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Message 1871121 - Posted: 4 Jun 2017, 15:31:31 UTC - in response to Message 1871099.  

Since the definition of Hate Speech does not include Hate Speech directed toward certain Races, Genders, Religions, etc. Since...


I didn't think there was such a thing as "hate speech" in the USA.

There is in the UK and you can be prosecuted, but not I believe in the USA unless it leads to or incites violence.

'Hate Speech' is a pejorative term in the USA.

In order to control and oppress those to its will. There are many, mostly on The Left of the Political Spectrum in the USA. Who wish, to use the UK example. Prosecute only one side's Racist, Sexist, etc., 'Hate Speech'.

It is apparent that those who believe in Acceptable Bigotry. Be it - KKK, Nazi, Radical Left, et al. Should be shunned by all those who understand this:

A belief in a Superior Controlling Authority, controlling our speech. Will always lead, and has always led, to the worst crimes ever committed against The People.


@ Bernie Vine

This is the fundamental difference between the Libertarian/Classical Liberal view on Freedom of Speech (Founders of the USA, for instance) and the more Authoritarian view on Freedom of Speech (much of Europe, for instance).

Remember, Freedom of Speech is fairly meaningless without the Freedom to be Offensive with said Speech.

A personal, individual decision to refrain from being insulting towards others in some circumstances (freedom) is vastly different from removing that decision from individuals and forcing it on everyone through the Police Power of the Government by Law (slavery).

@ Clyde

Your statement is very, very true. I wish others understood it.
https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

#Texit

Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.
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Message 1871122 - Posted: 4 Jun 2017, 15:43:41 UTC - in response to Message 1871121.  

... I wish others understood it.

So do I Major Kong:)
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Message 1871130 - Posted: 4 Jun 2017, 17:05:01 UTC - in response to Message 1871021.  

But there are limits in satire how far you can go.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech

Let's not confuse the situation. Hate speech isn't satirical. Kathy's skit was satirical, therefore not hate speech.

You are dead wrong about that!
Kathy's skit wasn't satirical!
In Swedish skit is a foul word.
It means SHIT!


Again, because you believed it to be in poor taste, and I don't disagree, doesn't mean it wasn't satirical. You don't get to change the intent of the skit just because you hate it.
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Message 1871134 - Posted: 4 Jun 2017, 17:38:55 UTC - in response to Message 1871130.  

But there are limits in satire how far you can go.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech

Let's not confuse the situation. Hate speech isn't satirical. Kathy's skit was satirical, therefore not hate speech.

You are dead wrong about that!
Kathy's skit wasn't satirical!
In Swedish skit is a foul word.
It means SHIT!


Again, because you believed it to be in poor taste, and I don't disagree, doesn't mean it wasn't satirical. You don't get to change the intent of the skit just because you hate it.

I don't hate skits.
Only shits.
Get it OzzFan?
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Message 1871142 - Posted: 4 Jun 2017, 19:08:37 UTC - in response to Message 1871134.  

But there are limits in satire how far you can go.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech

Let's not confuse the situation. Hate speech isn't satirical. Kathy's skit was satirical, therefore not hate speech.

You are dead wrong about that!
Kathy's skit wasn't satirical!
In Swedish skit is a foul word.
It means SHIT!


Again, because you believed it to be in poor taste, and I don't disagree, doesn't mean it wasn't satirical. You don't get to change the intent of the skit just because you hate it.

I don't hate skits.
Only shits.
Get it OzzFan?


Oh, my bad. I misunderstood you this entire time. See, I thought you were saying Kathy's skit was hate speech and I assumed you were legimitately confused similar to when you thought rapists were terrorists. But now that you've restated your position more authoritatively, I get it now. Thanks for clearing your position up.
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Message 1871146 - Posted: 4 Jun 2017, 19:27:48 UTC - in response to Message 1871142.  

Oh, my bad. I misunderstood you this entire time. See, I thought you were saying Kathy's skit was hate speech and I assumed you were legimitately confused similar to when you thought rapists were terrorists. But now that you've restated your position more authoritatively, I get it now. Thanks for clearing your position up.

Thanks Ozzfan.
In social media you don't know who your talking to.
Not really understanding what the other person are talking about.
Trump is a very good example how not to use social media!

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Message 1871180 - Posted: 5 Jun 2017, 0:06:38 UTC - in response to Message 1871144.  

'The Issue' is not Satirical Humor. It is the Power of Social Media to control our speech.

Clyde, haven't you yet figured out yet too many people think because they saw it on the internet it must be true?
Yes, this is what you call "hate speech" , the idiocracy rules. Sometime the truth is hateful.
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Message 1871187 - Posted: 5 Jun 2017, 0:26:35 UTC - in response to Message 1871180.  

Sometime the truth is hateful.

Not really.
Truth can be painful. Not hateful.
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Message 1871191 - Posted: 5 Jun 2017, 1:04:08 UTC - in response to Message 1871188.  
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BTW: Are you enjoying The Right Wing, who following the lead of The Left Wing: Have learned to use Social Media (Mob Rule?) to punish and censor Satirical Comedy they disagree with?

I am not. Both sides should be shunned by anyone believing in Freedom of Speech.

Clyde, I did not nor do not ascribe a left wing or right wing value to to the idiocracy, both partisan factions are guilty and I have no answers given the powers ceded to the oligarchy.
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Message 1871289 - Posted: 5 Jun 2017, 17:02:26 UTC - in response to Message 1871238.  
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Since the Oligarchy, including The Radical Left/Right are threats to both our Freedoms and Lives. The only question, which apparently neither you nor I can answer. Is this:

Where is the Responsible, Moral, Ethical, belief in Individual Freedom Movement. Which has any chance to succeed?

Clyde, since you have been unable or unwilling to proffer a solution, I shall. Get rid of "Citizens United".
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Message 1871311 - Posted: 5 Jun 2017, 19:52:42 UTC - in response to Message 1871309.  

The self serving federal political system which has grown into a life of its own must be destroyed in order to preserve liberty
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Guy, you say the hell with federalism?
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Message 1871314 - Posted: 5 Jun 2017, 19:57:27 UTC - in response to Message 1871311.  

The self serving federal political system which has grown into a life of its own must be destroyed in order to preserve liberty
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Guy, you say the hell with federalism?

I don't think Guy knows what federalism is.
Anyways Russia, Germany and the US are federate states:)
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Message 1871340 - Posted: 5 Jun 2017, 21:52:56 UTC - in response to Message 1871309.  

CONVENTION OF STATES.

The self serving federal political system which has grown into a life of its own must be destroyed in order to preserve liberty.


You are really sounding like an anti-government extremist now. "I don't like how the government is run, nor do I think I'll ever get my way, so I want to destroy it." Scarry how easily some people give up on democracy because it doesn't serve their self interests.
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Message 1871342 - Posted: 5 Jun 2017, 22:03:38 UTC - in response to Message 1871334.  

I don't think Guy knows what federalism is.
Anyways Russia, Germany and the US are federate states:)
Germany, in name only.
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What?
Why do you think they have so many elections there?
https://www.bundestag.de/en/
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Message 1871345 - Posted: 5 Jun 2017, 22:08:08 UTC - in response to Message 1871309.  

CONVENTION OF STATES.

The self serving federal political system which has grown into a life of its own must be destroyed in order to preserve liberty.

Guy, you never cease to amaze us.

Maybe you should vent on Twitter along with your mate Donald. ;-)

Cheers.
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Message 1871347 - Posted: 5 Jun 2017, 22:12:46 UTC - in response to Message 1871345.  
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Sometimes I think Guy is Donald Trump.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump
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Message 1871360 - Posted: 5 Jun 2017, 22:51:24 UTC

Isn't the Don fixing that for you Guy, he was suppose to wasn't he?

Cheers.
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