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Message 2031026 - Posted: 6 Feb 2020, 13:34:25 UTC - in response to Message 2031021.  

It should be noted that I installed the client and manager fro trouble shooting but do not plan on keeping them since I am going to use AIO. How do I run CMD line boinc in Linux? I am just use to windows and everything is challenging in linux.

I finally found that i can avoid error posted above by starting BOINC without any GUI RPC: boinc --no_gui_rpc

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Message 2031040 - Posted: 6 Feb 2020, 16:24:12 UTC - in response to Message 2031026.  
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It should be noted that I installed the client and manager fro trouble shooting but do not plan on keeping them since I am going to use AIO. How do I run CMD line boinc in Linux? I am just use to windows and everything is challenging in linux.

I finally found that i can avoid error posted above by starting BOINC without any GUI RPC: boinc --no_gui_rpc

You haven't given permission to let the boinc client through the firewall.

https://boinc.mundayweb.com/wiki/index.php?title=GUI_RPC_bind_to_port_31416_failed:_98

If you have started ufw (Gnome Firewall), the make sure you open port 31416 to the boinc client.

It also helps to set the password for the gui_rpc in the gui_rpc_auth.cfg file.

Normally you run boinc via the boinccmd line tool. You can do almost everything with the command line tool that you can do with the Manager.

https://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Boinccmd_tool
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Message 2031046 - Posted: 6 Feb 2020, 17:24:29 UTC - in response to Message 2031040.  

Thanks, that wiki is a great source of info. I can never find these things when I do a search myself and always feel dumb when pointed to something that I should have been able to find easily.

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Message 2031048 - Posted: 6 Feb 2020, 18:03:48 UTC - in response to Message 2031046.  

Thanks, that wiki is a great source of info. I can never find these things when I do a search myself and always feel dumb when pointed to something that I should have been able to find easily.

OK, here are some more you can bookmark for your BOINC folder.

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Anonymous_platform
https://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration#Application_configuration
https://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Controlling_BOINC_remotely
https://github.com/BOINC/boinc
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Message 2031072 - Posted: 6 Feb 2020, 21:02:53 UTC

As part of my latest experiment I have been trying to get past 6 gpus on an MSI B360-F Pro MB.

So I finally through up my hands and grabed the iso I have of Ubuntu 18.04(?) and installed it.

I even have the PPA for the Launch Pad drivers "installed".

What I don't have is the software updater being willing to install the Nvidia drivers. It pauses and then re-selects the "rouseau" driver.

I am using the iGPU for the video. But I have 5 gpus plugged in and it displays a gtx 1070 with a "special driver" installed.

Any ideas?

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Message 2031073 - Posted: 6 Feb 2020, 21:05:51 UTC - in response to Message 2031072.  

why are you using the software updater for that?

if you have the ppa properly added, all you need to do is run: "sudo apt install nvidia-driver-440"

and let it install, reboot, done.
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Message 2031083 - Posted: 6 Feb 2020, 21:54:50 UTC

Sounds like he didn't blacklist the nouveau drivers.
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Message 2031085 - Posted: 6 Feb 2020, 21:56:45 UTC - in response to Message 2031083.  

you don't even need to do that with the PPA though. the install process does it for you. that's only necessary if you're trying to install from the nvidia runfile, which is not the recommended install method for Ubuntu. that method should only be used if you need a specific driver not present in the PPA.
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Message 2031088 - Posted: 6 Feb 2020, 22:16:03 UTC

I have a 2nd problem. After experimenting with the "default" for the ratios of cpu to gpu, even though I have changed the app_config.xml file back to 1:1 the Boinc Manager is still displaying 0.1 to 1. And the task manager is pegging to 100% instead of 88-90%.

I have had "sticky" cpu to gpu ratios before. What do I have to delete/edit to free them up?

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Message 2031091 - Posted: 6 Feb 2020, 22:27:56 UTC - in response to Message 2031088.  
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I have a 2nd problem. After experimenting with the "default" for the ratios of cpu to gpu, even though I have changed the app_config.xml file back to 1:1 the Boinc Manager is still displaying 0.1 to 1. And the task manager is pegging to 100% instead of 88-90%.

I have had "sticky" cpu to gpu ratios before. What do I have to delete/edit to free them up?

Tom


that's just because the "label" sticks. if you close boinc completely and open it back up it should go back to whatever is set in your config files

it would help to know what system you're discussing now and what you're trying to achieve since you keep flip flopping between different issues on different systems. just make it easy on us and post the contents of your config files and what you have set in compute preferences.
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Message 2031103 - Posted: 7 Feb 2020, 0:32:02 UTC - in response to Message 2031073.  

why are you using the software updater for that?

if you have the ppa properly added, all you need to do is run: "sudo apt install nvidia-driver-440"

and let it install, reboot, done.


PPA claims to be properly installed but when I run the above command I get:
tlgalenson@moonshot4:~$ sudo apt install nvidia-driver-440
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 nvidia-driver-440 : Depends: nvidia-dkms-440 (= 440.48.02-0ubuntu0~~18.04.1) but it is not going to be installed
                     Recommends: libnvidia-ifr1-440:i386 (= 440.48.02-0ubuntu0~~18.04.1)
                     Recommends: libnvidia-fbc1-440:i386 (= 440.48.02-0ubuntu0~~18.04.1)
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
tlgalenson@moonshot4:~$ 

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Message 2031104 - Posted: 7 Feb 2020, 0:32:37 UTC

Whatever the cpu/gpu ratio was in place for any previously downloaded task "sticks"

It won't change until you download new work with the new ratio in place.
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Message 2031107 - Posted: 7 Feb 2020, 0:48:59 UTC - in response to Message 2031103.  
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Well there’s your problem. You have broken packages. It helps to just google the error message you receive and try all the solutions that people propose.

I would first purge anything nvidia with :
sudo apt purge *nvidia*


Then try all the suggestions in this link: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/389156/how-to-fix-held-broken-packages

Replace “apt-get” with just “apt” in the commands.

Then do a full udate (sudo apt update and sudo apt upgrade) then reboot and try reinstalling the Nvidia drivers again.
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Message 2031108 - Posted: 7 Feb 2020, 1:27:03 UTC - in response to Message 2031091.  

I have a 2nd problem. After experimenting with the "default" for the ratios of cpu to gpu, even though I have changed the app_config.xml file back to 1:1 the Boinc Manager is still displaying 0.1 to 1. And the task manager is pegging to 100% instead of 88-90%.

I have had "sticky" cpu to gpu ratios before. What do I have to delete/edit to free them up?

Tom


that's just because the "label" sticks. if you close boinc completely and open it back up it should go back to whatever is set in your config files

it would help to know what system you're discussing now and what you're trying to achieve since you keep flip flopping between different issues on different systems. just make it easy on us and post the contents of your config files and what you have set in compute preferences.

https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=8853145

<app_config>
app>
<name>setiathome_v8</name>
<gpu_versions>
<gpu_usage>1.0</gpu_usage>
<cpu_usage>1.0</cpu_usage>
</gpu_versions>
</app>
<app>
<name>astropulse_v7</name>
<gpu_versions>
<gpu_usage>1.0</gpu_usage>
<cpu_usage>1.0</cpu_usage>
</gpu_versions>
</app>
</app_config>


<app_info>
  <app>
     <name>setiathome_v8</name>
  </app>
    <file_info>
      <name>setiathome_x41p_V0.98b1_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu_cuda90</name>
      <executable/>
    </file_info>
    <app_version>
      <app_name>setiathome_v8</app_name>
      <platform>x86_64-pc-linux-gnu</platform>
      <version_num>801</version_num>
      <plan_class>cuda90</plan_class>
      <cmdline>-nobs</cmdline>
      <coproc>
        <type>NVIDIA</type>
        <count>1</count>
      </coproc>
      <avg_ncpus>0.1</avg_ncpus>
      <max_ncpus>0.1</max_ncpus>
      <file_ref>
         <file_name>setiathome_x41p_V0.98b1_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu_cuda90</file_name>
          <main_program/>
      </file_ref>
    </app_version>
  <app>
     <name>astropulse_v7</name>
  </app>
     <file_info>
       <name>astropulse_7.08_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu__opencl_nvidia_100</name>
        <executable/>
     </file_info>
     <file_info>
       <name>AstroPulse_Kernels_r2751.cl</name>
     </file_info>
     <file_info>
       <name>ap_cmdline_7.08_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu__opencl_nvidia_100.txt</name>
     </file_info>
    <app_version>
      <app_name>astropulse_v7</app_name>
      <platform>x86_64-pc-linux-gnu</platform>
      <version_num>708</version_num>
      <plan_class>opencl_nvidia_100</plan_class>
      <coproc>
        <type>NVIDIA</type>
        <count>1</count>
      </coproc>
      <avg_ncpus>0.1</avg_ncpus>
      <max_ncpus>0.1</max_ncpus>
      <file_ref>
         <file_name>astropulse_7.08_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu__opencl_nvidia_100</file_name>
          <main_program/>
      </file_ref>
      <file_ref>
         <file_name>AstroPulse_Kernels_r2751.cl</file_name>
      </file_ref>
      <file_ref>
         <file_name>ap_cmdline_7.08_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu__opencl_nvidia_100.txt</file_name>
         <open_name>ap_cmdline.txt</open_name>
      </file_ref>
    </app_version>
   <app>
      <name>setiathome_v8</name>
   </app>
      <file_info>
         <name>MBv8_8.22r3711_sse41_intel_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu</name>
         <executable/>
      </file_info>
     <app_version>
     <app_name>setiathome_v8</app_name>
     <platform>x86_64-pc-linux-gnu</platform>
     <version_num>800</version_num>   
      <file_ref>
        <file_name>MBv8_8.22r3711_sse41_intel_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu</file_name>
        <main_program/>
      </file_ref>
    </app_version>
   <app>
      <name>astropulse_v7</name>
   </app>
     <file_info>
       <name>ap_7.05r2728_sse3_linux64</name>
        <executable/>
     </file_info>
    <app_version>
       <app_name>astropulse_v7</app_name>
       <version_num>704</version_num>
       <platform>x86_64-pc-linux-gnu</platform>
       <plan_class></plan_class>
       <file_ref>
         <file_name>ap_7.05r2728_sse3_linux64</file_name>
          <main_program/>
       </file_ref>
    </app_version>
</app_info>


The local settings are below. Please note the reason I am set to using 70% of the available cpu threads is currently any higher setting causes the Task Manager to report 100% utilization.



After shutting down Boinc Manager and re-booting the system I get this:

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Message 2031112 - Posted: 7 Feb 2020, 1:38:40 UTC

Anyone have thoughts as to why my GTX980 boxes run just great, and the box with GTX750tis on cuda90 likes to crash like a gut-shot goose?
More details are available, but I'm just wondering if there's something inherent in the special sauce that wants more GPU than I'm offering.
4x750s on a hexacore Xeon certainly isn't CPU resource-constrained.
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Message 2031113 - Posted: 7 Feb 2020, 1:40:15 UTC - in response to Message 2031108.  

like keith added, the label doesnt change until you download some new tasks with the changed settings.

if you click show all tasks and look at newly downloaded tasks, you should see then labelled correctly. if you havent downloaded more tasks yet, do that first, then restart boinc. it's usually allowed the label to change on the old tasks for me.

but even the ones labelled as 0.1 will still use a full core with -nobs applied. and that's probably why it's using more CPU than you want. BOINC thinks its only using 0.6 cores for those 6 GPU jobs, when its really using 6 full cores, so it's over committing. it should sort itself out once those 0.1 labelled tasks are finished or changed.
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Message 2031114 - Posted: 7 Feb 2020, 1:41:20 UTC - in response to Message 2031112.  
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Anyone have thoughts as to why my GTX980 boxes run just great, and the box with GTX750tis on cuda90 likes to crash like a gut-shot goose?
More details are available, but I'm just wondering if there's something inherent in the special sauce that wants more GPU than I'm offering.
4x750s on a hexacore Xeon certainly isn't CPU resource-constrained.


are you running CPU work on that system? or GPU only?

looking at your errored tasks, it's clear that one of the GPUs is crashing. it disappears and the system starts reporting only 3 cards and boinc keeps trying to assign work to the non-existent 4th card over and over and over.

edit - i see now that you are running CPU work also. I'd try stopping that first. are you using risers? i would examine those as well if you are. replace the USB cables if applicable
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Message 2031117 - Posted: 7 Feb 2020, 1:49:52 UTC - in response to Message 2031112.  

Anyone have thoughts as to why my GTX980 boxes run just great, and the box with GTX750tis on cuda90 likes to crash like a gut-shot goose?
More details are available, but I'm just wondering if there's something inherent in the special sauce that wants more GPU than I'm offering.
4x750s on a hexacore Xeon certainly isn't CPU resource-constrained.


I have run the special sauce with gtx 750Ti's. 2 or 3 including 2 on one box. I am sure there are a couple of other people who have too.

I have no clue why yours would do that.

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Message 2031120 - Posted: 7 Feb 2020, 1:54:35 UTC - in response to Message 2031107.  

Well there’s your problem. You have broken packages. It helps to just google the error message you receive and try all the solutions that people propose.

I would first purge anything nvidia with :
sudo apt purge *nvidia*


Then try all the suggestions in this link: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/389156/how-to-fix-held-broken-packages

Replace “apt-get” with just “apt” in the commands.

Then do a full udate (sudo apt update and sudo apt upgrade) then reboot and try reinstalling the Nvidia drivers again.


Just re-installed Ubuntu from scratch. Then did this:
tlgalenson@moonshot4:~$ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa
[sudo] password for tlgalenson: 
 Fresh drivers from upstream, currently shipping Nvidia.

## Current Status

Current long-lived branch release: `nvidia-430` (430.40)
Dropped support for Fermi series (https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4656)

Old long-lived branch release: `nvidia-390` (390.129)

For GF1xx GPUs use `nvidia-390` (390.129)
For G8x, G9x and GT2xx GPUs use `nvidia-340` (340.107)
For NV4x and G7x GPUs use `nvidia-304` (304.137) End-Of-Life!

Support timeframes for Unix legacy GPU releases:
https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3142

## What we're working on right now:

- Normal driver updates
- Help Wanted: Mesa Updates for Intel/AMD users, ping us if you want to help do this work, we're shorthanded.

## WARNINGS:

This PPA is currently in testing, you should be experienced with packaging before you dive in here:

Volunteers welcome!

### How you can help:

## Install PTS and benchmark your gear:

    sudo apt-get install phoronix-test-suite

Run the benchmark:

    phoronix-test-suite default-benchmark openarena xonotic tesseract gputest unigine-valley

and then say yes when it asks you to submit your results to openbechmarking.org. Then grab a cup of coffee, it takes a bit for the benchmarks to run. Depending on the version of Ubuntu you're using it might preferable for you to grabs PTS from upstream directly: http://www.phoronix-test-suite.com/?k=downloads

## Share your results with the community:

Post a link to your results (or any other feedback to): https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers-testers

Remember to rerun and resubmit the benchmarks after driver upgrades, this will allow us to gather a bunch of data on performance that we can share with everybody.

If you run into old documentation referring to other PPAs, you can help us by consolidating references to this PPA.

If someone wants to go ahead and start prototyping on `software-properties-gtk` on what the GUI should look like, please start hacking!

## Help us Help You!

We use the donation funds to get the developers hardware to test and upload these drivers, please consider donating to the "community" slider on the donation page if you're loving this PPA:

http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/contribute
 More info: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
Press [ENTER] to continue or Ctrl-c to cancel adding it.

Hit:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic InRelease
Get:2 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security InRelease [88.7 kB]    
Get:3 http://ppa.launchpad.net/graphics-drivers/ppa/ubuntu bionic InRelease [21.3 kB]
Get:4 http://ppa.launchpad.net/graphics-drivers/ppa/ubuntu bionic/main i386 Packages [17.5 kB]
Get:5 http://ppa.launchpad.net/graphics-drivers/ppa/ubuntu bionic/main amd64 Packages [26.1 kB]
Get:6 http://ppa.launchpad.net/graphics-drivers/ppa/ubuntu bionic/main Translation-en [6,800 B]
Fetched 160 kB in 2s (91.8 kB/s)                              
Reading package lists... Done
tlgalenson@moonshot4:~$ sudo apt-get update
Hit:1 http://ppa.launchpad.net/graphics-drivers/ppa/ubuntu bionic InRelease
Hit:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic InRelease               
Get:3 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security InRelease [88.7 kB]
Fetched 88.7 kB in 1s (160 kB/s)                              
Reading package lists... Done
tlgalenson@moonshot4:~$  sudo apt install nvidia-driver-440
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 nvidia-driver-440 : Depends: nvidia-dkms-440 (= 440.48.02-0ubuntu0~~18.04.1) but it is not going to be installed
                     Depends: xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-440 (= 440.48.02-0ubuntu0~~18.04.1) but it is not going to be installed
                     Depends: libnvidia-ifr1-440 (= 440tlgalenson@moonshot4:~$ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa
[sudo] password for tlgalenson: 
 Fresh drivers from upstream, currently shipping Nvidia.

## Current Status

Current long-lived branch release: `nvidia-430` (430.40)
Dropped support for Fermi series (https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4656)

Old long-lived branch release: `nvidia-390` (390.129)

For GF1xx GPUs use `nvidia-390` (390.129)
For G8x, G9x and GT2xx GPUs use `nvidia-340` (340.107)
For NV4x and G7x GPUs use `nvidia-304` (304.137) End-Of-Life!

Support timeframes for Unix legacy GPU releases:
https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3142

## What we're working on right now:

- Normal driver updates
- Help Wanted: Mesa Updates for Intel/AMD users, ping us if you want to help do this work, we're shorthanded.

## WARNINGS:

This PPA is currently in testing, you should be experienced with packaging before you dive in here:

Volunteers welcome!

### How you can help:

## Install PTS and benchmark your gear:

    sudo apt-get install phoronix-test-suite

Run the benchmark:

    phoronix-test-suite default-benchmark openarena xonotic tesseract gputest unigine-valley

and then say yes when it asks you to submit your results to openbechmarking.org. Then grab a cup of coffee, it takes a bit for the benchmarks to run. Depending on the version of Ubuntu you're using it might preferable for you to grabs PTS from upstream directly: http://www.phoronix-test-suite.com/?k=downloads

## Share your results with the community:

Post a link to your results (or any other feedback to): https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers-testers

Remember to rerun and resubmit the benchmarks after driver upgrades, this will allow us to gather a bunch of data on performance that we can share with everybody.

If you run into old documentation referring to other PPAs, you can help us by consolidating references to this PPA.

If someone wants to go ahead and start prototyping on `software-properties-gtk` on what the GUI should look like, please start hacking!

## Help us Help You!

We use the donation funds to get the developers hardware to test and upload these drivers, please consider donating to the "community" slider on the donation page if you're loving this PPA:

http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/contribute
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Hit:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic InRelease
Get:2 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security InRelease [88.7 kB]    
Get:3 http://ppa.launchpad.net/graphics-drivers/ppa/ubuntu bionic InRelease [21.3 kB]
Get:4 http://ppa.launchpad.net/graphics-drivers/ppa/ubuntu bionic/main i386 Packages [17.5 kB]
Get:5 http://ppa.launchpad.net/graphics-drivers/ppa/ubuntu bionic/main amd64 Packages [26.1 kB]
Get:6 http://ppa.launchpad.net/graphics-drivers/ppa/ubuntu bionic/main Translation-en [6,800 B]
Fetched 160 kB in 2s (91.8 kB/s)                              
Reading package lists... Done
tlgalenson@moonshot4:~$ sudo apt-get update
Hit:1 http://ppa.launchpad.net/graphics-drivers/ppa/ubuntu bionic InRelease
Hit:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic InRelease               
Get:3 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security InRelease [88.7 kB]
Fetched 88.7 kB in 1s (160 kB/s)                              
Reading package lists... Done
tlgalenson@moonshot4:~$  sudo apt install nvidia-driver-440
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 nvidia-driver-440 : Depends: nvidia-dkms-440 (= 440.48.02-0ubuntu0~~18.04.1) but it is not going to be installed
                     Depends: xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-440 (= 440.48.02-0ubuntu0~~18.04.1) but it is not going to be installed
                     Depends: libnvidia-ifr1-440 (= 440.48.02-0ubuntu0~~18.04.1) but it is not going to be installed
                     Depends: libnvidia-fbc1-440 (= 440.48.02-0ubuntu0~~18.04.1) but it is not going to be installed
                     Recommends: nvidia-settings but it is not going to be installed
                     Recommends: libnvidia-ifr1-440:i386 (= 440.48.02-0ubuntu0~~18.04.1)
                     Recommends: libnvidia-fbc1-440:i386 (= 440.48.02-0ubuntu0~~18.04.1)
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
tlgalenson@moonshot4:~$ .48.02-0ubuntu0~~18.04.1) but it is not going to be installed
                     Depends: libnvidia-fbc1-440 (= 440.48.02-0ubuntu0~~18.04.1) but it is not going to be installed
                     Recommends: nvidia-settings but it is not going to be installed
                     Recommends: libnvidia-ifr1-440:i386 (= 440.48.02-0ubuntu0~~18.04.1)
                     Recommends: libnvidia-fbc1-440:i386 (= 440.48.02-0ubuntu0~~18.04.1)
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
tlgalenson@moonshot4:~$ 


Maybe my not very fresh copy of Ubuntu is broken?

Tom
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