a bad time? Does such a place draw a crowd? So you end up where the crowd is, the place where a good time is offered.

Heard a comment at the restaurant tonight from someone who was just mad and full of hate and blind rage*. He said it would stop when we taught them a lesson. I didn't get a chance to reply as others in his group arrived. But what are you going to do to them? Is it worse that what their God will do to them for eternity if they don't do their God's bidding and kill? Remember they are already so afraid of their God they are willing to suicide. What are you going to do that could "teach them a lesson?"

*we have had conversations on other evenings so I know where he stands.

Luckily I live in a country where suicide killers only manage to kill them self.
So far that is.

Manchester update.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-manchester-40007886
Greater Manchester metro mayor Andy Burnham said: "My heart goes out to families who have lost loved ones, my admiration to our brave emergency services. A terrible night for our great city."
I guess many are United in this tragedy:(
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Message 1868949 - Posted: 23 May 2017, 23:17:22 UTC

England again:(

Pray for Manchester and Mancunians.
We are all United in this.


Tony Walsh read his poem "This is the place" at the memorial ceremony held on Tuesday evening to commemorate the victims of the attack ..

In the north-west of England. It’s ace, it’s the best
And the songs that we sing from the stands, from our bands
Set the whole planet shaking.
Our inventions are legends. There’s nowt we can’t make, and so we make brilliant music
We make brilliant bands
We make goals that make souls leap from seats in the stands
And we make things from steel
And we make things from cotton
And we make people laugh, take the mick summat rotten
And we make you at home
And we make you feel welcome and we make summat happen
And we can’t seem to help it
And if you’re looking from history, then yeah we’ve a wealth
But the Manchester way is to make it yourself.
And make us a record, a new number one
And make us a brew while you’re up, love, go on
And make us feel proud that you’re winning the league
And make us sing louder and make us believe that this is the place that has helped shape the world
And this is the place where a Manchester girl named Emmeline Pankhurst from the streets of Moss Side led a suffragette city with sisterhood pride
And this is the place with appliance of science, we’re on it, atomic, we struck with defiance, and in the face of a challenge, we always stand tall, Mancunians, in union, delivered it all
Such as housing and libraries and health, education and unions and co-ops and first railway stations
So we’re sorry, bear with us, we invented commuters. But we hope you forgive us, we invented computers.
And this is the place Henry Rice strolled with rolls, and we’ve rocked and we’ve rolled with our own northern soul
And so this is the place to do business then dance, where go-getters and goal-setters know they’ve a chance
And this is the place where we first played as kids. And me mum, lived and died here, she loved it, she did.
And this is the place where our folks came to work, where they struggled in puddles, they hurt in the dirt and they built us a city, they built us these towns and they coughed on the cobbles to the deafening sound to the steaming machines and the screaming of slaves, they were scheming for greatness, they dreamed to their graves.
And they left us a spirit. They left us a vibe. That Mancunian way to survive and to thrive and to work and to build, to connect, and create and Greater Manchester’s greatness is keeping it great.
And so this is the place now with kids of our own. Some are born here, some drawn here, but they all call it home.
And they’ve covered the cobbles, but they’ll never defeat, all the dreamers and schemers who still teem through these streets.
Because this is a place that has been through some hard times: oppressions, recessions, depressions, and dark times.
But we keep fighting back with Greater Manchester spirit. Northern grit, Northern wit, and Greater Manchester’s lyrics.
And these hard times again, in these streets of our city, but we won’t take defeat and we don’t want your pity.
Because this is a place where we stand strong together, with a smile on our face, greater Manchester forever.
And we’ve got this place where a team with a dream can get funding and something to help with a scheme.
Because this is a place that understands your grand plans. We don’t do “no can do” we just stress “yes we can”
Forever Manchester’s a charity for people round here, you can fundraise, donate, you can be a volunteer. You can live local, give local, we can honestly say, we do charity different, that Mancunian way.
And we fund local kids, and we fund local teams. We support local dreamers to work for their dreams. We support local groups and the great work they do. So can you help us. help local people like you?
Because this is the place in our hearts, in our homes, because this is the place that’s a part of our bones.
Because Greater Manchester gives us such strength from the fact that this is the place, we should give something back.
Always remember, never forget, forever Manchester.
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Message 1868956 - Posted: 23 May 2017, 23:28:26 UTC - in response to Message 1868915.  

Why do terrorists always chose to kill innocent people having a good time?

Because that creates the most terror, duh.

The correct question is why do suicides kill others? Or, why do humans glorify the ultimate self sacrifice?

As to where or a good time, if you are going to suicide and believe your glory is taking as many others as you can with you, where do you go? Do you go to a place where people are having a bad time? Does such a place draw a crowd? So you end up where the crowd is, the place where a good time is offered.

Heard a comment at the restaurant tonight from someone who was just mad and full of hate and blind rage*. He said it would stop when we taught them a lesson. I didn't get a chance to reply as others in his group arrived. But what are you going to do to them? Is it worse that what their God will do to them for eternity if they don't do their God's bidding and kill? Remember they are already so afraid of their God they are willing to suicide. What are you going to do that could "teach them a lesson?"

*we have had conversations on other evenings so I know where he stands.

How Human Beings, their Cultures, their Ideology, their Religions, their (fill-in the rest) respond when scared and angry. Is just what they do.

Be it purposefully burning alive babies in their cribs. As 'Civilized' British and Americans did. Or... Fill-in what other scared and angry people throughout history have done.

Sorry... The same, at some point in the future, will be 'The Response'.
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Message 1868993 - Posted: 24 May 2017, 2:06:24 UTC

Salman Abedi is pointed out by the police as the one who performed the suspected terrorist attack in Manchester.

His parents come from Libya - where they are said to have moved from the dictator Muammar Gaddafi.
Image from the Manchester police of the suspected suicide bomber's home. In the hand of the detective, a book on chemicals.
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Message 1869060 - Posted: 24 May 2017, 10:56:29 UTC - in response to Message 1868993.  

Salman Abedi is pointed out by the police as the one who performed the suspected terrorist attack in Manchester.

His parents come from Libya - where they are said to have moved from the dictator Muammar Gaddafi.
Image from the Manchester police of the suspected suicide bomber's home. In the hand of the detective, a book on chemicals.

When they kill your innocent people with Chemical or Radiological Weapons. When they kill a hundred Kindergarten Children. When they...

Well... You get the idea. And understand what 'The Response' will be.
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Message 1869067 - Posted: 24 May 2017, 11:33:42 UTC - in response to Message 1869060.  

When they kill your innocent people with Chemical or Radiological Weapons. When they kill a hundred Kindergarten Children. When they...

Well... You get the idea. And understand what 'The Response' will be.

Colour me dumb. What in your opinion will that response be?
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Message 1869068 - Posted: 24 May 2017, 11:45:02 UTC
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Terror threat levels in Britain have been raised to the highest possible level, and investigators are increasingly convinced that the suspected terrorist did not act alone. Data claims that he has recently traveled to Syria. At the same time there are raids in the Manchester area.
On Wednesday morning three people were arrested as part of the investigation of Monday's attack on the Manchester concert venue. They should have been arrested in connection with raids in the southern parts of the city, but the data are still scarce.

@Clyde Responding to terrorists?
They even kill them self so they can become "martyrs".

Anyway.
"Operation Temperer", has never been introduced before. It is expected to allow up to 5,000 soldiers on the streets.
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Message 1869071 - Posted: 24 May 2017, 12:11:48 UTC - in response to Message 1869067.  

When they kill your innocent people with Chemical or Radiological Weapons. When they kill a hundred Kindergarten Children. When they...

Well... You get the idea. And understand what 'The Response' will be.

Colour me dumb. What in your opinion will that response be?

As all scared and angry people in history. Including those 'Civilized' people who are still alive...

Fill-in whatever peoples always do.

What we will do to inflict this upon these Evil Murderers, and unfortunately innocents. Is the only question. Not 'The Response'.

Sorry... 'Civilized' Human Beings, their Cultures, and their Beliefs Systems. Just are, what they are.

BTW: Just ask any mother, who believes here young children are in danger because of these maniacs. What should be 'The Response' to save the lives of her children.

BTW 2: Understanding, is not the same as excusing.
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Message 1869076 - Posted: 24 May 2017, 12:57:59 UTC - in response to Message 1869071.  

Quite agree that understanding is not excusing.

Stop ducking the question & turning it around.

I asked you what will be the response in your opinion.

If you can't or won't give your opinion, stop asking questions.
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Message 1869078 - Posted: 24 May 2017, 13:13:13 UTC

I believe this should have it's own thread.

I will move the relevant posts to here
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Message 1869080 - Posted: 24 May 2017, 13:31:19 UTC

Liverpool comes together to remember Manchester bombing victims.
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/manchester-arena-ariana-grande-terror-13075797
Both my sister and nephew Matthew lives in Liverpool.
Only about 30 kilometers from Manchester.
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Message 1869087 - Posted: 24 May 2017, 14:02:47 UTC

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Message 1869092 - Posted: 24 May 2017, 14:31:53 UTC
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One of the victims of the attack in Manchester was a police officer. It stated the police at a press conference on Wednesday afternoon.

Hopkins also says the police carried out a controlled blast in central Manchester in connection with a raid of an address. The explosion was carried out for the purpose of entering the address.
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Message 1869100 - Posted: 24 May 2017, 15:11:22 UTC - in response to Message 1869080.  
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Liverpool comes together to remember Manchester bombing victims.
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/manchester-arena-ariana-grande-terror-13075797
Both my sister and nephew Matthew lives in Liverpool.
Only about 30 kilometers from Manchester.

Hoping, for the sake of Our Humanity. The Maniac Islamist Terrorists, don't escalate Their Evil.
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