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Message 1845061 - Posted: 29 Jan 2017, 4:44:17 UTC

Another 2 :-)

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Message 1845088 - Posted: 29 Jan 2017, 7:44:31 UTC
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Just thinking about inches and feet.
Why are not an inch called a thumb in english?
In many other European languages, the word for "inch" is the same as or derived from the word for "thumb", as a man's thumb is about an inch wide (and this was even sometimes used to define the inch). Examples include Afrikaans: duim; Catalan: polzada ("inch") and polze ("thumb"); Czech: palec; Danish and Norwegian: tomme ("inch") tommel ("thumb"); Dutch: duim; French: pouce; Hungarian: hüvelyk; Italian: pollice; Portuguese: polegada ("inch") and polegar ("thumb"); Slovak: palec; Spanish: pulgada ("inch") and pulgar ("thumb"); and Swedish: tum ("inch") and tumme ("thumb").

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Message 1845097 - Posted: 29 Jan 2017, 8:29:56 UTC

Either means one, neither means none, and not either equals neither. Or goes with either and nor goes with neither.

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Message 1845098 - Posted: 29 Jan 2017, 8:36:45 UTC

An inch (abbreviation: in or ″) is a unit of length in the imperial and United States customary systems of measurement now formally equal to  1⁄36 yard but usually understood as  1⁄12 of a foot. Derived from the Roman uncial.

An Anglo-Saxon unit of length was the barleycorn. After 1066, 1 inch was equal to 3 barleycorns, which continued to be its legal definition for several centuries, with the barleycorn being the base unit. One of the earliest such definitions is that of 1324, where the legal definition of the inch was set out in a statute of Edward II of England, defining it as "three grains of barley, dry and round, placed end to end, lengthwise".

King David I of Scotland in his Assize of Weights and Measures (c. 1150) is said to have defined the Scottish inch as the width of an average man's thumb at the base of the nail, even including the requirement to calculate the average of a small, a medium, and a large man's measures.
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Message 1845105 - Posted: 29 Jan 2017, 8:52:30 UTC - in response to Message 1845098.  

Barleycorn is also the measure used in UK shoe sizes. The most sensible shoe sizing system in the world.
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Message 1845120 - Posted: 29 Jan 2017, 9:24:34 UTC - in response to Message 1845105.  

Barleycorn is also the measure used in UK shoe sizes. The most sensible shoe sizing system in the world.

Awfully big feet if you ask me.
Apparently British and Irish shoe sizes differ from one another by the distance of a barleycorn.
Not a language issue though:)

But English grammer can be an issue.
"John is taller than me" and "John is taller than I"
It's funny because in Swedish we have exactly the same grammatical "problem".
"John är längre än mig" and "John är längre än jag"
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Message 1845130 - Posted: 29 Jan 2017, 10:07:01 UTC - in response to Message 1845120.  

But English grammer can be an issue.

So can spelling :-)))

"John is taller than me" and "John is taller than I"

It's a culture thing between countries. The Yanks think we are posh because we speak the Queen's English properly, we think they are scruffs because they can't be bothered to.

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Message 1845131 - Posted: 29 Jan 2017, 10:17:46 UTC

Shoe sizes are just silly!!! Try them on, if they fit buy them, else don't.

The following length units are commonly used today to define shoe-size systems:

The Paris point equates to  2⁄3 centimetre (6.6 mm or ~0.26 in). This means an increment of  2⁄3 centimetre ( 1⁄4 inch) between whole sizes, and  1⁄3 centimetre ( 1⁄8 inch) between half sizes. This unit is commonly used in Continental Europe.

The barleycorn is an old English unit that equates to  1⁄3 inch (8.46 mm). Half sizes are commonly made, resulting in an increment of  1⁄6 inch (4.23 mm). This measure is the basis for current U.K. and U.S. shoe sizes, with the largest shoe size taken as twelve inches (a size 12) and then counting backwards in barleycorn units.

Further, metric measurements in centimetres (cm) or millimetres (mm) are used. The increment is usually 0.5 cm (5 mm or ~0.20 in). It is used with the international Mondopoint system and with the Asian system.


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Message 1845132 - Posted: 29 Jan 2017, 10:33:49 UTC - in response to Message 1845130.  

But English grammer can be an issue.

So can spelling :-)))

Oops. Grammar that is.
Social media has a tendancy to ignore spelling rules.
Even here in this fora:)
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Message 1845143 - Posted: 29 Jan 2017, 11:56:43 UTC - in response to Message 1845097.  

I believe the thread was about how the same words are pronounced differently by people & not their definitions :-)

Oh & the OP did say no grammar police :-)
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Message 1845144 - Posted: 29 Jan 2017, 12:16:48 UTC - in response to Message 1845143.  

Oh & the OP did say no grammar police :-)

I didn't read the fine print.
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Message 1845148 - Posted: 29 Jan 2017, 13:08:42 UTC

To be honest i`m always glad to know how to say anything better.
My english is still far away from beeing perfect.
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Message 1845150 - Posted: 29 Jan 2017, 13:12:31 UTC - in response to Message 1845148.  

It's pretty good Mike and you and I have known each other for some years :-)
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Message 1845160 - Posted: 29 Jan 2017, 13:53:37 UTC - in response to Message 1845130.  

But English grammer can be an issue.

So can spelling :-)))

"John is taller than me" and "John is taller than I"

It's a culture thing between countries. The Yanks think we are posh because we speak the Queen's English properly, we think they are scruffs because they can't be bothered to.

Country thing

It's like how one pronounces: Tomato
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Message 1845176 - Posted: 29 Jan 2017, 16:05:31 UTC

OMG! My local team Sutton United has just beaten Leeds 1-0 to go through to the FA Cup 5th round!!!

Might not mean much to non-Brits but it is pretty big news around here :-))) I use to watch them in the early 60's as an Apprentice, never thought in my lifetime I'd see this.
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Message 1845210 - Posted: 29 Jan 2017, 18:49:48 UTC - in response to Message 1845176.  
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OMG! My local team Sutton United has just beaten Leeds 1-0 to go through to the FA Cup 5th round!!!


And there was me thinking you were sort of sensible Chris , Football ???

Don't worry 55ish days and the Proper sport will start ( even if it's been "taken over :-( " )
Life is what you make of it :-)

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Message 1845234 - Posted: 29 Jan 2017, 20:30:04 UTC - in response to Message 1845210.  

OMG! My local team Sutton United has just beaten Leeds 1-0 to go through to the FA Cup 5th round!!!


And there was me thinking you were sort of sensible Chris , Football ???

Don't worry 55ish days and the Proper sport will start ( even if it's been "taken over :-( " )

Cricket? :-D

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Message 1845245 - Posted: 29 Jan 2017, 21:14:58 UTC - in response to Message 1845234.  

Cricket? :-D



Na ain't Cricket but the 1st of the season is in Melbourne :-)
Life is what you make of it :-)

When i'm good i'm very good , but when i'm bad i'm shi#eloads better ;-) In't I " buttercups " p.m.s.l at authoritie !!;-)
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Message 1845246 - Posted: 29 Jan 2017, 21:20:47 UTC - in response to Message 1845245.  

Cricket? :-D



Na ain't Cricket but the 1st of the season is in Melbourne :-)

Must be Aussie Rules then. :-)

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Message 1845258 - Posted: 29 Jan 2017, 21:50:51 UTC - in response to Message 1845210.  
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OMG! My local team Sutton United has just beaten Leeds 1-0 to go through to the FA Cup 5th round!!!

And there was me thinking you were sort of sensible Chris , Football ???
Don't worry 55ish days and the Proper sport will start ( even if it's been "taken over :-( " )

Now I'm getting confused...
Is there a difference between American Football and Football in the rest of the world?
Well. A British football looks very different to an American football.
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