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Ian&Steve C. Send message Joined: 28 Sep 99 Posts: 4267 Credit: 1,282,604,591 RAC: 6,640 |
what are the two edits you need to do to preserve a system like that, again? like when moving OSes. I know I've done it in a couple cases but don't remember what exactly needed to be changed. just host ID and the connection counter+1? Seti@Home classic workunits: 29,492 CPU time: 134,419 hours |
Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 |
what are the two edits you need to do to preserve a system like that, again? like when moving OSes. I know I've done it in a couple cases but don't remember what exactly needed to be changed. Yes. HostID and the <rpc_seqno>xxxxxxx</rpc_seqno> Just put back the original host ID and increment the <rpc_seqno> value by +1 from what the website shows as the number of times the old host has contacted the project. <Number of times client has contacted server> from the host Details page. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
Stephen "Heretic" Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 |
what I am talking about is creating a new host ID only temporarily. . . Fair enough about the merge but that still involves creating a new Host ID, and when you merge it keeps the new ID and buries the older one. I have been there before. Sadly, while simpler, it defeats my objectives on two counts. Stephen :( |
Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 |
what I am talking about is creating a new host ID only temporarily. But you don't merge. You just edit the client state to get back the original hostID and name. Simple. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
elec999 Send message Joined: 24 Nov 02 Posts: 375 Credit: 416,969,548 RAC: 141 |
I got another 1070ti and 1050ti coming in soon. |
Todderbert Send message Joined: 17 Jun 99 Posts: 221 Credit: 53,153,779 RAC: 0 |
I got another 1070ti and 1050ti coming in soon. Nice, I have a 2060 Super arriving in a few days. Should be an interesting time with the driver setup. |
Stephen "Heretic" Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 |
. . OK, several cross discussion going on here ... so to focus on one machine which will be :- First rig - i5-6600 + 2 x GTX1070s. No Boinc or apps on this new drive, so blank slate . . o Step 1 - make a BOINC directory on my 'Home' drive. . . o Step 2 - extract the Boinc version 7.14.2 and copy all the files into the new BOINC directory. . . o Step 3 - make a projects directory in the BOINC folder. . . o Step 4 - copy all the files from the top level of the extracted BOINC folder plus the files in the projects sub-folder into the new projects directory. . . o Step 5 - copy the file list from Keith from the old Linux 14.04 BOINC folder over the new BOINC folder. . . o Step 6 - disable the network . . o Step 7 - double click on the Boincmanager file to test . . Where have I gotten this part wrong? Stephen ? ? |
Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 |
. . OK, several cross discussion going on here ... so to focus on one machine which will be :- First rig - i5-6600 + 2 x GTX1070s. No Boinc or apps on this new drive, so blank slate Step 6.5 Use ldd to check for missing dependencies of boinc and boincmgr. Shouldn't be any with the AIO, but it has tripped people up before who have had a wonky default installation of Ubuntu. Doesn't take more than a minute to check. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
Stephen "Heretic" Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 |
Step 6.5 Use ldd to check for missing dependencies of boinc and boincmgr. Shouldn't be any with the AIO, but it has tripped people up before who have had a wonky default installation of Ubuntu. Doesn't take more than a minute to check. . . I did all of that but still managed to screw up, I triple checked everything with the BOINC and Seti folders and files but I got careless on the install and did not notice that a 't' had not registered in the rig name :( aaarrrghh! I hate changing things :( . . Now I have to find where to change the rig name once it is it running ... {edit} I have corrected the host name but I am still stuck with the new host ID. Is it possible at this stage to go back to the correct host ID? I still have the files from the old setup intact. Stephen :( |
Stephen "Heretic" Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 |
. . If I delete client_state.xml and recopy those files back into the new directory would that possibly restore the rig to its original ID? . . Getting desperate here :( {EDIT- the answer is no} "Not happy Jan!" Stephen ? ? |
Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5124 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
I got another 1070ti and 1050ti coming in soon. +1 A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5124 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
I got another 1070ti and 1050ti coming in soon. happy upgrading :) A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 |
. . If I delete client_state.xml and recopy those files back into the new directory would that possibly restore the rig to its original ID? No you can't do that unless you strip out all references to the applications. It is easier to just edit your new client_state file and change the hostid to your old one. And increment <rpc_seqno> by +1. Your host ID is listed at Seti in your Computers page. You can also change your hostname to the correct one after the typo. Hostname is domain_name in the file. It is imperative you increment <rpc_seqno> by adding one to the existing value or you will create another new hostid. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
Stephen "Heretic" Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 |
No you can't do that unless you strip out all references to the applications. It is easier to just edit your new client_state file and change the hostid to your old one. And increment <rpc_seqno> by +1. . . Ok will do :- . . Does this sound right? . . Suspend all unstarted WUs and allow running units to complete and report, then suspend and exit BOINC . . Check the Computers listing at SETI for the original ID number and take note of the "Number of times SETI has been contacted". . . Edit client_state.xml and find Host ID , replace it with old one, find rpc_seqno and change it to the posted number +1 . . {edit- these only appear once right?} . . Restart and resume BOINC and all suspended WUs. . . Would that be safe? . . That will then pose the question, if the old number is the active one and the newer ID is defunct would the old ID win out in a merge? I am guessing NO! :( . . {edit} on rethink should I abort all uncompleted tasks because they will be assigned to the new ID and SETI will have pups ? ? ? Stephen ? ? |
Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 |
Yes, that is correct. Host ID appears as lower case hostid in the file. Both hostid and rpc_seqno only appears once in the very first part of the file near the top for a Seti project only host. A Find in the Editor will find them. If you have other projects in the client_state, make sure to adjust the hostid's and rpc_seqno's for those projects in their respective sections. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
Stephen "Heretic" Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 |
Yes, that is correct. Host ID appears as lower case hostid in the file. Both hostid and rpc_seqno only appears once in the very first part of the file near the top for a Seti project only host. A Find in the Editor will find them. If you have other projects in the client_state, make sure to adjust the hostid's and rpc_seqno's for those projects in their respective sections. . . Again Keith thanks for your help! Thanks to a slow keyboard interface I stuffed up part of the process but overall it was a success. I failed one objective because of poor typing skills but got there in the end. . . Is this the technique that Juan used/uses to preserve a host ID when migrating from one OS to another? Stephen ? |
juan BFP Send message Joined: 16 Mar 07 Posts: 9786 Credit: 572,710,851 RAC: 3,799 |
. . Is this the technique that Juan used/uses to preserve a host ID when migrating from one OS to another? Yes |
Stephen "Heretic" Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 |
. . Is this the technique that Juan used/uses to preserve a host ID when migrating from one OS to another? . . Thank you Juan, you are a man of few words :) . . I must say it is a far less dramatic process than most of the hoops one has to jump through in this pastime, and very successful. Stephen :) |
juan BFP Send message Joined: 16 Mar 07 Posts: 9786 Credit: 572,710,851 RAC: 3,799 |
. . Is this the technique that Juan used/uses to preserve a host ID when migrating from one OS to another? Just remember, completely exit the boinc (not just the manager, the boinc client itself) before try to edit the file or nothing will work. |
Stephen "Heretic" Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 |
. . Many thanks Keith. . . Are you currently using any scripts/tools to achieve automatic fan control? The script I had been using ceased to function, one of the updates changed something and it just produced errors. It would be good not to have to keep manually adjusting the fans when the weather gets warm(hot). Stephen ? ? |
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