I'm sure someone will toss you a 'chute ;-)

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Bob Smith
Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society)
Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?

Hi,
Actually you can not talk at a free fall. The wind is too noisy (30/30).

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To overcome Heisenbergs:
"You can't always get what you want / but if you try sometimes you just might find / you get what you need." -- Rolling Stones

And empty now since many hours (the last ones were CPU tasks and iGPU tasks, the 980 has been dry for almost 24 hours).
Now the RAC only lives on 402 Pendings, and when they're all validated, the free fall will begin.

Actually, the free fall will begin as soon as you stop returning finished WUs, as I found out when one of my machines died when I went to Phoenix a few weeks ago. A machine that had been doing something like 60K RAC went to < 5K in a very few days, even when having several hundred pendings when it died (bad auxiliary CPU-to-MB connection (Molex); the MB 24-pin connector burnt up one of the 12v pins trying to carry the needed power)

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And empty now since many hours (the last ones were CPU tasks and iGPU tasks, the 980 has been dry for almost 24 hours).
Now the RAC only lives on 402 Pendings, and when they're all validated, the free fall will begin.

Actually, the free fall will begin as soon as you stop returning finished WUs, as I found out when one of my machines died when I went to Phoenix a few weeks ago. A machine that had been doing something like 60K RAC went to < 5K in a very few days, even when having several hundred pendings when it died (bad auxiliary CPU-to-MB connection (Molex); the MB 24-pin connector burnt up one of the 12v pins trying to carry the needed power)

Ooh,
I know the smell of that.

(I've had to RMA a couple of boards, PSUs, ... because of the burnt 24 pin X in the middle of the connector.
The MoBo must have a good supply of current for the PCI slots. And the CPU too.
Workstation class (ASUS) mobos and Rampage series too have what is required. Some other boards may have that too.)

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To overcome Heisenbergs:
"You can't always get what you want / but if you try sometimes you just might find / you get what you need." -- Rolling Stones

I will shut down my GTX 980 Strix computer https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7585453 , after
It finished all tasks on board. Too little feedback, and too little results from this project, to make it worth the cost of running it.

I'll leave a 4 watt Android running though, just to have enough RAC to be able to pester you here on the boards. :-)
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7944083

. . Hey there Fidel :)

. . Sorry to hear that, that is a good GPU and will be missed from the "collective".

. . I hope you have fun.

Stephen

<shrug>

RAC still dropping. Very proud.
Thank you.

Sten that is so cool I think you deserve a pound of lutefisk.

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Don't worry Sten, I've fired up my wintertime rig to take up the slack. ;-)

Cheers.

Don't worry Sten, I've fired up my wintertime rig to take up the slack. ;-)

Cheers.

Wiggo do you want a pound of lutefisk also?

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Don't worry Sten, I've fired up my wintertime rig to take up the slack. ;-)

Cheers.

Wiggo do you want a pound of lutefisk also?

I'll pass as Sten may need it.

Cheers.

RAC will drop faster now. Aborted all tasks on the 4 watt Android device too.
No device crunching main from now on.

Perhaps additional saving will be aquired by shutting device down even in case it will make impossible to express proud of dropping RAC on these boards. But what a little sacrifice for such great ideal as saving electricity ;)

Actually too many forget that SETI (as whole BOINC) is "piggyback" project that gladly will take processing power you can give, not demand it.
If you feel cost of running 24/7 too high just leave processing only while PC power up for other needs.
All these demonstrative steps like " I will shut my PC because SETI didn't send me greating card on sunday" are... well you know.

IMHO on current stage bottleneck is manpower. It's not just some labour that anyone can do. Some specific skills required and too small number of mans with required skills involved.
Additional money could increase share of time those of a few can dedicate to SETI, but in no way this share can be made bigger than N*24*7 hours per week where N~2-3. Some distinctly higher level of funding required to hire other professionals. Or some with corresponding skill and knowledge could volunteer (not in money-defined world, of course...).

Even access to Atlas will not help enough until corresponding code will be written (and code can be written only after corresponding data analysis algorithm will be devised).
So, the single thing all others w/o corresponding skills can do is to increase mentioned time share by direct money donation and continue to accumulate pre-processed data in usual way.

Dr. Anderson's blog regarding Nebula progress completely covers all feedback we can hope to have on this stage. It's "little" more complex work than credits accounting and there is lack of any real support/ideas from outside so up to now that blog only giveaway of his time w/o useful feedback from community, think about that also.

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SETI apps news
We're not gonna fight them. We're gonna transcend them.

Too little feedback, and too little results from this project, to make it worth the cost of running it.

Can't refrain from noticing, that there were years w/o any "results". But currently, when Nebula actively developing and some signal candidate are available for public browsing cited quote doesn't seem correct at all.

https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=81237#1858461

What is actually observable is the very little interest of SETI project participants in actual results we starting to get.
Maybe I miss it but ... where discussion of top candidates?....
Where some attempts to correlate candidates with known facts about corresponding sky areas? Where all this?! Where FEEDBACK FROM COMMUNITY ????
All I see are demands....

P.S. Whole this "Number crunching" part of forum we used to check constantly more than 15 years is very important part of project indeed. Important, but it's only PRE-PROCESSING part. All our many years improvements both in hardware we use and in software we write are aimed to get MORE pre-processed data accumulated. But now there are first portions of POST-PROCESSED data appears. Very exciting thing IMHO. Definitely not right time to express pessimism about this project :P

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SETI apps news
We're not gonna fight them. We're gonna transcend them.

P.S. Whole this "Number crunching" part of forum we used to check constantly more than 15 years is very important part of project indeed. Important, but it's only PRE-PROCESSING part. All our many years improvements both in hardware we use and in software we write are aimed to get MORE pre-processed data accumulated. But now there are first portions of POST-PROCESSED data appears. Very exciting thing IMHO. Definitely not right time to express pessimism about this project :P

Exactly. AFAIK this is the object of the project and now we are able to start pursuing it that is very, very exciting.

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Sten you have always shown good taste.

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If the "splat" sound came from any typing device you had; I would be impressed :)

OMG Sten's just chucked a water melon out of the window

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Bob Smith
Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society)
Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?

OMG Sten's just chucked a water melon out of the window

But that was done in good taste.

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mother of all watermelons

Don't worry about it Sten, I've got you covered while keeping myself warm.. ;-)

Cheers.

I wonder how high RAC you need to have, in order to be able to post?

IIRC 1, if you get there you might be rewarded with a pound of lutefisk.

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I wonder how high RAC you need to have, in order to be able to post?

IIRC 1, if you get there you might be rewarded with a pound of lutefisk.

OK, thank you. However, I'd rather have a can of Surströmming

Do you go outside to open the can?

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