Can there be a definition of sin without involving religion?

Can there be a definition of sin without involving religion?

Yes.

Can there be a definition of sin without involving religion?

Yes.

Care to give an example?

In a religious context, sin is the act of violating God's will by transgressing his commandments. Sin can also be viewed as any thought or action that endangers the ideal relationship between an individual and God; or as any diversion from the perceived ideal order for human living.

Source

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sin

or

any act regarded as such a transgression, especially a willful or deliberate violation of some religious or moral principle.

Source

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/sin

Can there be a definition of sin without involving religion?

Yes.

Care to give an example?

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sin
I know that the english word sin is mostly connected to religion.
But also to social behaviour.
Here it's called "Synd" from Saxon 'sundae' or 'sundia' with the original meaning of Old English 'crime, wrongdoing, wickedness'.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sundia

Can there be a definition of sin without involving religion?

Yes.

Care to give an example?

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sin
I know that the english word sin is mostly connected to religion.
But also to social behaviour.
Here it's called "Synd" from Saxon 'sundae' with the original meaning of Old English 'crime, wrongdoing, wickedness'.

One must be careful using the word crime. You first must remember that governments that are not also a religion are a very modern thing. So crime was a offense against the religion for thousands of years.
The same will apply to wrongdoing and wickedness. They are religious concepts. Just as good and evil are.

The atheist would use "desirable" and "undesirable" not "good" and "evil." As such he does not anthropomorphize them and imbue them with a God that controls everything and judges everything.

Jesus is purported to have said judge not lest you be judged*; obviously if you believe in a Abraham's god you must judge, as his god had** concepts of good and evil.


OB:Did tRump sin when he talked about the FAUX attack in Sweden?



*or some variation depending upon the "translation"
**Abraham's god died with Abraham.

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OB:Did tRump sin when he talked about the FAUX attack in Sweden?

No. He mentioned an incident that has not occured here together with his mentioning of terror attacks in other parts of Europe.
Why?
http://www.thelocal.se/20170219/sweden-wants-trump-to-explain-mysterious-last-night-in-sweden-incident

Well that's the "sin" issue taken care, now just two left.

Clyde, with your love of the constitution, does it not say in the 2nd paragraph:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

So can you provide a clear & understood explanation for your term:

"The Far Superior People"?

The text emboldened suggests a deity involved, so how can you be an atheist loving such a document?

Very unfriendly of Sweden, how sad, very very sad.

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When I announced my atheism to 2 local friends about 1.5 years ago, one engaged me in a long conversation. I do not know if he believes, but he argued that there are still things that could be called evil. Can there be a definition of evil acts without reference to religion?

I absolutely think you can define 'evil' acts without a reference to religion. Of course the definition of what is wrong and what is not is obviously going to change depending on a persons beliefs- religious or otherwise.

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#resist

Well that's the "sin" issue taken care, now just two left.

Clyde, with your love of the constitution, does it not say in the 2nd paragraph:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

So can you provide a clear & understood explanation for your term:

"The Far Superior People"?

The text emboldened suggests a deity involved, so how can you be an atheist loving such a document?

Take a look at Spinoza's God, and you'll see that the line from the US [edit]Declaration of Independence[/edit] need not be incompatible with an atheistic view.

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I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

As you've now become Clyde's mouthpiece & giving him an out for the 2nd point, care to answer the 1st?

As you've now become Clyde's mouthpiece & giving him an out for the 2nd point, care to answer the 1st?

Thanks Sirius, though I'm not anybody's mouthpiece. No idea what CLYDE means by "far superior people" (not even sure which post that's from). There are others here that suggest the text you referenced implies the US was founded as a christian nation, and is incompatible with atheists, hopefully that's been put to rest.

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I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

There are others here that suggest the text you referenced implies the US was founded as a christian nation, and is incompatible with atheists

Please tell 45.

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Well that's the "sin" issue taken care, now just two left.

Clyde, with your love of the constitution, does it not say in the 2nd paragraph:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

So can you provide a clear & understood explanation for your term:

"The Far Superior People"?

The text emboldened suggests a deity involved, so how can you be an atheist loving such a document?

Just because a Jewish Rabbi, who believed in a Deity, said "Let he who without sin...". Doesn't mean that any Atheist, or Mature, Intelligent and Tolerant Person, would reject what he said.

To reject the belief in Free Speech, Freedom of Association, Representative Government, et al. Because the person, or group believes in a Deity. Would be the height of stupidity.

Sirius... You agree?

You didn't answer the question.

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You didn't answer the question.

Hell, his hell hasn't frozen over yet.

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So can you provide a clear & understood explanation for your term:

"The Far Superior People"?

Was the question.
Now answer it.

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I am not Inferior to you

Then start acting like a normal sociable person. or I might just have to disagree with that statement.

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Nobody has ordered you to do anything. All that was done was to ask for a clear & understood answer to your statement:

We disagree what should be done after The Far Superior People consign them to the Toilet of History

You've said that you're not inferior to anyone. Well, neither are you superior.

Nobody has ordered you to do anything. All that was done was to ask for a clear & understood answer to your statement:

We disagree what should be done after The Far Superior People consign them to the Toilet of History

You've said that you're not inferior to anyone. Well, neither are you superior.

Sirius B...

Of course I am not. I do not believe I have any Right to Order anyone.

Since I never said, nor inferred I was Superior to anyone.

The foundation of your statement is very interesting.

I find that VERY interesting!

The foundation is underlined - Are you now saying that wasn't you?