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Message 1950935 - Posted: 20 Aug 2018, 18:52:23 UTC - in response to Message 1950902.  

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. . I believe you said you have a version of 0.96 that was compiled on a machine with a compatible software environment to work on this rig? If so is there a link to download it?

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This machine is running Ubuntu 14.04.1 running the software receive around Noon on Saturday, https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6906726
This is a recent result on an Arecibo VLAR, https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=6906865500
From Noon on Saturday to Noon on Monday is TWO Days, do you think it is Safe to release Software after TWO days of Testing?
I suppose you can argue it's more Safe than releasing it with Zero Days testing, as was done Saturday, but, I don't know of anyone else that releases Software with ZERO Days of testing.
Most of the time the testing is measured in Weeks. So, do you think Two days is enough?
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Message 1950972 - Posted: 20 Aug 2018, 22:27:31 UTC - in response to Message 1950921.  

Just tried to help Zalster install the 396.51 drivers via the .run file in root recovery terminal. Met with disaster. Run file installation detected errors and was given permission to fix them and it did and then just threw out a bug error and corrupted the file system. System won't load anymore. Will have to reinstall complete again.

Only reason this was attempted is that the system complained about installing the 396.51 drivers from the Software Updater.


. . That's bad news, it explains why his numbers have dropped off a bit though ... :(

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Message 1950974 - Posted: 20 Aug 2018, 22:41:39 UTC - in response to Message 1950935.  

[quote]@ TBar

. . I believe you said you have a version of 0.96 that was compiled on a machine with a compatible software environment to work on this rig? If so is there a link to download it?

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This machine is running Ubuntu 14.04.1 running the software receive around Noon on Saturday, https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6906726
This is a recent result on an Arecibo VLAR, https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=6906865500
From Noon on Saturday to Noon on Monday is TWO Days, do you think it is Safe to release Software after TWO days of Testing?
I suppose you can argue it's more Safe than releasing it with Zero Days testing, as was done Saturday, but, I don't know of anyone else that releases Software with ZERO Days of testing.
Most of the time the testing is measured in Weeks. So, do you think Two days is enough?[/quote]

. . Hi TBar,

. . I was actually asking about the 0.96 version which I believe you have been running for a while now, sorry about the confusion. As to testing time? No, empirically an app should be tested for more than a couple of days on a single machine before being released to the general public. But if you are asking would I take the gamble and try it? Of course I would :) OK I will have to wait a while longer, but your previous message about getting CUDA92 compatible drivers loaded had me drooling ...

Stephen

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Message 1950977 - Posted: 20 Aug 2018, 23:20:30 UTC - in response to Message 1950972.  

He was able to install the 396.51 drivers after a complete distribution re-install. So whatever was hanging up the driver installation got sorted out on the new installation of the OS. Didn't help that earlier this morning the ppa server and ppa key server were unavailable for an hour. Back up again thankfully. So he got another host up on the 0.97 special app.

Looks like he determined that the casita router or switch was buckling under the traffic load, and could only support two systems, because the systems that couldn't connect to the internet in the casita work fine from the house. I told him to get a better unmanaged switch for the casita.
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Message 1950989 - Posted: 21 Aug 2018, 0:07:14 UTC - in response to Message 1950977.  
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So he installed the Same System again? Expecting Different Results this time? Hopefully it will work out....
Which System/Kernel is he having trouble with? I'll mark that down for future reference.

Stephen, you appear to be a little behind. 0.96 had problems from Day One with the Arecibo tasks. Finally it was put to rest after a horde of Shorties. See, V0.96 Ate My Shorties...Just Like TBar Said it Would.
It was replaced by the Bug Fix V0.97 on Saturday. Also on Saturday We had a large number of Volunteer Alpha Tests step up to test the Bug Fix Release...probably didn't know they were Alpha testers. Fortunately, I haven't seen any reports claiming "V0.97 Ate My 'Puter", so, we are Much further along with testing than normal for Two Days. I will probably post the 0.97 version for Ubuntu 14.04 soon, along with the Pascal version of 0.97 which seems to need 16.04.

So far, the only troubling thing I've seen is 0.97 sometimes reports One less Pulse than the other App. Troubling 'cause I don't see any reason for it unlike the difference in Pulses seen with zi3v. zi3v would sometimes report an additional Pulse, but, it was a Pulse with a Score of Exactly One which the other Apps weren't reporting.
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Message 1950992 - Posted: 21 Aug 2018, 0:20:06 UTC - in response to Message 1950989.  

Fortunately, I haven't seen any reports claiming "V0.97 Ate My 'Puter",
LMAO, hand up! Sort of ...
I tried the Ubuntu 14 ->> 16 update from the OS, and it wouldn't start back up ... continuous dot dot dot dot dot ... I thought it was a post install so let it sit for 90m and no go, rebooted and the same for 30 minutes ... time to pull the plug and re-image from the backup I made. What a waste of 8 bloody hours of backups/downloads/installing.
Next try will be 18 form a DVD ... later ...
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Message 1951016 - Posted: 21 Aug 2018, 1:54:38 UTC - in response to Message 1950992.  

Fortunately, I haven't seen any reports claiming "V0.97 Ate My 'Puter",
LMAO, hand up! Sort of ...
I tried the Ubuntu 14 ->> 16 update from the OS, and it wouldn't start back up ... continuous dot dot dot dot dot ... I thought it was a post install so let it sit for 90m and no go, rebooted and the same for 30 minutes ... time to pull the plug and re-image from the backup I made. What a waste of 8 bloody hours of backups/downloads/installing.
Next try will be 18 form a DVD ... later ...

Almost positive you could have avoided that with a change to the grub file in the installer to add nomodeset to the kernel command line.
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Message 1951018 - Posted: 21 Aug 2018, 2:02:21 UTC - in response to Message 1950992.  
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I haven't had any luck trying to in place upgrade either. It took forever and then had numerous problems afterwards. The best method I've found is to have a separate Home partition with numerous System partitions and one Swap partition. That way your Home folder stays the same and the only change is to the System Partition. Say, One 70 GB Home Partition, One 16 GB Swap Partition, and Three 50 GB System Partitions. To install another System select 'Something Else', then choose the Home Partition without formatting, the Swap Partition, and the System Partition with formatting. You can have 3 different Systems all using the same Home and Swap Partitions. If one System has troubles, you can just Format and install a new System while your Home Folder remains unchanged. Since I keep my BOINC folder in my Home folder, It's very fast and easy to quickly swap out to a clean system. It also helps to be able to boot to the Development System, Compile an App in 14.04.1, then boot to 16.04 and test it.
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Message 1951020 - Posted: 21 Aug 2018, 2:09:27 UTC - in response to Message 1951018.  

Interesting to hear about the in-place system update not working. I have been offered the upgrade to 18.04 on both my 16.04 systems within the last day now. I've said no to the upgrade until after the WoW contest. Have doubts now about giving it a try. I think I will backup my BOINC folder and move it off the OS drive when I accept the upgrade installation. If it goes wrong, I can always do a clean install from flash drive and be up and ready for running in an hour for unpacking of my saved BOINC folder. That is my future plan at least.
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Message 1951024 - Posted: 21 Aug 2018, 2:23:33 UTC - in response to Message 1951020.  

Well, that was a few years ago. Things may have changed, but I doubt it. If you had a few partitions on your drive you could just install 18.04 on another partition and keep 16.04. Once I found out you could have numerous systems all using the Same Home folder it's been then only way for me. If one system fails after an update, just boot to the other system. There isn't any excuse for having your machine down because there are problems with a single system. If 18.04 croaks, boot to 16.04 and carry on.
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Message 1951036 - Posted: 21 Aug 2018, 3:05:44 UTC - in response to Message 1951024.  

A smart and efficient way of doing things, I agree. I disliked have the grub bootloader getting in the way when I had both 12.04 and 16.04 on separate partitions on the same drive when I attempted to build BOINC when I first started. With the inexpensive cost of SSD's now, I think any OS deserves its own drive now. I am placing all my eggs in the same basket now with the belief that 18.04 has been very stable for me and shouldn't cause any issues that would force a complete reload. I have more issues with 16.04 initially and mainly I have issues with my last remaining 1st Gen Ryzen that still gets sigsegv errors constantly. The 2nd Gen Ryzens have been very good along with their motherboards. I will let the credit card cool off some more and for more income to roll in later in the year, but I want to move to a Ryzen+ and the C7H system for that troublesome 1st Gen Ryzen system.
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Message 1951044 - Posted: 21 Aug 2018, 4:21:29 UTC - in response to Message 1951036.  

Well, my only advice is to keep your Home Folder separate from your System(s). If you have to reinstall the System it's Much easier if your Home Folder remains untouched. Everything of value is in the Home folder, so, it makes sense to keep it safe. It also makes sense to have your BOINC Folder in your Home Folder and also separate from your system. Basically the system folder is expendable, the others are much harder to replace. To fix the system all it takes is about 25 minutes to install a new one, a few minutes to install the couple of dependencies and driver, then you're back to the way you were before. No screwing around with the Home folder or BOINC. It also helps if you have the same Home Folder and BOINC Folder no matter which system you are booted to, everything is the same as with the other system, the only change is the system folder.
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Message 1951049 - Posted: 21 Aug 2018, 4:46:29 UTC

Installed on Mint 18.3 and so far all runs fine, at around double speed.

Have also tried running keepP2 for the first time, don't think I see any speed improvement.
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Message 1951050 - Posted: 21 Aug 2018, 4:51:05 UTC - in response to Message 1951049.  

Installed on Mint 18.3 and so far all runs fine, at around double speed.

Have also tried running keepP2 for the first time, don't think I see any speed improvement.

KeepP2 is not for speed improvement alone. Its purpose is to prevent system crashes when overclocking.
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Message 1951051 - Posted: 21 Aug 2018, 4:51:45 UTC

OK, I don't overclock.
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Message 1951060 - Posted: 21 Aug 2018, 7:04:13 UTC - in response to Message 1951018.  

I haven't had any luck trying to in place upgrade either. It took forever and then had numerous problems afterwards. The best method I've found is to have a separate Home partition with numerous System partitions and one Swap partition. That way your Home folder stays the same and the only change is to the System Partition. Say, One 70 GB Home Partition, One 16 GB Swap Partition, and Three 50 GB System Partitions. To install another System select 'Something Else', then choose the Home Partition without formatting, the Swap Partition, and the System Partition with formatting. You can have 3 different Systems all using the same Home and Swap Partitions. If one System has troubles, you can just Format and install a new System while your Home Folder remains unchanged. Since I keep my BOINC folder in my Home folder, It's very fast and easy to quickly swap out to a clean system. It also helps to be able to boot to the Development System, Compile an App in 14.04.1, then boot to 16.04 and test it.


. . And the multiple boot selection is easy to use?

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Message 1951062 - Posted: 21 Aug 2018, 7:11:47 UTC

OK, try this in Ubuntu 14.04 (And Others);
Linux_Maxwell+v0.97_Special
As with all the CUDA 9.x Apps, you need a Compute Code 5.0 GPU with at least 2 GB of vRAM.
If you have a GTX 960 2GB it will be very close to running out of vRAM at Unroll 8. If possible, connect the Monitor to a different GPU.
It should work with Kernel 3.13 and above, and CC 5.0 GPUs and above. Yes, it will work with Pascal and any forthcoming GPUs as well as Maxwell.
Same download as CUDA 9.0, app_info.xml and other Apps are included as well as the AMD CPU App 3711.
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Message 1951122 - Posted: 21 Aug 2018, 15:26:18 UTC

Thank you TBar!
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"You can't always get what you want / but if you try sometimes you just might find / you get what you need." -- Rolling Stones
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Message 1951133 - Posted: 21 Aug 2018, 21:10:35 UTC

How does the performance compare to the CUDA 9.0 app? I've just been running that w/o modifications.
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Message 1951139 - Posted: 21 Aug 2018, 21:26:31 UTC - in response to Message 1951133.  

I would estimate that it is 50% faster overall than zi3v app.
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