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Message 1871566 - Posted: 7 Jun 2017, 13:30:38 UTC - in response to Message 1871561.  
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How much longer before we can legalized over-the-counter recreational opioids, amphetamines and barbiturates? Although, the problem I see here is we'll begin losing democrat voters through darwinism.

The problem is not between legalization and criminalization.
It is that there is a percentage of the human race. Will always 'drift' towards the use of "opioids, amphetamines and barbiturates". Or whatever the 'Drugs of Choice' are available throughout history.

True. I think I read somewhere that it is about 10% of the human population that are addicted to some form of chemical substances.
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Message 1871567 - Posted: 7 Jun 2017, 13:31:14 UTC - in response to Message 1871558.  
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So, just seeing if I understand:

Legalizing something so that people can do it = Centralized all-powerful government control
Criminalizing something so that people are convicted and put in jail for it = Freedom?

That's some sterling "logic" there, Guy. This sort of thinking may be a side effect of that dangerous brain-damaging, legalized, all-powerful-centralized government-regulated drug called alcohol... you should steer clear of that stuff as if you are using it, it may have the same effect you think cannabis does.
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Message 1871580 - Posted: 7 Jun 2017, 15:13:34 UTC - in response to Message 1871572.  

Guy, as those presently called The Alt Left.
ROTFLMAO
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Message 1871581 - Posted: 7 Jun 2017, 15:19:01 UTC - in response to Message 1871567.  

So, just seeing if I understand:

Legalizing something so that people can do it = Centralized all-powerful government control
Criminalizing something so that people are convicted and put in jail for it = Freedom?

You have it exactly Mr. Kevvy!

Because if it wasn't the ACLU would be good because they fight to legalize things and oppose centralized all-powerful government control.
Criminalizing things and making prison sentences longer panders to corrections officer unions and makes them stronger letting them take control of the government!
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Message 1871594 - Posted: 7 Jun 2017, 16:32:56 UTC
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Ismo Leikola - Finnish/Swedish alcohol selling laws!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trQbxViaHWc
"The White Zone is for loading and unloading only. If you got to load or unload go to the White Zone!" is an announcement than can be heard at the Los Angeles Airport and other airports in the USA as well
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Message 1871746 - Posted: 8 Jun 2017, 13:52:38 UTC

Again, the Gub'ment can't control those who 'choose to use' without control of the source. Grow ur own and there's no control by the feds. 😁

"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>
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Message 1871761 - Posted: 8 Jun 2017, 16:15:18 UTC - in response to Message 1871748.  

Again, the Gub'ment can't control those who 'choose to use' without control of the source. Grow ur own and there's no control by the feds. 😁

If Legalized.

The Massive Federal and State Regulating Authorities, in addition to the IRS, will control all. As they always have.

Try to control maybe.

Ha hah!
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Message 1871764 - Posted: 8 Jun 2017, 17:06:30 UTC - in response to Message 1871761.  

Again, the Gub'ment can't control those who 'choose to use' without control of the source. Grow ur own and there's no control by the feds. 😁

If Legalized.

The Massive Federal and State Regulating Authorities, in addition to the IRS, will control all. As they always have.

Try to control maybe.

Ha hah!

How true
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Message 1871856 - Posted: 9 Jun 2017, 1:43:38 UTC - in response to Message 1871802.  

Again, the Gub'ment can't control those who 'choose to use' without control of the source. Grow ur own and there's no control by the feds. 😁

If Legalized.

The Massive Federal and State Regulating Authorities, in addition to the IRS, will control all. As they always have.

Try to control maybe.

Ha hah!

When they 'attach' all your Bank Accounts....

When they garnish your paycheck...

When they stop all your credit cards...

As one can see. Regulatory Control is...

That is only if you are stupid and get caught. You can't regulate and or control something you can't find. Sorry we are not a police state just yet.
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Message 1871965 - Posted: 9 Jun 2017, 15:47:08 UTC - in response to Message 1871858.  

Consumers will by the 100% Certified, 100% Inspected, et al Product.

Since the consumers do not care about the Mom and Pop. They will be out of business.

Just like they don't buy moonshine whisky.
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Message 1871972 - Posted: 9 Jun 2017, 16:05:52 UTC - in response to Message 1871965.  
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Consumers will by the 100% Certified, 100% Inspected, et al Product.
Since the consumers do not care about the Mom and Pop. They will be out of business.

Just like they don't buy moonshine whisky.

A friend of mine's father was a Police officer.
He made moonshine at his home.
Where?
On top of the Police station:)
Been there once and he gave us that as a meal drink together with some herrings.

How to trade moonshine the Nordic way:):)
Video with English subtitles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrAV4c_4CJo

Skål:)
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Message 1871977 - Posted: 9 Jun 2017, 16:44:11 UTC - in response to Message 1871971.  
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When was the last time you, or anyone else you know. Bought beer from an unregulated person. 'Processing' beer in their backyard?

Clyde, 2 weeks ago I was given several quarts of home brewed beer. It was unregulated, not taxed and quite good.
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Message 1871978 - Posted: 9 Jun 2017, 16:58:55 UTC - in response to Message 1871977.  
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When was the last time you, or anyone else you know. Bought beer from an unregulated person. 'Processing' beer in their backyard?

Clyde, 2 weeks ago I was given several quarts of home brewed beer. It was unregulated, not taxed and quite good.

Even in the most heavily law regulated countries in the world like Sweden and Finland it's OK to make your own wine and beer.
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Message 1871996 - Posted: 9 Jun 2017, 19:00:37 UTC - in response to Message 1871977.  

When was the last time you, or anyone else you know. Bought beer from an unregulated person. 'Processing' beer in their backyard?

Clyde, 2 weeks ago I was given several quarts of home brewed beer. It was unregulated, not taxed and quite good.

One of the Alehouses around here hosts a home brew competition. I guess there are places where it is happening and places where it doesn't.
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Message 1872013 - Posted: 9 Jun 2017, 20:04:10 UTC

Going back from alcohol to marijuana.
Anybody here been to the Netherlands?
Cough, cough, cough...
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Message 1872021 - Posted: 9 Jun 2017, 20:52:11 UTC - in response to Message 1872013.  

Going back from alcohol to marijuana.
Anybody here been to the Netherlands?
Cough, cough, cough...

Several times.

Rijksmuseum is the best and then you add Van Gogh Museum, this is where it is at.

https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en
https://www.vangoghmuseum.nl/en

Coffee Shops are passé.
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Message 1872024 - Posted: 9 Jun 2017, 21:00:56 UTC - in response to Message 1872021.  
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Going back from alcohol to marijuana.
Anybody here been to the Netherlands?
Cough, cough, cough...

Several times.
Rijksmuseum is the best and then you add Van Gogh Museum, this is where it is at.
https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en
https://www.vangoghmuseum.nl/en
Coffee Shops are passé.

I think smoking is forbidden in those places.
Funny.
The Van Gogh Museum has one of the world’s finest collections of French fin-de-siècle prints.

But Henri de Toulouse-Lautrec was a Frenchman.
OK Van Gogh lived Down in France:)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eep1_tiPOVY
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Message 1872283 - Posted: 10 Jun 2017, 18:50:48 UTC

Going back from alcohol to marijuana.
Anybody here been to the Netherlands?
Cough, cough, cough...


Anybody here been to Nederland Colorado??

Cough, Cough, Cough..........not to mention 'Frozen Dead Guy Days'............ " : >

"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>
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Message 1872293 - Posted: 10 Jun 2017, 20:55:42 UTC - in response to Message 1872013.  

Anybody here been to the Netherlands?


I've not been, but I have friends from there who visited the U.S. for the first time a few years ago, and when I told them we'd be going in a coffee shop, their eyes widened and they said they didn't know we had such things. ;~)
The mind is a weird and mysterious place
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Message 1872294 - Posted: 10 Jun 2017, 21:04:57 UTC - in response to Message 1872283.  

Anybody here been to Nederland Colorado??

or Nederland Washington?

https://weedmaps.com/listings/in/seattleking-county
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