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betreger ![]() Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 10274 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 149
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You are portraying a false dichotomy where we have to choose from either completely unregulated crony capitalism dominated by insider deals, kickbacks, fraud and wild instability, or all-out Marxism. There is a much more reasonable alternative of a "free as possible" market with some minimal level of oversight to prevent it from being taken over and dominated by white-collar criminals. Very much so YES! Guy's problem IMO is that he is an ideologue or a troll, he also has avatars that are generally ugly. |
Mr. Kevvy ![]() Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 3189 Credit: 1,114,826,392 RAC: 7,528
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Guy, I don't think anyone would deny that the market should be as free as it can be... for example look at the amazing advances in computer technology that could only have happened in an enterprise economy with companies competing to outdo each other. We all end up benefiting because this competition produced technology that would have been far too expensive to develop from scratch and made it so inexpensive that everyone could afford it. And that same competition brought us the bounty we enjoy where we have a plethora of goods to choose from and food is so plentiful there's an excess. Business has been called the engine of the economy... I think that it is a good analogy, but it's never taken to completion. A vehicle with only an engine will run it not at all or at top speed in a straight line until the engine burns out or the vehicle crashes. A vehicle also needs a speed control, a steering system and brakes. We saw an excellent example of this in 2007-2008 when due to deregulation of the financial industry, there was no oversight and fraud on a massive scale occurred. The economy almost collapsed, hundreds of thousands of honest working people lost their life savings due to their investment companies putting their money into fraudulent worthless securities, and these so-called capitalist businesses then went to the federal government asking for bailouts of taxpayer's money. Are memories so short that this has been forgotten? You are portraying a false dichotomy where we have to choose from either completely unregulated crony capitalism dominated by insider deals, kickbacks, fraud and wild instability, or all-out Marxism. There is a much more reasonable alternative of a "free as possible" market with some minimal level of oversight to prevent it from being taken over and dominated by white-collar criminals.
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betreger ![]() Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 10274 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 149
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Chinathat was nat a capitalist country, never has been. Cuba, Poland, Hungary, E. Germany yes it was but that was traditional Russian imperialism and Russia just happened to be Marxist at that time. N Korea, Marxist nationalists fighting Japanese imperialism. The point I was trying to make is Russia was a feudal country take over by a Marxist revolution and you counter with Russian imperialism. Clyde your talent at convoluting issues is world class. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0
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SWEET DUCKY Swede said: GREATEST PREZ EVER my ass! Trump is a lier and a disgrace to the American people! His Swedish connections are a lie fabricated by his father Fred that did not want to upset his Jewish tenants! There are many more Trump connections that are dodgy. I guess you have already read them. |
Gary Charpentier ![]() Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 27000 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 73
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If your aircraft call sign started with "November" you followed ICAO, although you may have been ignorant of that.Well, the the federal government already has the FEDERAL aviation administration. And since that has to do with air space, shouldn't we create a WORLD Aviation Administration and hand control over to them?They did; it is called the ICAO.
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Clyde "Liberal" ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Aug 99 Posts: 16388 Credit: 45,556,044 RAC: 62
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1917, 1918, 1919, 19... Radical Left Wing solution to Capitalism Murdering and Enslaving Anti Capitalist Marxists controlling China, Cuba, Poland, Russia, N. Korea, Hungary, E. Germany, et al. Were, according to betreger. Anti Feudalism? Sorry. But having read Das Kapital and The Communist Manifesto. Having debated those who supported The Communist Manifesto 'solutions': The reaction of Marx, Engels and myself is: Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha... CLYDE Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --- George Santayana Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. --- Lord Acton |
SUPER NATIONALIST&SUPER PRIVILEGED I'm **in' RACIST; I'm **in' BIGOTED; I'm **in' PREJUDICED; I'm **in' JUDGEMENTAL; I **In' Have ALL dA CONSCIOUS & UNCONSCIOUS BIAS & ALL Other NASTIEs a HuWoMan Can **in' Have. ALL AGENDAs ALL dA **in' Kind of Gender Send message Joined: 16 Jun 02 Posts: 4705 Credit: 6,588,977 RAC: 1
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SWEET DUCKY Swede said: Trump von Karlstad: "I'm the President, They're not" The Above Quote is A Swipe At X-PreZZZZZ O'Blabby. At a WH FAKENEWS Dinner years Back, Oh 11 or so, dA XXX TOTAL FAIL PreZZZZZ Nastily Smacking Down, BIG BIG BIG Don aka Now GREATEST PREZ EVER, said to Audience(BIG Don) 'He Is Not President, I Am'. TOTAL FAILs TIRADE against GREATEST PREZ EVER at This Dinner lasted 'bout 10 Minutes. GREATEST PREZ EVER used Sweet SWEDE's Quote above as As A REVENGE GET BACK to DroneHitMan's TIRADE at WHCD mentioned above. SMALL SKINNY TOTAL FAIL XXX PREZ now Has His COME^UPPANCE. SWEET IT IS to Be GREATEST PREZ EVER and NOT XXX GREATEST TOTAL FAIL of History. I AM YAP you ARE NOT.
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janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0
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Trump von Karlstad: "I'm the President, They're not" US President Donald Trump has since his the inaugural speech repeatedly criticized the country's media. On Saturday, the president spoke of "fake media" at an event in Washington D.C. Boy is he wrong:) And if it looks like a duck and talks like a duck... |
Gary Charpentier ![]() Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 27000 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 73
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Well, the the federal government already has the FEDERAL aviation administration. And since that has to do with air space, shouldn't we create a WORLD Aviation Administration and hand control over to them?They did; it is called the ICAO. <ed>The real problem seems to be the incredibly small slice of life conservatives are exposed to when they hide in their echo chambers.
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janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0
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What color shirt should I put on tomorrow? Shouldn't the government take care of that decision for me? LOL:) Here we have Socialstyrelsen that deal with that matters. http://www.socialstyrelsen.se/ The National Board of Health and Welfare is a state authority that protects health, welfare and equal access to good care and care for everyone. |
W-K 666 ![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 13797 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 151
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This is just an example of federal government over-reach. This is just an example of wasted duplicate tax payer money accomplishing nothing, which is currently being handled by the states, which have the authority to teach science. But it's not their lives is it. It is the lives of the children. |
betreger ![]() Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 10274 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 149
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After all, without government, people wouldn't be happy Without gubberment we wouldn't be burdened with roads, fire departments, the FAA, sewage treatment plants and a whole host of evil intrusions we have to pay for. I'm with you Guy every man for himself let freedom ring. |
W-K 666 ![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 13797 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 151
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This is just an example of federal government over-reach. This is just an example of wasted duplicate tax payer money accomplishing nothing, which is currently being handled by the states, which have the authority to teach science. And this is an example why local, State, level control of education shouldn't be allowed. New Florida law lets any resident challenge what’s taught in science classes |
betreger ![]() Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 10274 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 149
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1917, 1918, 1919, 19... Radical Left Wing solution to Capitalism No Clyde, not capitalism but feudalism. |
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