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Message 1858725 - Posted: 31 Mar 2017, 22:39:09 UTC - in response to Message 1858675.  

Might have taken thousands of years for a message to have reached us so a couple of weeks of lost data isn't much in the scheme of life :)

Ah, but we have snow in the forecast for tonight and I need the heat ! :) :)

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@ Eric: I wish you Good Luck, hopefully We all don't have to do a do over.
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Message 1858730 - Posted: 31 Mar 2017, 22:44:41 UTC - in response to Message 1858599.  
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The ONLY frustrating part for me is seeing all you newbies, within the last 5 - 10 years, that have 3, 4, 5 TIMES as many work units done than I do :-(
My PC is on 24/7, unless it freezes or crashes during the night, and I have an 8 core AMD, 6 cores are dedicated to SETI, and I run Nvidia CUDDA. Just installed SETI on my 2 PC's at work too :-D

I work in Data Storage, keep trying to get my company to donate one of our smaller systems, but at 1.2 million each, they are a bit leery. I'll keep working on it, maybe one of these days.


I think that most of us just use our own PC's and not our work or business PC's. If you have access and allowed then good for you but no good being frustrated because you don't.

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Message 1858740 - Posted: 31 Mar 2017, 23:21:36 UTC - in response to Message 1858701.  

The project is suspended because of a database problem. It should be available soon.


I like your signature....:-)

Just think on this: Ms. Mead was duped by the islanders because she wanted to believe the nonsense that they trolled her with about their lives. Especially the sex.
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Message 1858745 - Posted: 31 Mar 2017, 23:26:44 UTC - in response to Message 1858740.  

Just think on this: Ms. Mead was duped by the islanders because she wanted to believe the nonsense that they trolled her with about their lives. Especially the sex.




A person doesn't have to be perfect to make a great quotation. :^)
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Message 1858748 - Posted: 31 Mar 2017, 23:29:07 UTC - in response to Message 1858740.  

Just think on this: Ms. Mead was duped by the islanders because she wanted to believe the nonsense that they trolled her with about their lives. Especially the sex.

Trolled her? Trolling is making statements to provoke a negative response.
Story telling was part of their culture, she was most interested in the stories about sex, so those were the type of stories they told her.
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Message 1858750 - Posted: 31 Mar 2017, 23:30:36 UTC - in response to Message 1858710.  

[quote]The ONLY frustrating part for me is seeing all you newbies, within the last 5 - 10 years, that have 3, 4, 5 TIMES as many work units done than I do :-(


Ha-ha! I've got 18 years on this project (pre-dating BOINC) and I'm only a 6.5M credits. Still, that puts me in the top 1.05% worldwide, though only for my longevity. I've never had access to anything more powerful than modest consumer hardware.

I'm working to move up the ranks -- I'm in a new job where I have a 4 processor Xeon server, (32 cores total) with an nVidia card installed. I use it for work, however, CPU utilization is in the 1% range. Just last week I installed BOINC -- I've been running it at 25-33% during the day due to fan noise (and keeping this side project under the radar) and 100% 8pm-8am, plus all weekend. My average credits/day jumped from about 5,500 to over 14,000 and the average has not yet leveled out.

Just overnight last night, I ran out of work except a few for the GPU and just ran out of those.

"I'm all rev'ed up with no place to go."
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Message 1858754 - Posted: 31 Mar 2017, 23:36:13 UTC - in response to Message 1858675.  

Might have taken thousands of years for a message to have reached us so a couple of weeks of lost data isn't much in the scheme of life :)

Ah, but we have snow in the forecast for tonight and I need the heat ! :) :)

It should be easy enough to get more heat by choosing a backup BOINC project to run while SETI@home is not available, then go through the normal procedure of adding that project but assign it a zero percentage of the time on your computer so that your computer will only download tasks from the backup project when it can't get any from SETI@home.
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Message 1858764 - Posted: 31 Mar 2017, 23:57:40 UTC - in response to Message 1858754.  
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Might have taken thousands of years for a message to have reached us so a couple of weeks of lost data isn't much in the scheme of life :)

Ah, but we have snow in the forecast for tonight and I need the heat ! :) :)

It should be easy enough to get more heat by choosing a backup BOINC project to run while SETI@home is not available, then go through the normal procedure of adding that project but assign it a zero percentage of the time on your computer so that your computer will only download tasks from the backup project when it can't get any from SETI@home.

Funny you should mention that ...
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Message 1858776 - Posted: 1 Apr 2017, 0:29:37 UTC - in response to Message 1858750.  

and keeping this side project under the radar



Rick Spies, if your employer hasn't authorized that, it is against the rules here and could very well cost you your job.
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Message 1858778 - Posted: 1 Apr 2017, 0:40:51 UTC - in response to Message 1858633.  
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Status update:

The checks are still running but should be finished within a few more hours.

The worst case scenario is probably restoring from a backup either one or two weeks old, so we lose two weeks of processing. I'm still hopeful that we can avoid that. Best case scenario is that we can snip out the problem areas and only lose a few pulses.

Well that didn't happen. Oh well.
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Message 1858795 - Posted: 1 Apr 2017, 1:18:19 UTC

I have 17 years now, and this isn't the first time thinks have gone wrong, just the nature of the beast. I'll be hanging around for many years to come. Hope you guys find the problem. Good luck.
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Message 1858809 - Posted: 1 Apr 2017, 1:55:40 UTC - in response to Message 1858776.  

and keeping this side project under the radar



Rick Spies, if your employer hasn't authorized that, it is against the rules here and could very well cost you your job.

I agree 100%
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Message 1858818 - Posted: 1 Apr 2017, 2:37:33 UTC

Thank you for the much needed update Eric.
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Message 1858867 - Posted: 1 Apr 2017, 5:40:38 UTC - in response to Message 1858764.  

Might have taken thousands of years for a message to have reached us so a couple of weeks of lost data isn't much in the scheme of life :)

Ah, but we have snow in the forecast for tonight and I need the heat ! :) :)

It should be easy enough to get more heat by choosing a backup BOINC project to run while SETI@home is not available, then go through the normal procedure of adding that project but assign it a zero percentage of the time on your computer so that your computer will only download tasks from the backup project when it can't get any from SETI@home.

Funny you should mention that ...
Cold feet have always been a great motivator.

Yeah, that's true.
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Message 1858996 - Posted: 1 Apr 2017, 19:54:52 UTC - in response to Message 1858776.  
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and keeping this side project under the radar

...if your employer hasn't authorized that, it is against the rules here and could very well cost you your job.

I'm not concerned. There is a Seti@Home team for the company with close to 1000 members using more than 2500 computers which have generated more than 600M credits. Still, you are making me think about it.
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Message 1859066 - Posted: 1 Apr 2017, 23:30:22 UTC - in response to Message 1858996.  

and keeping this side project under the radar

...if your employer hasn't authorized that, it is against the rules here and could very well cost you your job.

I'm not concerned. There is a Seti@Home team for the company with close to 1000 members using more than 2500 computers which have generated more than 600M credits. Still, you are making me think about it.

In that case I have one question why are you "keeping this side project under the radar" if the company has a team?
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Message 1859071 - Posted: 1 Apr 2017, 23:56:51 UTC - in response to Message 1859066.  

and keeping this side project under the radar

...if your employer hasn't authorized that, it is against the rules here and could very well cost you your job.

I'm not concerned. There is a Seti@Home team for the company with close to 1000 members using more than 2500 computers which have generated more than 600M credits. Still, you are making me think about it.

In that case I have one question why are you "keeping this side project under the radar" if the company has a team?

Maybe it's time to highlight the NEZ fallout again.

Cheers.
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Message 1859076 - Posted: 2 Apr 2017, 0:21:56 UTC - in response to Message 1859071.  

Maybe it's time to highlight the NEZ fallout again.

Even if you have permission and the authority to run BOINC on work computers, get it in writing in case someone comes along that wants to get rid of you.
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Message 1859080 - Posted: 2 Apr 2017, 0:49:30 UTC - in response to Message 1859076.  

Maybe it's time to highlight the NEZ fallout again.

Even if you have permission and the authority to run BOINC on work computers, get it in writing in case someone comes along that wants to get rid of you.

Excellent point.
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Message 1859088 - Posted: 2 Apr 2017, 1:18:37 UTC - in response to Message 1859071.  

and keeping this side project under the radar

...if your employer hasn't authorized that, it is against the rules here and could very well cost you your job.

I'm not concerned. There is a Seti@Home team for the company with close to 1000 members using more than 2500 computers which have generated more than 600M credits. Still, you are making me think about it.

In that case I have one question why are you "keeping this side project under the radar" if the company has a team?

Maybe it's time to highlight the NEZ fallout again.

Cheers.


. . Reading through all the stuff from that period it seems NEZ was setup to a large extent. More a political scapegoat then a villain. But it does highlight the risks of implementing BOINC/Seti in an environment which you do not own.

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