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KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0
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Since the definition of Hate Speech does not include Hate Speech directed toward certain Races, Genders, Religions, etc. Since... @ Bernie Vine This is the fundamental difference between the Libertarian/Classical Liberal view on Freedom of Speech (Founders of the USA, for instance) and the more Authoritarian view on Freedom of Speech (much of Europe, for instance). Remember, Freedom of Speech is fairly meaningless without the Freedom to be Offensive with said Speech. A personal, individual decision to refrain from being insulting towards others in some circumstances (freedom) is vastly different from removing that decision from individuals and forcing it on everyone through the Police Power of the Government by Law (slavery). @ Clyde Your statement is very, very true. I wish others understood it. https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE #Texit Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016. Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0
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... I wish others understood it. So do I Major Kong:) |
OzzFan ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15692 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28
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But there are limits in satire how far you can go. Again, because you believed it to be in poor taste, and I don't disagree, doesn't mean it wasn't satirical. You don't get to change the intent of the skit just because you hate it. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0
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But there are limits in satire how far you can go. I don't hate skits. Only shits. Get it OzzFan? |
OzzFan ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15692 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28
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But there are limits in satire how far you can go. Oh, my bad. I misunderstood you this entire time. See, I thought you were saying Kathy's skit was hate speech and I assumed you were legimitately confused similar to when you thought rapists were terrorists. But now that you've restated your position more authoritatively, I get it now. Thanks for clearing your position up. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0
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Oh, my bad. I misunderstood you this entire time. See, I thought you were saying Kathy's skit was hate speech and I assumed you were legimitately confused similar to when you thought rapists were terrorists. But now that you've restated your position more authoritatively, I get it now. Thanks for clearing your position up. Thanks Ozzfan. In social media you don't know who your talking to. Not really understanding what the other person are talking about. Trump is a very good example how not to use social media! Cheers:) |
betreger ![]() Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11451 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66
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'The Issue' is not Satirical Humor. It is the Power of Social Media to control our speech. Clyde, haven't you yet figured out yet too many people think because they saw it on the internet it must be true? Yes, this is what you call "hate speech" , the idiocracy rules. Sometime the truth is hateful. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0
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Sometime the truth is hateful. Not really. Truth can be painful. Not hateful. |
betreger ![]() Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11451 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66
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BTW: Are you enjoying The Right Wing, who following the lead of The Left Wing: Have learned to use Social Media (Mob Rule?) to punish and censor Satirical Comedy they disagree with? Clyde, I did not nor do not ascribe a left wing or right wing value to to the idiocracy, both partisan factions are guilty and I have no answers given the powers ceded to the oligarchy. |
betreger ![]() Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11451 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66
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Since the Oligarchy, including The Radical Left/Right are threats to both our Freedoms and Lives. The only question, which apparently neither you nor I can answer. Is this: Clyde, since you have been unable or unwilling to proffer a solution, I shall. Get rid of "Citizens United". |
betreger ![]() Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11451 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66
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The self serving federal political system which has grown into a life of its own must be destroyed in order to preserve liberty. Guy, you say the hell with federalism? |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0
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The self serving federal political system which has grown into a life of its own must be destroyed in order to preserve liberty. I don't think Guy knows what federalism is. Anyways Russia, Germany and the US are federate states:) |
OzzFan ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15692 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28
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CONVENTION OF STATES. You are really sounding like an anti-government extremist now. "I don't like how the government is run, nor do I think I'll ever get my way, so I want to destroy it." Scarry how easily some people give up on democracy because it doesn't serve their self interests. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0
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I don't think Guy knows what federalism is. What? Why do you think they have so many elections there? https://www.bundestag.de/en/ |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 38808 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489
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CONVENTION OF STATES. Guy, you never cease to amaze us. Maybe you should vent on Twitter along with your mate Donald. ;-) Cheers. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0
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Sometimes I think Guy is Donald Trump. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 38808 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489
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Isn't the Don fixing that for you Guy, he was suppose to wasn't he? Cheers. |
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