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I'm not a smoker or an eater, but I do think marijuana consumption should be a legal option for everyone. This article in The New Yorker talks about the evolution of the pot brownie: http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/04/24/the-martha-stewart-of-marijuana-edibles ![]() |
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I'm not a smoker or an eater, but I do think marijuana consumption should be a legal option for everyone. This article in The New Yorker talks about the evolution of the pot brownie: Marijuana, as Alcohol. May be damaging to the individual user. In addition to killing innocents, if used prior or during driving. That said... The 'criminalization' regarding mere possession and sale, is ridiculous. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --- George Santayana Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. --- Lord Acton |
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Reading today that one of our greater political parties wants to decriminalizate the use of drugs. https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/liberalernas-arbetsgrupp-vill-tillata-eget-bruk-av-narkotika For 29 years it has been forbidden to use drugs in Sweden. Having traces of drugs in the blood can now give up to six months in prison, although the most common punishment is fines. Since it's by far common to drink alcohol, why not? |
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A repost of something I wrote that was less on-topic in its original thread: ____ Yes, the party " of individual liberty'" wants to control the bedroom among other things. The best example I can find of jaw-dropping hypocrisy I can think of is their stance on cannabis. While simultaneously claiming to be the party of liberty, property rights, small government, tax savings, free enterprise and the reduction of crime, the prohibition of marijuana has jailed hundreds of thousands if not millions of citizens sometimes after no-knock raids on their private residences as if they were violent career criminals, deprived them of property through probably unconstitutional policies such as civil forfeiture, employed thousands of very expensive agents to arrest and incarcerate citizens, prevented a multi-billion-dollar industry from arising to legally produce and distribute this product and pay possibly billions of dollars in taxes, and instead redirected all of this money into the hands of horrifically violent criminal gangs who pay no taxes... the largest cartels in Mexico, for example, started with and still distribute marijuana with the U.S. their biggest customer. And they will continue to do so regardless! I'm glad Canada is finally legalizing possession and purchasing of cannabis for personal use (in July 2018.) Unfortunately this won't be as complete as it should be but it's still a huge step in the right direction. Meanwhile Attorney General Sessions is promising more arrests, convictions and ruined lives of citizens for growing and consuming a natural plant of their own free will, overriding the states that have voted to legalize it. Oh wait, aren't they the party against "nanny state" regulations telling people what to do, and for "state's rights" as well? So much for that if the states happen to choose something they don't agree with. (If it matters I don't even like the stuff... I tried it a few times when I was young and it does nothing but make me paranoid and anxious. So I don't have any self-interested reason for despising the legislation.) ____ I have yet to see any argument against cannabis that wouldn't apply tenfold to alcohol. Edit: Just so I don't appear biased, I am also quite unhappy that the Democrats under Barack Obama had eight years in which they could have formally legalized, and did nothing. I also indicated that the "conservative" case for legalization is actually very strong, and the Republican Party is going directly against these principles to keep it illegal. I also tend to use the term "cannabis" as this is the actual genus of the plant (Cannabis sativa) as well as the following: Through the early 20th century, however, both the drug and the plant were more commonly known as "cannabis" or "hemp". "Marihuana"'s currency in American English increased dramatically in the 1930s, when it was preferred as an exotic-sounding alternative name during the debates of the drug's use. It has been suggested that it was promoted by opponents of the drug, who wanted to stigmatize it with a "foreign-sounding name". The word was codified into law and became part of common American English with the passing of the 1937 Marihuana tax act. But to each their own. :^) “Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.” --- Margaret Mead |
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yes please! #resist |
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I for one am glad to live in a state which no longer persecutes those who do use the herb. Jeff Sessions wants to revert to prohibition and the the growth of the prison industrial industry. |
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I for one am glad to live in a state which no longer persecutes those who do use the herb. Jeff Sessions wants to revert to prohibition and the the growth of the prison industrial industry.Of course he does, prisoners who are mostly democrat can't vote, prison guards are mostly republican. Job security for Mr. Sessions. ![]() ![]() |
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I for one am glad to live in a state which no longer persecutes those who do use the herb. Jeff Sessions wants to revert to prohibition and the the growth of the prison industrial industry.Of course he does, prisoners who are mostly democrat can't vote, prison guards are mostly republican. Job security for Mr. Sessions. Yessir, a return to the 'war on drugs' and a return to mass incarceration. Please stop, Mr. tRump, I can't take all this winning! #resist |
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Yessir, a return to the 'war on drugs' and a return to mass incarceration. Not the reason. Just our historical fight regarding 'States Rights' vs. Federal Government Authority. Sometimes fought by The Left, as today. Sometimes fought, in the past, by The Right. AKA: KKK. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --- George Santayana Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. --- Lord Acton |
Darth Beaver ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6700 Credit: 21,019,061 RAC: 682 ![]() |
Never a truer word said about American politics and the humble herb and can also apply to most other western country's where it's illegal ![]() |
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Darth and I agree. Will wonders never cease! Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --- George Santayana Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. --- Lord Acton |
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I've been doing that research for over 45 years. I don't have a final opinion so I shall continue. |
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I believe that a lot of us are doing the same thing. :-) Cheers. |
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Vermont becomes the first state to legalize through legislation Vermont’s Legislature become [sic] the first in the nation Wednesday to approve a recreational marijuana legalization bill. “Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.” --- Margaret Mead |
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I've been doing that research for over 45 years. I don't have a final opinion so I shall continue. Alcohol/Marijuana abuse is the same. Only those, whose brain has been addled by the excessive use of either. Believe differently. However... Small, daily consumption of both. Appear to have beneficial effects. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --- George Santayana Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. --- Lord Acton |
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Now why would anyone want to throw non-violent sellers and even buyers of a plant on the free market for personal use in prison, contrary to the very laws of their states? As always, follow the money... Private prisons back Trump and could see big payoffs with new policies WASHINGTON — Private prison companies, which stand to make big gains under President Trump’s tough new immigration orders, also have contributed big sums to pro-Trump groups, including the organization that raised a record $100 million for his inauguration last month. “Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.” --- Margaret Mead |
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Now why would anyone want to throw non-violent sellers and even buyers of a plant on the free market for personal use in prison, contrary to the very laws of their states? As always, follow the money... Prisons, before Privatization, were full of the same people. Just another 'Never Trump' allegation. Which only shows why the 'Never Trumpers' are not the alternative to Dangerous Trump. In my opinion (allowed), and as I have repeatedly observed. Throwing a ton of garbage against the wall. Hoping something will stick. Destroys the 'Never Trumpers' position with the voters. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --- George Santayana Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. --- Lord Acton |
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Prisons, before Privatization, were full of the same people. Which people... the employees? The prisoners? The administrators? I have no idea what you are saying. Just another 'Never Trump' allegation. Which only shows why the 'Never Trumpers' are not the alternative to Dangerous Trump. I don't understand this either. Could we avoid the metaphors unless we agree in advance on what they mean? I have no idea what these mean. In my opinion (allowed), and as I have repeatedly observed. Throwing a ton of garbage against the wall. Hoping something will stick. Destroys the 'Never Trumpers' position with the voters. So... pointing out that the for-profit so-called justice system is profoundly corrupt in that it manufactures non-existent crimes in order to jail people to make money is "throwing a ton of garbage against the wall" and is going to alienate "the voters"? Just wanting to make sure I am understanding your metaphors. “Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.” --- Margaret Mead |
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