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Message 2001127 - Posted: 5 Jul 2019, 1:17:57 UTC

Isn't ordering someone to condemn something exactly what you are condemning? Essentially you are imposing your will on another person.
So the question is when are you going to condemn yourself?
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Message 2001128 - Posted: 5 Jul 2019, 1:21:28 UTC - in response to Message 2001127.  
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Isn't ordering someone to condemn something exactly what you are condemning? Essentially you are imposing your will on another person.
So the question is when are you going to condemn yourself?

Not only ordering a condemnation. But ordering them to think the same way they do and use the same terminology. Quite fascist if you ask me.

Awaiting Clyde’s condemnation of himself.
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Message 2001130 - Posted: 5 Jul 2019, 1:26:13 UTC - in response to Message 2001125.  
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Of course it’s not a western democracy.
Yes. Do as you're told or else is not a democracy motto.
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Message 2001131 - Posted: 5 Jul 2019, 1:41:29 UTC - in response to Message 2001126.  

But the rest of the country, roughly 1.4 Billion, might be able to do something. If they wish to. It’s up to them to take action.
You mean like in Hong Kong right now?

Exactly like that.
Won't happen in the other China though!
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Message 2001162 - Posted: 5 Jul 2019, 14:34:56 UTC - in response to Message 2001157.  
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The evil Chinese government is allowing it to happen in HK. It’s the same government. HK is IN China. Under their rule since 1997.

And if you had any real exposure to China, you’d know that almost everyone uses proxies and VPNs to get around the great firewall. People have access to information about anything.
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Message 2001166 - Posted: 5 Jul 2019, 15:31:48 UTC - in response to Message 2001162.  

It's the Han people that rule in China.
Other people in China are at best only re-educated.
Not in HK however!
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Message 2001169 - Posted: 5 Jul 2019, 15:46:51 UTC - in response to Message 2001166.  

I met many ethnic minorities while traveling in China. The Tujia people I stayed with in the Hunan region didn’t seem oppressed at all. They lived their lives quite peacefully.

The government says that most people in China are Han, but there are many many ethnic minorities in China and most of them are not oppressed. The people in Xinjiang are the exception to this.

You have to understand that China is a very homogenous country. Identity is very strongly linked to your blood/genes and what you look like. I don’t agree with it, but that’s how their culture is. Uyghur people look more middle eastern/western/Caucasian and most don’t identify with chinese ethnically or culturally. This causes tensions. It’s hard to understand when you come from a western country that’s used to diversity. It’s a combination of fear and control that leads the CCP to act this way. Everything in China is about face. They (CCP) have to have the image of control, and are afraid of losing it.
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Message 2001178 - Posted: 5 Jul 2019, 16:21:46 UTC - in response to Message 2001169.  

Everything in China is about face.
Everything in Asia is about face and what your great great granddad did to my great great granddad. Everything there works corruption of bloodline.
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Message 2001181 - Posted: 5 Jul 2019, 16:31:05 UTC - in response to Message 2001178.  
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Everything in China is about face.
Everything in Asia is about face and what your great great granddad did to my great great granddad. Everything there works corruption of bloodline.


you're not wrong. but i feel the emphasis put on face is quite a bit stronger than other Asian countries
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Message 2001185 - Posted: 5 Jul 2019, 17:15:54 UTC - in response to Message 2001181.  

Everything in China is about face.
Everything in Asia is about face and what your great great granddad did to my great great granddad. Everything there works corruption of bloodline.


you're not wrong. but i feel the emphasis put on face is quite a bit stronger than other Asian countries

The more western they become the less the emphasis on face. Obvious difference would be DPRK and ROK.

My other observation about face is, the more a person worries about his own face and attempts to put on a good one, the less actual face they have. Or in western terms the more you seek to appear moral to others, the less moral you are.
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Message 2001187 - Posted: 5 Jul 2019, 17:21:21 UTC - in response to Message 2001169.  
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I met many ethnic minorities while traveling in China. The Tujia people I stayed with in the Hunan region didn’t seem oppressed at all. They lived their lives quite peacefully.

The government says that most people in China are Han, but there are many many ethnic minorities in China and most of them are not oppressed. The people in Xinjiang are the exception to this.

You have to understand that China is a very homogenous country. Identity is very strongly linked to your blood/genes and what you look like. I don’t agree with it, but that’s how their culture is. Uyghur people look more middle eastern/western/Caucasian and most don’t identify with chinese ethnically or culturally. This causes tensions. It’s hard to understand when you come from a western country that’s used to diversity. It’s a combination of fear and control that leads the CCP to act this way. Everything in China is about face. They (CCP) have to have the image of control, and are afraid of losing it.
That's probably true. We have indigenous people here as well in our little country.
We have some Same and Finns that have lived here long before we did.
Now since my GF is both a Same and a Finn, and part Russian as well, it can be a problem:)
One thing that is really funny though is that one of her brothers was forced to learn Swedish.
A Swedish program called SFI, Swedish for immigrants.
The only language he knewed is of course Swedish since he was born in Sweden and never spoke Same or Finn.

btw. Do Sames have a different face?
Yes:)


Yes. cultural differences in a country do matter in the political world...
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