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Message 1850009 - Posted: 19 Feb 2017, 18:48:01 UTC - in response to Message 1850002.  

OB:Did tRump sin when he talked about the FAUX attack in Sweden?

No. He mentioned an incident that has not occured here together with his mentioning of terror attacks in other parts of Europe.
Why?
http://www.thelocal.se/20170219/sweden-wants-trump-to-explain-mysterious-last-night-in-sweden-incident
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Message 1850011 - Posted: 19 Feb 2017, 18:52:55 UTC

Well that's the "sin" issue taken care, now just two left.

Clyde, with your love of the constitution, does it not say in the 2nd paragraph:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

So can you provide a clear & understood explanation for your term:

"The Far Superior People"?

The text emboldened suggests a deity involved, so how can you be an atheist loving such a document?
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Message 1850012 - Posted: 19 Feb 2017, 18:53:06 UTC - in response to Message 1850009.  

Very unfriendly of Sweden, how sad, very very sad.
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Message 1850014 - Posted: 19 Feb 2017, 19:06:12 UTC - in response to Message 1849988.  

When I announced my atheism to 2 local friends about 1.5 years ago, one engaged me in a long conversation. I do not know if he believes, but he argued that there are still things that could be called evil. Can there be a definition of evil acts without reference to religion?


I absolutely think you can define 'evil' acts without a reference to religion. Of course the definition of what is wrong and what is not is obviously going to change depending on a persons beliefs- religious or otherwise.
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Message 1850018 - Posted: 19 Feb 2017, 19:32:08 UTC - in response to Message 1850011.  
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Well that's the "sin" issue taken care, now just two left.

Clyde, with your love of the constitution, does it not say in the 2nd paragraph:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

So can you provide a clear & understood explanation for your term:

"The Far Superior People"?

The text emboldened suggests a deity involved, so how can you be an atheist loving such a document?


Take a look at Spinoza's God, and you'll see that the line from the US [edit]Declaration of Independence[/edit] need not be incompatible with an atheistic view.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1850019 - Posted: 19 Feb 2017, 19:41:53 UTC - in response to Message 1850018.  

As you've now become Clyde's mouthpiece & giving him an out for the 2nd point, care to answer the 1st?
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Message 1850033 - Posted: 19 Feb 2017, 21:50:52 UTC - in response to Message 1850019.  

As you've now become Clyde's mouthpiece & giving him an out for the 2nd point, care to answer the 1st?

Thanks Sirius, though I'm not anybody's mouthpiece. No idea what CLYDE means by "far superior people" (not even sure which post that's from). There are others here that suggest the text you referenced implies the US was founded as a christian nation, and is incompatible with atheists, hopefully that's been put to rest.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1850050 - Posted: 19 Feb 2017, 23:28:05 UTC - in response to Message 1850033.  

There are others here that suggest the text you referenced implies the US was founded as a christian nation, and is incompatible with atheists
Please tell 45.
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Message 1850056 - Posted: 20 Feb 2017, 0:24:58 UTC - in response to Message 1850011.  
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Well that's the "sin" issue taken care, now just two left.

Clyde, with your love of the constitution, does it not say in the 2nd paragraph:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

So can you provide a clear & understood explanation for your term:

"The Far Superior People"?

The text emboldened suggests a deity involved, so how can you be an atheist loving such a document?

Just because a Jewish Rabbi, who believed in a Deity, said "Let he who without sin...". Doesn't mean that any Atheist, or Mature, Intelligent and Tolerant Person, would reject what he said.

To reject the belief in Free Speech, Freedom of Association, Representative Government, et al. Because the person, or group believes in a Deity. Would be the height of stupidity.

Sirius... You agree?
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Message 1850063 - Posted: 20 Feb 2017, 0:33:43 UTC - in response to Message 1850056.  

Well that's the "sin" issue taken care, now just two left.

Clyde, with your love of the constitution, does it not say in the 2nd paragraph:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

So can you provide a clear & understood explanation for your term:

"The Far Superior People"?

The text emboldened suggests a deity involved, so how can you be an atheist loving such a document?

Just because a Jewish Rabbi, who believed in a Deity, said "Let he who without sin...". Doesn't mean that any Atheist, or Mature, Intelligent and Tolerant Person, would reject what he said.

To reject the belief in Free Speech, Freedom of Association, Representative Government, et al. Because the person, or group believes in a Deity. Would be the height of stupidity.

Sirius... You agree?

You didn't answer the question.
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Message 1850066 - Posted: 20 Feb 2017, 0:37:22 UTC - in response to Message 1850063.  
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Well that's the "sin" issue taken care, now just two left.

Clyde, with your love of the constitution, does it not say in the 2nd paragraph:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

So can you provide a clear & understood explanation for your term:

"The Far Superior People"?

The text emboldened suggests a deity involved, so how can you be an atheist loving such a document?

Just because a Jewish Rabbi, who believed in a Deity, said "Let he who without sin...". Doesn't mean that any Atheist, or Mature, Intelligent and Tolerant Person, would reject what he said.

To reject the belief in Free Speech, Freedom of Association, Representative Government, et al. Because the person, or group believes in a Deity. Would be the height of stupidity.

Sirius... You agree?

You didn't answer the question.

Question: "The text emboldened suggests a deity involved, so how can you be an atheist loving such a document"?

Was answered.

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Message 1850072 - Posted: 20 Feb 2017, 0:45:56 UTC - in response to Message 1850063.  

You didn't answer the question.
Hell, his hell hasn't frozen over yet.
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Message 1850075 - Posted: 20 Feb 2017, 0:50:17 UTC - in response to Message 1850072.  
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You didn't answer the question.
Hell, his hell hasn't frozen over yet.

Gary... An incorrect statement.

Question: The text emboldened suggests a deity involved, so how can you be an atheist loving such a document?

Answer: Just because a Jewish Rabbi, who believed in a Deity, said "Let he who without sin...". Doesn't mean that any Atheist, or Mature, Intelligent and Tolerant Person, would reject what he said.

To reject the belief in Free Speech, Freedom of Association, Representative Government, et al. Because the person, or group believes in a Deity. Would be the height of stupidity.

Gary... Why do you believe I did not answer that specific question?
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Message 1850080 - Posted: 20 Feb 2017, 0:54:41 UTC - in response to Message 1850075.  

So can you provide a clear & understood explanation for your term:

"The Far Superior People"?

Was the question.
Now answer it.
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Message 1850090 - Posted: 20 Feb 2017, 1:05:37 UTC - in response to Message 1850080.  

So can you provide a clear & understood explanation for your term:

"The Far Superior People"?

Was the question.
Now answer it.

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Your Order is what I am referencing.

WinterKnight...

Since I am not Inferior to you, or others like you. I, and another people you Order. Reject your belief in your Right to Order.
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Message 1850093 - Posted: 20 Feb 2017, 1:14:31 UTC - in response to Message 1850090.  

I am not Inferior to you

Then start acting like a normal sociable person. or I might just have to disagree with that statement.
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Message 1850099 - Posted: 20 Feb 2017, 1:29:30 UTC - in response to Message 1850093.  

I am not Inferior to you

Then start acting like a normal sociable person. or I might just have to disagree with that statement.

I have never Ordered you. Never believing I have that Right.

You Ordered me. Believing you have that Right.

Who is not acting like a normal sociable person?
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Message 1850171 - Posted: 20 Feb 2017, 11:16:09 UTC - in response to Message 1850099.  

Nobody has ordered you to do anything. All that was done was to ask for a clear & understood answer to your statement:

We disagree what should be done after The Far Superior People consign them to the Toilet of History


You've said that you're not inferior to anyone. Well, neither are you superior.
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Message 1850270 - Posted: 20 Feb 2017, 21:29:03 UTC - in response to Message 1850171.  

Nobody has ordered you to do anything. All that was done was to ask for a clear & understood answer to your statement:

We disagree what should be done after The Far Superior People consign them to the Toilet of History


You've said that you're not inferior to anyone. Well, neither are you superior.

Sirius B...

Of course I am not. I do not believe I have any Right to Order anyone.

Since I never said, nor inferred I was Superior to anyone.

The foundation of your statement is very interesting.
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Message 1850279 - Posted: 20 Feb 2017, 21:43:33 UTC - in response to Message 1850270.  
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Nobody has ordered you to do anything. All that was done was to ask for a clear & understood answer to your statement:

We disagree what should be done after The Far Superior People consign them to the Toilet of History


You've said that you're not inferior to anyone. Well, neither are you superior.

Sirius B...

Of course I am not. I do not believe I have any Right to Order anyone.

Since I never said, nor inferred I was Superior to anyone.

The foundation of your statement is very interesting.

I find that VERY interesting!

The foundation is underlined - Are you now saying that wasn't you?
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