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Message 1888985 - Posted: 10 Sep 2017, 7:10:08 UTC

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Message 1888998 - Posted: 10 Sep 2017, 8:40:08 UTC

I used a conversation calculator for miles to kilometers. I could have posted 2.5 miles equivalent is 4.02336 km. I didn't want to be that sticky with it. I will think about limiting it to two decimal places in the future.

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Message 1889013 - Posted: 10 Sep 2017, 10:52:22 UTC

If a person had 4 US pints then it would equal 3.33 or 3 1/3 pints metric. So metric volumes are "Texas" sized. Because everything is bigger in Texas. Lol.

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Message 1889015 - Posted: 10 Sep 2017, 10:55:44 UTC - in response to Message 1889013.

If a person had 4 US pints then it would equal 3.33 or 3 1/3 pints metric. So metric volumes are "Texas" sized. Because everything is bigger in Texas. Lol.

And if you had 4 US pints you might not be typing very well.
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Message 1889019 - Posted: 10 Sep 2017, 10:59:28 UTC - in response to Message 1889015.

If a person had 4 US pints then it would equal 3.33 or 3 1/3 pints metric. So metric volumes are "Texas" sized. Because everything is bigger in Texas. Lol.

And if you had 4 US pints you might not be typing very well.

So true.

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Message 1889023 - Posted: 10 Sep 2017, 11:30:45 UTC - in response to Message 1889018.

Because everything is bigger in Texas. Lol.
Only the egos :-))) As the saying goes "Big mouth = small willy".

And if you had 4 US pints you might not be typing very well.
And if you had 4 British pints of proper beer, you wouldn't be typing at all!!!

Not a big deal to me.
Once i had 6 and my verb was still O.K.

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Message 1889052 - Posted: 10 Sep 2017, 14:21:10 UTC

If I did what this Mug suggests, I'd be very Irish, instead of just 200yrs ancestry in Ireland.

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Message 1889333 - Posted: 11 Sep 2017, 21:53:47 UTC

Cassini's Saturn Crash 2017: How to Watch Its 'Grand Finale'

On Sept. 15, NASA's Cassini spacecraft will wrap up 20 historic years in space, collecting data as it crashes into Saturnâ€™s atmosphere and burns up like a meteor.

NASA will air a series of webcasts leading up Cassiniâ€™s final suicide plunge, which you will be able to watch here at Space.com
the streaming schedule is linked above.
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Message 1889422 - Posted: 12 Sep 2017, 22:16:58 UTC

I will be the first to announce we are back up.
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Message 1889451 - Posted: 13 Sep 2017, 1:00:16 UTC
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I have Good News and Bad News...

Good News

\$292.00 is the max My gas furnace will cost to get repaired, My sister in law is paying for this, I just have to wait a few days.
I can put a full size Hankook 185/65x14 spare in My car trunk.
I can throw out the T115/70x14 compact spare tire.

Bad News

The new full size Hankook 185/65x14 spare tire and rim will cost \$99.00+16.00 for mounting and balancing, maybe in October I can get this done, sooner if I have any money left over, though I doubt that I will.
The Nankang tires I bought seem to have problems from what I've read, so I will be replacing the 3 I have left.
Hankook 185/60x15 tires are currently \$58.01 each.
The T115/70x14 compact spare tire is not fixable, the tire is off the bead, I asked, so for a bit, I have no spare tire for My car.
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Message 1889455 - Posted: 13 Sep 2017, 2:02:29 UTC - in response to Message 1889451.

I have Good News and Bad News...

Good News

\$292.00 is the max My gas furnace will cost to get repaired, My sister in law is paying for this, I just have to wait a few days.
I can put a full size Hankook 185/65x14 spare in My car trunk.
I can throw out the T115/70x14 compact spare tire.

Bad News

The new full size Hankook 185/65x14 spare tire and rim will cost \$99.00+16.00 for mounting and balancing, maybe in October I can get this done, sooner if I have any money left over, though I doubt that I will.
The Nankang tires I bought seem to have problems from what I've read, so I will be replacing the 3 I have left.
Hankook 185/60x15 tires are currently \$58.01 each.
The T115/70x14 compact spare tire is not fixable, the tire is off the bead, I asked, so for a bit, I have no spare tire for My car.

Another piece of Good News

4. I ordered a Waste King 1/3rd hp garbage disposal from Amazon, it only needs a plumber.
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Message 1889483 - Posted: 13 Sep 2017, 8:26:17 UTC - in response to Message 1889451.
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Be VERY careful about fitting a "normal" tyre onto a space saver rim.
While what you appear to be suggesting sounds good, to use your existing spare wheel and put a "correct sized" tyre on there are some pitfalls.
The space saver rim is almost certainly too narrow for the proposed tyre.
Many space saver rim/tyre combinations do not use standard bead profiles, which means a "standard" tyre won't seat properly.
Some space saver rims were/are manufactured deliberately out of balance and so need massive amounts of balance weights if you use a normal tyre. In most cases where this was the case the tyre was made out of balance to compensate.
The higher profile sidewall of the 14 inch 65% profile tyre will be less stiff than the 15 inch 60% profile tyre, so will not give the same ride & handling characteristics.
In UK and (most of) Europe it is not permitted to mix wheel diameters on the same axle - unless one of the wheels is a manufacture specified and dedicated spare wheel. This could well also be the case in the US.
Indeed you may find it a lot cheaper to buy a correctly sized steel wheel and a fifth tyre the same size as the four "on the road".
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Message 1889493 - Posted: 13 Sep 2017, 9:50:04 UTC

On Vic's car problems, when I was younger and had oldish cars, if I had a problem and needed replacement parts the first place I would go would be the car recycling places.
And having done a very quick search I came across Bells Auto Parts & Wrecking, 8777 San Fernando Rd, Sun Valley, CA 91352 on the first page not that far away.
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Message 1889494 - Posted: 13 Sep 2017, 9:52:23 UTC

Also, on many cars in Europe they are installed as they are lighter than a full-size tyre and so give a better tiny tiddly bit fuel consumption under the very false emissions baseline testing.

I've only used a space saver spare once, and that was twice too often.
Given Vic's spare was off the rim I would hazard a guess that it had never been fitted or checked in all its long life, which shows how often it has been needed, and how often it was checked. I don't quite understand why the tyre place couldn't use one of those quick blast machines they all have to re-seat the tyre, unless of course it had aged so much that the bead and sidewall had broken apart (unless of course they make more money flogging another new tyre instead of re-seating an old one, on the other hand I've never known a tyre fitter not accepting the fiver to re-seat a tyre)
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Message 1889521 - Posted: 13 Sep 2017, 14:29:45 UTC

I'm not mounting a full size tire on a 4 inch wide rim, the flat compact spare tire is going in the trash, a 185/65 14 is too wide for that 4 inch rim, I'm looking at a 5.5 inch wide x 14 inch steel rim, both tire and rim will be new. 5.5 inch is the width of rim that Ford used here in the US on the rims that are not compact. Compact spares are very limited, 50mph max or they deflate, 50mph is a bit too slow on a fwy, whose speed is in excess of 55mph, between Yermo and Barstow the fwy is the direct route, the 2 other routes are longer.
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Message 1889522 - Posted: 13 Sep 2017, 14:33:06 UTC - in response to Message 1889494.
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Also, on many cars in Europe they are installed as they are lighter than a full-size tyre and so give a better tiny tiddly bit fuel consumption under the very false emissions baseline testing.

I've only used a space saver spare once, and that was twice too often.
Given Vic's spare was off the rim I would hazard a guess that it had never been fitted or checked in all its long life, which shows how often it has been needed, and how often it was checked. I don't quite understand why the tyre place couldn't use one of those quick blast machines they all have to re-seat the tyre, unless of course it had aged so much that the bead and sidewall had broken apart (unless of course they make more money flogging another new tyre instead of re-seating an old one, on the other hand I've never known a tyre fitter not accepting the fiver to re-seat a tyre)

The tire was mounted right, and used at least once, though only once by Me, the tread was almost smooth, deflation in a compact spare will happen above 50mph.

The local tire place could not reseat a tire on such a narrow rim, so the compact spare is junk, and is going in the trash.
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Message 1889523 - Posted: 13 Sep 2017, 14:33:52 UTC - in response to Message 1889521.

My head is spinning with all this talk about tires.
The mind is a weird and mysterious place
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Message 1889526 - Posted: 13 Sep 2017, 14:46:57 UTC - in response to Message 1889493.

On Vic's car problems, when I was younger and had oldish cars, if I had a problem and needed replacement parts the first place I would go would be the car recycling places.
And having done a very quick search I came across Bells Auto Parts & Wrecking, 8777 San Fernando Rd, Sun Valley, CA 91352 on the first page not that far away.

For a few parts that is indeed necessary, mainly body parts, and parts that are not made by 3rd party car part makers, most parts are available, and My car has engine, transmission, and running gear in common with the '90-'98 Mazda Protege/323, like giving the car 4 wheel disc brakes as an example.

The car does get 33mpg, which is not bad for an 18yr old hunk of junk.

Depending on the route taken that is between 133.0 miles and 160.3 miles according to bing maps, one way, 131.9 to 159.5 miles on the return trip, if I were to drive there, I can find any junkyard type parts on ebay, saves a lot of driving, not to mention gas money, the car gets 33mpg at best.
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Message 1889540 - Posted: 13 Sep 2017, 16:10:16 UTC

The reason I choose a 14 inch tire for the spare, instead of the 15 inch, is as follows:

185/65x14 22.7 inch outside diameter
185/60x15 23.7 inch outside diameter

I don't know if the trunk can handle a 15" tire, a 14" tire yes, I'll have to take a tape measure out and do some measuring, the advice on FEOA is for a 14" tire, since the 15" is an optional size, standard is 14" in the case of a Ford Escort zx2.
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Message 1889542 - Posted: 13 Sep 2017, 16:37:31 UTC

Vic - if the rolling diameter and width are the same then the spare wheel well will take them. If, as on some cars the well is only deep enough to take the skinny spare then it doesn't matter what the rim diameter is neither the 185/65x14 or the 185/60x15 will fit. Before you splash the cash try one of your existing road wheel and tyre in to make sure.
As for the state of the old, scrap, spare, it sounds as if its suffered from not being kept inflated for some time. Speed isn't the only thing that kills those tyres, age is a big factor. If you've still got the tyre have a look at the date code, which you will find near the "DOT" code , its a four digit number, two for the year and two for the week within that year - I can't remember the order, but if it is something like "98-05" or 12-36" then its easy, but if its like "01-02" its a harder task - you just have to look and and find which order the two parts are in. After about ten years even well stored tyres are starting to get a bit suspect, and stuck in the trunk for years in an area where outside temperatures regularly top 100F must be is to be considered a poor storage environment. Indeed those skinnies should be considered "use once" items they wear so quickly :-(
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