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Message 1913724 - Posted: 18 Jan 2018, 14:05:41 UTC - in response to Message 1913667.  
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The USA internally, is not a singular country. But a Federation of Sovereign States.

Not quite.
The USA is a federation/union of partially self-governing states, not sovereign states.
Like Germany and Russia.
In a federation, the self-governing status of the component states, as well as the division of power between them and the central government, is typically constitutionally entrenched and may not be altered by a unilateral decision of either party, the states or the federal political body. Alternatively, federation is a form of government in which sovereign power is formally divided between a central authority and a number of constituent regions so that each region retains some degree of control over its internal affairs.


btw. There are separatist movements in both Texas and California.
Not so successfully ones though :)
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Message 1913747 - Posted: 18 Jan 2018, 16:37:38 UTC - in response to Message 1913740.  

Having worked and lived in Germany. Their 'States' are not Sovereign States as with the USA.
Unless their actions involve Interstate Commerce. The Federal Government, there is no American Government, has very limited authority.
Just two of many examples. Think marijuana laws and Sanctuary Cities/States. If the laws are in conflict. Well, too bad.

Germany is not as big as the US is.
And there are no sovereign states in Germany.
And there are still no sovereign states in the US.
Germany and the USA is however sovereign states.

Just as Sweden is.
Or is it?
Ever heard of the Republic of Jämtland?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Jamtland
Or The Republic of Skåne?
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Message 1913760 - Posted: 18 Jan 2018, 17:30:36 UTC - in response to Message 1913740.  

The USA internally, is not a singular country. But a Federation of Sovereign States.

Not quite.
The USA is a federation/union of partially self-governing states, not sovereign states.
Like Germany and Russia.
In a federation, the self-governing status of the component states, as well as the division of power between them and the central government, is typically constitutionally entrenched and may not be altered by a unilateral decision of either party, the states or the federal political body. Alternatively, federation is a form of government in which sovereign power is formally divided between a central authority and a number of constituent regions so that each region retains some degree of control over its internal affairs.


btw. There are separatist movements in both Texas and California.
Not so successfully ones though :)

Add the separatist movement of New California from California.

•New California declares 'independence' from California in bid to become 51st state•

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/01/16/new-california-declares-independence-california-bid-become-51st-state/1036681001/

Nothing new.

Edit: Having worked and lived in Germany. Their 'States' are not Sovereign States as with the USA.

Unless their actions involve Interstate Commerce. The Federal Government, there is no American Government, has very limited authority.

Just two of many examples. Think marijuana laws and Sanctuary Cities/States. If the laws are in conflict. Well, too bad.


Apples and oranges.

'Sanctuary Cities/States'... Immigration is, per the US Constitution, the exclusive domain of the Federal Government. See Article I, Section 8.
To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization
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'marijuana laws'... Per the 10th Amendment, that is supposed to be a State power.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.


The US Constitution is silent on the regulation of various drugs. Therefore it is a State power, just like the regulation of the rest of Medicine is...
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Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.
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Message 1913766 - Posted: 18 Jan 2018, 18:01:56 UTC - in response to Message 1913740.  
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Edit: Having worked and lived in Germany. Their 'States' are not Sovereign States as with the USA.


The states of the United States are not sovereign either... sovereignty is "the full right and power of a governing body over itself, without any interference from outside sources or bodies." If they were, there would be no United States, but fifty independent nations. The 14th amendment of the Constitution guarantees this: "No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States.." et al. As a famous example, George Wallace and others who opposed integration and the civil rights movement as contrary to their states' laws found this out the hard way... (the 14th was adopted just after the civil war precisely to prevent states reinstituting slavery or equivalent under the guise of state law.) As MajorKong noted states do have authority to make their own laws via the 10th amendment for anything not covered by the Constitution, as long as they do not violate the rights granted to The People and responsibilities of the Federal government as spelled out in it.

....but then again I am a foreigner so could not possibly understand such intricacies. 😀
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Message 1913822 - Posted: 18 Jan 2018, 21:51:15 UTC - in response to Message 1913760.  

'marijuana laws'... Per the 10th Amendment, that is supposed to be a State power.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.


The US Constitution is silent on the regulation of various drugs. Therefore it is a State power, just like the regulation of the rest of Medicine is...

marijuana is a plant and one not native to the USA. So it had to be imported, er smuggled, into the USA. Crossing the international border is a power granted to the Federal Government.

Making sure that state Texas doesn't allow adulterated drugs to be shipped in interstate commerce is a power given to the Federal Government.

Now Texas making a green traffic signal meaning stop and a red one meaning go is permitted under the Tenth, except on Post Roads.
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Message 1913823 - Posted: 18 Jan 2018, 21:55:33 UTC - in response to Message 1913822.  
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marijuana is a plant and one not native to the USA.


Although most feral cannabis is descended from industrial hemp, migrating birds have been known to poop marijuana seeds that grow wild in warmer North American locations. If it were not for being illegal and thus destroyed, there would doubtless be native marijuana.

(It's native if nature does it. :^p)
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Message 1913826 - Posted: 18 Jan 2018, 22:08:29 UTC - in response to Message 1913823.  
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...migrating birds have been known to poop marijuana seeds that grow wild...
(It's native if nature does it. :^p)

Yes. I have even found marijuana plants growing in my backyard in Stockholm.

And in less than three months, the Canadian company Aurora Cannabis shares value has increased 348 percent.
The company is just one of several manufacturers of the drug-based drug, whose shares are traded in Sweden.

Thousands of Swedes buy cannabis shares
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CANADIAN CANNABIS COMPANIES SHARES DEVELOPMENT 3 MONTHS

Cannabis Wheaton Income Equity: + 483%
Aurora Cannabis: + 348%
Cannabis Wheaton Income Corp.: + 193%
Supreme Cannabis Company: + 106%
Harvest One Cannabis: 89%
Delta 9 Cannabis: + 4%

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Message 1913834 - Posted: 18 Jan 2018, 23:03:03 UTC - in response to Message 1913827.  

Sanctuary States and the Sanctuary Cities allowed by the States is another interesting Constitutional issue. Does the Federal Government have the Constitutional authority to force the Internal Sovereign States to notify them of crimes which are not crimes within the States.

If they do it is an unfunded mandate and wll sap resources that were intended to be spent elsewhere.
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Message 1913835 - Posted: 18 Jan 2018, 23:17:12 UTC - in response to Message 1913827.  
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If those arrested for State Crimes and would have been quickly released. Does the Federal Government have the Constitutional authority to force the States to increase the time of incarceration. In order for Federal Law Enforcement to arrest this person for non criminal acts within the States?
If so does the Federal Government have an obligation to pay for this incarceration? Or absent such an open purchase order can the State raise a middle finger to ICE?
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Message 1913836 - Posted: 18 Jan 2018, 23:31:32 UTC

Fake News: The USA is dumber than average.
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/51bb74b8e4b0139570ddf020/t/535fdfdbe4b032825e56cbf8/1398792155103/PIAAC+Results+Summary+Brochure_Final_041814.pdf
U.S. adults scored below the international average in all three domains.
Overall, U.S. adults scored slightly below the PIAAC international average in literacy, higher than only Poland,
Ireland, France, Italy, and Spain. In numeracy, the U.S. average was near the bottom of the rankings — only Italy and Spain scored lower than the United States.
In problem solving in technology-rich environments, the U.S. average was only slightly below the international average. However, we shared the lowest ranking with England and Northern Ireland in the United Kingdom, Estonia, Ireland, and Poland.

While a small percentage of adults in the United States perform at the highest levels in all three domains, a much greater percentage perform at the lowest levels.
The percentage of U.S. adults who scored at the highest levels in all three domains was similar to or only somewhat lower than the international average; however, the percentage of U.S. adults who scored at the lowest levels was among the largest in PIAAC. It is this disparity between the small proportion of adults whose skills are among the highest and the much greater proportion of adults whose skills are among the lowest that lowers the U.S. ranking among its peers.

Because 51 different education systems?
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Message 1913848 - Posted: 19 Jan 2018, 0:22:39 UTC - in response to Message 1913836.  

LOL. Thats real fake news.
Lies, damned lies, and statistics as Mark Twain once nicely put it:)
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Message 1913939 - Posted: 19 Jan 2018, 5:56:09 UTC

‘Worse Than Watergate’: ‘Shocking’ House Intel Memo Allegedly Reveals FISA Abuse by Senior DOJ and FBI Officials -- har...
Members of the House on Thursday said they viewed a “shocking” classified memo allegedly detailing abuse of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) by senior Justice Department and Federal Bureau of Investigations officials in relation to the investigation of the Trump campaign and called for it to be declassified and available to the public immediately.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/01/18/worse-than-watergate-shocking-house-intel-memo-allegedly-reveals-fisa-abuse-by-senior-doj-and-fbi-officials
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Message 1913946 - Posted: 19 Jan 2018, 6:32:47 UTC - in response to Message 1913939.  

‘Worse Than Watergate’: ‘Shocking’ House Intel Memo Allegedly Reveals FISA Abuse by Senior DOJ and FBI Officials -- har...

Shrub has consequences.
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Message 1913952 - Posted: 19 Jan 2018, 7:07:03 UTC - in response to Message 1913946.  

‘Worse Than Watergate’: ‘Shocking’ House Intel Memo Allegedly Reveals FISA Abuse by Senior DOJ and FBI Officials -- har...

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Abuse... har
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https://news.cgtn.com/news/33596a4d33677a6333566d54/share_p.html wrote:
A former Iranian army chief has accused Western spies of using lizards to “attract atomic waves” and spy on his country’s nuclear program.
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Message 1927843 - Posted: 2 Apr 2018, 21:50:50 UTC - in response to Message 1927840.  

That Sinclair thing has been in the works for some time, several months ago I fired off an email to them in protest about presenting an OPED which is their right as news.
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