Interesting indeed... but, are they able to determine if a CPU has been overclocked or not, should a failed one be returned for replacement? CPUs seem pretty resilient these days and in my experience it's the motherboard that suffers due to prolonged overclocks.

Well, that's generally been my experience as well.
But this CPU is down to 14nm architecture, and might not be as forgiving as the older ones that I have pushed hard.
It does not matter if Intel can determine anything. Buying the insurance package basically tells them that you ARE intending to overclock the CPU. That is exactly the point of it.
The problem would be if you try to claim the standard warranty which only covers operation at Intel's published specifications for the chip.

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I don't know if that would be money well spent. All current CPU designs by AMD and Intel have built-in self protections features. If they detect a harmful condition, they either downclock themselves or shut off entirely. The type of damage that a typical overclock causes is not the end all frequency achieved but by the amount of voltage applied over long times that causes electron depletion's in the substrates. What that typically causes is not total failure but the inability to hit the higher clocks at the same voltages that were achieved in the first year of life. What you need to do is to just back off the voltage at a lower clock than you had initially.

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Well, all forms of insurance are a type of gamble, now aren't they?
Planning on running the chippy for a long time at a high OC.
And I am figuring the 14nm architecture into that.
Smaller and smaller barriers for those little electrons to jump across and wreak havoc.

And I have a reputation of getting those little electrons a bit more excited than usual.................................
Meow.

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Well I just looked at the linked page finally. For $35 I say heck yeah, that would be a good investment if the chip degrades. I was thinking the cost was a lot higher.

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Well I just looked at the linked page finally. For $35 I say heck yeah, that would be a good investment if the chip degrades. I was thinking the cost was a lot higher.

That's why I thought it was a reasonable deal for me.
Meow!

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With most high-end Intel cpu's going for sale in the +$300 range, the insurance cost is 1/10 the replacement cost. So I can see the cost/benefit ratio being appealing.

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Yes, it does not cover all processors.
But it covers what I am running.

Meow.

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The SF Opera is doing Turandot currently and I was lucky enough to be able to attend last night's performance with a neighbor.

Mark, I know you are an opera fan and I totally get why. I go to about one opera a year, budget permitting. Sometimes I drag Eric along. Sometimes, like last night, I just go with a friend. (Eric was having an equally enjoyable evening of video games, football and beer.)

I find that if I spend much time thinking about whether or not an opera plot is believable, it will make me absolutely crazy.

If I spend much time trying to judge an opera in terms of politically correct parameters (especially this particular war horse of an opera!!!) it will also make me crazy.

But if I just sit back in my seat and let the pageantry do its intended job of washing over and around the audience, then a little opera, taken in moderation, makes for one heck of a theatrical experience.

Modern divas are not as big as they used to be.

The SF Opera is doing Turandot currently and I was lucky enough to be able to attend last night's performance with a neighbor.

Mark, I know you are an opera fan and I totally get why. I go to about one opera a year, budget permitting. Sometimes I drag Eric along. Sometimes, like last night, I just go with a friend. (Eric was having an equally enjoyable evening of video games, football and beer.)

I find that if I spend much time thinking about whether or not an opera plot is believable, it will make me absolutely crazy.

If I spend much time trying to judge an opera in terms of politically correct parameters (especially this particular war horse of an opera!!!) it will also make me crazy.

But if I just sit back in my seat and let the pageantry do its intended job of washing over and around the audience, then a little opera, taken in moderation, makes for one heck of a theatrical experience.

Well, Angela, you picked one of my favorites for sure. Especially when Luciano Pavarotti sang his part.
I would like to see it again one day.
Thank you for sharing that, and I am pleased that you had a wonderful time of it.
Meownessundorma.

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La Scala will open on December 7 with "Andrea Chenier" by Umberto Giordano, Riccardo Chailly conducting. I don't know much about this opera, but there is a Russian soprano (Anna Netrebko) at Maria Callas level. It will be broadcast by RAI Channel 23.
Tullio

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Most operas have a very loose plot behind it all. It's just a container for the songs that have been written. Formal Italian stuff leaves me cold, but the Gilbert & Sullivan light opera ones are quite entertaining.

But of course it ain't over until the fat lady sings!!

I very much enjoy formal opera, but the Gilbert and Sullivan operettas are surely great fun!!

I was introduced to both classic and light opera at an early age by my dearly departed Uncle Don. He spent a fair amount of his youth in New York and was heavily into that scene in those days.
When he had his ice cream store in Milwaukee, he always had the Met playing on his radio when we went to visit him.
I still remember him very fondly, and still thank him for introducing me to such wonderful music when I was young.

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Well Mr Kittyman, any updates on how life is treating you? Must be a happier bunny now that work is flowing again.

How nice of you to ask, Chris.
Yes, much happier with Seti work available again.

Things are going rather well for me. Work is good. Playtime is good.
Been happily busy with my new computer tweaking things up here and there.
Got some liquid cooling toys coming for the CPU. And some liquid coolers to install on my GPUs.
It has been running very well. RAC was nice before Seti had that downtime.
Rebalanced my 401k this morning to get out of the stock market before the crash that the kitties tell me is coming.
Toothless is happy and running very well.
The kitties are still bright and bouncy, although Purrball does not see too much these days due to her eyes clouding over with cataracts. But she still gets around just fine.
Still loving the black hair look. Due for another refresh on the 22nd.
Oh, and I shaved my beard off.
Pretty much fought off the cold that was dogging me for almost 2 weeks.
Oral surgery just in healing mode now, waiting for the bone implants to heal and strengthen.

I think that's about all the news fit to mew.

Meowmeowmeow!

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Assassin's Kitten's

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LOL....cute little assassin kitties! What a way to go....................
Meow.

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Good news all round from the kittyman, yay!!

Thank again, Chris.
Yes, the kittyman is pretty bright and bouncy as of late.
And that's a very good thing.

Meow!

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Oral surgery just in healing mode now, waiting for the bone implants to heal and strengthen.

Another excellent payoff for your quitting smoking... recently I happened to find a study that showed that only 4% of implants fail in non-smokers, but 15% in smokers. Smoking also complicates and increases healing time in just about every dental/oral surgery procedure... it's always the first thing asked when assessing contraindications.

Hope you're sticking with it of course. :^)

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Oral surgery just in healing mode now, waiting for the bone implants to heal and strengthen.

Another excellent payoff for your quitting smoking... recently I happened to find a study that showed that only 4% of implants fail in non-smokers, but 15% in smokers. Smoking also complicates and increases healing time in just about every dental/oral surgery procedure... it's always the first thing asked when assessing contraindications.

Hope you're sticking with it of course. :^)

I'll admit I have been cheating a bit.
Signing up for a course offered through my work health insurance.
It's from the American Lung Association and has toll free consultation numbers to call for support.
I AM doing much better, but of course not smoking at all is the true goal. And I shall get there.

Meow.

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Great idea to sign up for the smoking cessation course!

Wishing you rapid healing and wonderful health through the new year.

Great idea to sign up for the smoking cessation course!

Wishing you rapid healing and wonderful health through the new year.

Well, thank you, Angela.
Best wishes for yourself and Eric as well.
Meowmeowmeow!

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