Maybe we should re-open a new thread for this topic and I'd be more willing to hash it out again

Sounds like a good idea and keep this thread about tRump Care.<ed>and if the mods have time to move the posts, thanks in advance.

I see the AARP is urging its members to call their congress people and demand a no vote. Something about a $6,000+ increase on health care costs if you are over 50.

tRump is correct about one thing though. No matter which way the vote goes, the democrats will control congress in two years.

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I see the AARP is urging its members to call their congress people and demand a no vote. Something about a $6,000+ increase on health care costs if you are over 50.

I've never understood what AARP is and how it helps, plus I thought a person had to be official retirement age to be a member.

I'm 48, and retired in the sense I am a 24/7 in-home caregiver for my mother. I didn't get any break on insurance with an Obama administration, and I don't expect any through Trump, either.

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The mind is a weird and mysterious place

I see the AARP is urging its members to call their congress people and demand a no vote. Something about a $6,000+ increase on health care costs if you are over 50.

I've never understood what AARP is and how it helps, plus I thought a person had to be official retirement age to be a member.

Age 50

I'm 48, and retired in the sense I am a 24/7 in-home caregiver for my mother. I didn't get any break on insurance with an Obama administration, and I don't expect any through Trump, either.

Under Rump I don't expect insurance will be available at any price.

It does look like a few republican congressman have come to their senses and realize a yes vote is a vote to join the ranks of the unemployed.

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No vote on the American Healthcare-destroying Act tonight. Guess they aren't screwing the poor enough with this plan. Back to the drawing board.

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#resist

It is 50. When you reach that age. There will be a letter, in your mailbox, from AARP.

BTW: Worse than that (AARP saying you are 'old'). Wait until you are 65. You will receive your Medicare Card from The Federal Government. Officially confirming you are... Old :(

No it is much worse. At 64+ you have to call the federal government and request they send you that card on your next birthday. If you don't there all all manner of nasty consequences!

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It does look like a few republican congressman have come to their senses and realize a yes vote is a vote to join the ranks of the unemployed.

On health care and the Republicans this reminds me of the story about the dog chasing a car and catches it.

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Just been pulled.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39387550
WP - GOP health-care bill: House Republican leaders abruptly pull their rewrite of the nation’s health-care law

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Egg → face.

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Yep another failure to deliver.

I wonder how Wall St will react this time.

Cheers.

It seems that the Don has his excuse for losing already, I’m going to lose by one vote and then I’m going to blame the truckers.

He looks to be a natural behind the wheel though.



Cheers.

Looks like a 5 year old throwing a tantrum when his mummy says "Come down from there".

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Looks like a 5 year old throwing a tantrum when his mummy says "Come down from there".

It does give an excellent example of the old, "nut behind the wheel", saying though doesn't it? :-D

Cheers.

Unfortunately for the Democtats and their supporters. Who are living in an Alternate Universe.

They now OWN Obama Care. Unless THEY come up with a Bill to fix this, soon to collapse Health Insurance Plan. The blame will fall completly opon them.

Or as Trump may corrctly observe: Our plan failed to pass. What is yours?

Explain why it is the Democrats that have to come up with a new plan?
For 7 years the Republicans have been saying how bad ACA is and when they got back in power they would have a new, better plan. Yet they didn't, the plan that was put forward never had a chance of being passed by the Republicans. Because they are a divided party, and the hard liners were not going to accept the wishes of the moderates and vice versa, and a middle plan was going to get dissenters from both wings.

What it really shows is that for all his boasting Trump is not a successful businessman, he is the owner of a family business where he can dictate "my way or the highway". He has never been a CEO and deal with a board of directors and get them to agree on a plan. He did try it once in Atlanta and we all know where that ended, and he has never entered the casino business again.

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We know it was RyanCare but Trump put a lot of time effort behind it in the last few weeks and if it had passed it would have become TrumpCare. Just like RomneyCare became ObamaCare.
edit] If ObamaCare fails then their are a lot of Republicans that are up for re-election in the half terms who are going to panic. Or haven't you read the news recently.

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News flash, obamacare is not failing.

There are some states where the marketplace only has one insurer, and in those situations yes there needs to be more choices for people. But in the rest of the populated areas of this country, the insurers on the marketplace have already worked through a lot of the growing pains and some are starting to profit again too.

I am willing to bet the replacement place wouldn't ever get enough votes because plain and simple it's not as good as what we have right now. That and you still have the healthcare lobbies out there who aren't going to easily accept smaller pools of customers...

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#resist

Ya know.........maybe Trump is right.
Us old folks should not be cared for in our old age.
For what?
To suck off of the system we have paid for all of our lives?
What kind of fools we were. We were not able to opt-out. It has been taken out of my paycheck every day since I started working for a living at the age of 16. . And I may not be able to get a cent out of it all,.

I could live rather grandly if all of the money I have paid into the system for all of those working years would suddenly appear in my bank account.

But, that is not the way the 'system' was originally envisioned.
My tax dollars were supposed to pay for those that came before me.
And future tax dollars were supposed to pay for MY retirement.
I can see this all crashing down now, and those who have paid and paid and paid into the system are gonna be given the high hard one when their time comes due. It was all spent and wasted upon so many things the democrats demanded of the system and now it is all gone.
I suppose I am going to die without a penny to my name, all given to the government in the sake of perhaps having a decent life to live when I retired. Oh, how that money would have done if put into my personal account for all of those years. I would have thousands upon thousands to spend upon my retirement from the workforce,.

Seeing as I have paid into the 'system' for what, since I was 16yo and I am now 60yo..............that would be a rather grand sum.

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

So, why are you a Trump supporter?
As he wants to cut health care so he can give tax cuts to the rich.

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So, why are you a Trump supporter?
As he wants to cut health care so he can give tax cuts to the rich.

I think that I was mislead.
I do support many of his platforms.
I think he has gone wrong on this one.

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster