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Message 1890104 - Posted: 16 Sep 2017, 2:18:46 UTC
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Now I have a conundrum, when I'm ready to buy a rim for the full size spare tire, which should I get?

A Dorman steel 15x5.5" rim, 4x100 bolt pattern, 45mm offset, $38.91 delivered.


or

A Ford aluminum 15x5.5" rim(stock), 4x100 bolt pattern, 45mm offset, no cap, $60.00 delivered. Cap is $12.44 extra, from a different seller.

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Message 1890105 - Posted: 16 Sep 2017, 2:39:14 UTC - in response to Message 1890104.  

Now I have a conundrum, when I'm ready to buy a rim for the full size spare tire, which should I get?

It's a spare, a $40 steel rim is all that's needed.
No brainer.
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Message 1890106 - Posted: 16 Sep 2017, 2:48:32 UTC - in response to Message 1890105.  

Now I have a conundrum, when I'm ready to buy a rim for the full size spare tire, which should I get?

It's a spare, a $40 steel rim is all that's needed.
No brainer.

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Message 1890121 - Posted: 16 Sep 2017, 4:12:52 UTC - in response to Message 1890105.  

Now I have a conundrum, when I'm ready to buy a rim for the full size spare tire, which should I get?

It's a spare, a $40 steel rim is all that's needed.
No brainer.

Ok.
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Message 1890123 - Posted: 16 Sep 2017, 4:19:43 UTC

Watch craigslist. When I sold my last jeep I had to sell my spare set of wheels. I had a set of road tires and a set of off road tires. I sold the offroad tires and wheels for $60.
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Message 1890127 - Posted: 16 Sep 2017, 6:14:10 UTC - in response to Message 1890123.  
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Watch craigslist. When I sold my last jeep I had to sell my spare set of wheels. I had a set of road tires and a set of off road tires. I sold the offroad tires and wheels for $60.

Well the rim has to have a 45mm offset, and it's $38.91 delivered to My door or PO Box, brand new too, besides I deal with ebay, since I know I'm protected.

And I live a long ways from anywhere that would have what I want on craigslist, a long ways, like over 100 miles...
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Message 1890130 - Posted: 16 Sep 2017, 6:33:04 UTC

Ok since I had enough in Paypal Credit, I bought the steel rim, now I wait.
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Message 1890136 - Posted: 16 Sep 2017, 7:29:46 UTC

Over the years I've bought too many second hand rims that just weren't worth a dime, so I think you've done the right thing and "gone new", with the added bonus of being delivered to your door which means no worries about having to chase around to collect from some obscure corner of the countryside only to discover its not the wheel you thought it was...
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Message 1890142 - Posted: 16 Sep 2017, 8:20:45 UTC - in response to Message 1890136.  

Over the years I've bought too many second hand rims that just weren't worth a dime, so I think you've done the right thing and "gone new", with the added bonus of being delivered to your door which means no worries about having to chase around to collect from some obscure corner of the countryside only to discover its not the wheel you thought it was...

Well I found out in an email, that the rim is supposedly for a 2001 Hyundai Elantra which uses the same front 257mm brake discs, 4x100 bolt pattern, uses a 15"x5.5" rim, and from what I've read the same 45mm offset that My 1999 Ford Escort zx2 sport Hot Coupe has.

So I emailed Carid about this, but then My car does use the same running gear as a 1990-1998 Mazda Protege/323, so a Hyundai would not surprise Me as being another Mazda derived car, they'd not put the type of car this was for in the Ad, and yet said the Dorman rims are specific, some how I don't buy that.

Yeah, some second hand items I'd take a chance with, but driving 100 miles I reserve just for visiting My relatives, I'd like to move closer, but so far all the loans/grants I've seen don't involve moving the hunk of junk that I live in, and a personal loan is out, since I don't think I have enough income for an unsecured loan.
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Message 1890152 - Posted: 16 Sep 2017, 11:46:02 UTC

Well when i had a Escort XR3i i had 205/55 R15 Tyres.


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Message 1890170 - Posted: 16 Sep 2017, 14:20:52 UTC - in response to Message 1890148.  

These are the specs for the wheels and tyres on a 1999 Ford Escort 2-Door Coupe ZX2 "Hot" Specs.

Wheels

Rear Wheel Size (in) 14 x 5.5
Rear Wheel Material Steel

Spare Wheel Size (in) 14 x 4
Spare Wheel Material Steel

Front Wheel Size (in) 14 x 5.5
Front Wheel Material Steel

Tyres

Rear Tire Size P185/65R14
Front Tire Size P185/65R14
Spare Tire Size T115/70D14

Tyre specs

185/60x15 what My car is equipped with as part of the Hot Coupe 23.7"
Has it occurred to you Vic that your car had the wrong wheels fitted to it when you bought it, even if the tyres do fit the larger rims properly. Who did you buy this car from?

A Dorman steel 15x5.5" rim, 4x100 bolt pattern, 45mm offset, $38.91 delivered.
A Ford aluminum 15x5.5" rim(stock), 4x100 bolt pattern, 45mm offset, no cap, $60.00 delivered.


Why were you considering mixing an aluminium rim with steel ones?

The 15x5.5" tires/rims are optional, as is the cruise control on My model, the 15x5.5" tires/rims came with the car when I bought the car from Carmax.
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Message 1890186 - Posted: 16 Sep 2017, 15:30:06 UTC - in response to Message 1890183.  

Well I am sure you know better than me being the owner of the car. But from what I can see it was the 2000 version car had the optional S/R packages with 15-inch wheels with P205/55Z15 tyres or 14-inch chrome five-spoke wheels.

http://teamzx2.com/threads/354-Zx2-Specs

It seems that the bodywork will accept up to 15" wheels, but whether the larger wheels on your 1998 version were an approved Ford option I am not sure. If they were then all well and good.

I have a 1999, on the rear of the car, the car is labeled SPORT by the factory, the s/r has 143hp, the ordinary zx2 has 100hp, the Sport is at 130hp, except for the seat frames being made of pot metal, the car is ok, a little cramped, but ok. The car also has fog lights.
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Message 1890188 - Posted: 16 Sep 2017, 15:31:56 UTC - in response to Message 1890155.  

Yes, Chris, the insurance companies drive me crazy with some of their attitudes.....when it suits them. For example, apart from the Legend, I have a Rover 216 Coupe (first registered to a very prestigious address in London - SW1A 1AA). Quite a nice little car; nippy, fairly good on fuel and being Honda-powered, reliable and they look great. The standard tyre size is 185/55/VR15. The car is apparently capable of 120 mph, yet, the tyres are rated to 150 mph, when an H rated tyre would've been perfectly adequate. I can guarantee that anyone who runs over a sheet of paper in one, at 70 mph, will end up with their spine parting company from the rest of their body and either striking a satellite, or it will go in the opposite direction, saving huge amounts of money in exploration costs for oil companies and geo-thermal start-ups! I've heard of some owners putting on '65s' with a reduced width, just to save their back. Yet, to appease the insurance companies, I have to use the V rated tyre, when I can't even imagine, what it would be like at even 80 mph - indeed, when an older one I had, hit a pot-hole at 25 mph, a mounting for the rear anti-roll bar was torn off. Of course, one can tell insurers about tyre changes that are non-standard, but you'd think a little 'common sense' and latitude would prevail.
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Message 1890197 - Posted: 16 Sep 2017, 16:29:43 UTC

H rated is what My car's tires were equipped with as stock, technically the tires should be T rated since 112mph is closer to the car's top speed of 105mph, though with a different cpu that 105 might not be the highest speed anymore, and no I'd rather not go 105 in this car, it was a functionality test only. Now if I were in a 2011-2014 Mustang V6 or GT that would be different.

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2011-2014 305hp/31mpg hwy

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2011-2012 412hp/25mpg hwy
2013-2014 420hp/25mpg hwy
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Message 1890202 - Posted: 16 Sep 2017, 16:42:17 UTC

Car manufacturers are crazy when it comes to the speed rating for tyres.
Take my current Discovery, the factory installed speed limiter is set to 115 mph, but LR say I must fit "V" speed rated tyres, which are rated for ~150mph.
Granted the load rating of 111 is sensible on a vehicle that empty scales at 2.7tonnes.
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Message 1890203 - Posted: 16 Sep 2017, 16:47:47 UTC
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My old '72 Buick Electra with 455cid weighed about 4500lbs.
Speedo went to 120.....and it would come to within a few mph of that, 4bbls wide open and roaring.
A roaring cloud, with thunder under the hood.
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Message 1890207 - Posted: 16 Sep 2017, 17:02:47 UTC - in response to Message 1890203.  

My old '72 Buick Electra with 455cid weighed about 4500lbs.
Speedo went to 120.....and it would come to within a few mph of that, 4bbls wide open and roaring.
A roaring cloud, with thunder under the hood.


A 2006 Mustang GT w/300hp can do 120mph easily, in fact I got one to 135mph, I didn't go any faster, why? Not enough road, so I had to stop, the road I was on at the time is fairly straight, like an arrow. Like the one below. Though I'd never own a 2005-2006 ever again, these models on cold freezing nights would eat the battery, it was later fixed in the 2007 and newer Mustangs, I was told this by the dealer who since was sold to someone else. It was the master power relay doing the deed, the 2006 Mustang GT got 23mpg, the V6 19mpg.

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Message 1890210 - Posted: 16 Sep 2017, 17:14:51 UTC - in response to Message 1890207.  

The '72 Electra has a hp/weight ratio of about .048 hp/lb.
The '06 GT has a hp/weight ratio of about .089 hp/lb.
Not to mention aerodynamics....LOL.
So it goes to figure that the GT would have a much higher top end.

What made those big old Buick boat anchors so much fun to drive was that the 455 had very strong stump pulling torque at the bottom end. Crack those 4bbls open and they would launch well enough to surprise some folks.
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Message 1890211 - Posted: 16 Sep 2017, 17:24:01 UTC - in response to Message 1890210.  
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The '72 Electra has a hp/weight ratio of about .048 hp/lb.
The '06 GT has a hp/weight ratio of about .089 hp/lb.
Not to mention aerodynamics....LOL.
So it goes to figure that the GT would have a much higher top end.

What made those big old Buick boat anchors so much fun to drive was that the 455 had very strong stump pulling torque at the bottom end. Crack those 4bbls open and they would launch well enough to surprise some folks.

The V6/GT also had a 6 speed automatic, in 2018 the V6 was dropped(since the I4 has identical hp and better mpg), and a 10 speed automatic was added(developed jointly with GM), the 2018 GT also has 455hp.
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Message 1890214 - Posted: 16 Sep 2017, 17:29:34 UTC

And for comparison, by 1977, the Electra was a trimmer, fitter beast.
My '77 had the 403 engine (from Olds division, as the 455 had been retired the year before).
It had 185hp and now weighed 3900lbs..
Which gave it a hp/weight ratio of about .047hp/lb..
Which is almost the same as the bigger boats that preceded it.
What hurt was increasing emission regulations, requiring lower compression, among other things. And that was making it increasingly difficult to squeeze hp out of the standard v8s with the technology they were using at the time.
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