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Message 1838769 - Posted: 30 Dec 2016, 9:18:17 UTC

So I been running boinc with seti as well as various other tasks without problems for a week or so now. I have two gpus and 4 cores running on my system with 16Gb of ram.

Earlier I looked and I noticed that the seti as well as other project tasks were not updating progress in boinc at all yet cpu and gpu were at full and running. Tasks were completing thou but noticed the times for how long it would take to finish were way off. so I restarted my computer to refresh and start things up.

Now it's doing 2 seti tasks at a time like it always does with the two gpus but the problem is it keeps trying to run other seti tasks and keeps going to postponed one and another non stop for about an hour and then now a bunch waiting to run status and the progress percent rearly is being updated on all projects and if it does its like a long time after and jumps 10-20%. noticed some take hours to update. weird as this just start happening. now while the tasks are stil postponed while 2 seti tasks are runnign those percents are going up properly however other tasks the progress isnt being updated properly or regularly.

-- below is boinc log if your interested in peaking of what it shows... and i havent messed with boinc settings at all.

2016-12-29 11:34:03 PM | | Starting BOINC client version 7.6.33 for windows_x86_64
2016-12-29 11:34:03 PM | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
2016-12-29 11:34:03 PM | | Libraries: libcurl/7.47.1 OpenSSL/1.0.2g zlib/1.2.8
2016-12-29 11:34:03 PM | | Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
2016-12-29 11:34:03 PM | | Running under account easte
2016-12-29 11:34:20 PM | | OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 0: AMD Radeon R7 Graphics (driver version 2236.10, device version OpenCL 2.0 AMD-APP (2236.10), 2559MB, 2559MB available, 819 GFLOPS peak)
2016-12-29 11:34:20 PM | | OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 1: AMD Radeon (TM) R9 M385X (driver version 2236.10, device version OpenCL 2.0 AMD-APP (2236.10), 4096MB, 4096MB available, 1434 GFLOPS peak)
2016-12-29 11:34:20 PM | | Host name: LAPTOP-8MJARG9L
2016-12-29 11:34:20 PM | | Processor: 4 AuthenticAMD AMD FX-8800P Radeon R7, 12 Compute Cores 4C+8G [Family 21 Model 96 Stepping 1]
2016-12-29 11:34:20 PM | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 htt pni ssse3 fma cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 movebe popcnt aes f16c rdrandsyscall nx lm avx avx2 svm sse4a osvw ibs xop skinit wdt lwp fma4 tce tbm page1gb rdtscp fs
2016-12-29 11:34:20 PM | | OS: Microsoft Windows 10: Core x64 Edition, (10.00.14393.00)
2016-12-29 11:34:20 PM | | Memory: 14.96 GB physical, 17.21 GB virtual
2016-12-29 11:34:20 PM | | Disk: 884.60 GB total, 758.73 GB free
2016-12-29 11:34:20 PM | | Local time is UTC -8 hours
2016-12-29 11:34:20 PM | | VirtualBox version: 5.1.12
2016-12-29 11:34:20 PM | | Config: use all coprocessors
2016-12-29 11:34:20 PM | ATLAS@home | URL http://atlasathome.cern.ch/; Computer ID 66878; resource share 100
2016-12-29 11:34:20 PM | Enigma@Home | URL http://www.enigmaathome.net/; Computer ID 203208; resource share 100
2016-12-29 11:34:20 PM | Fight Neglected Diseases | URL https://compute.gridrepublic.org/; Computer ID 46448; resource share 100
2016-12-29 11:34:20 PM | LHC@home | URL https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/; Computer ID 10412636; resource share 100
2016-12-29 11:34:20 PM | RNA World | URL http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/; Computer ID 51924; resource share 100
2016-12-29 11:34:20 PM | SETI@home | URL http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID 8166299; resource share 100
2016-12-29 11:34:20 PM | World Community Grid | URL http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/; Computer ID 3756213; resource share 100
2016-12-29 11:34:25 PM | World Community Grid | General prefs: from World Community Grid (last modified 26-Dec-2016 13:27:56)
2016-12-29 11:34:25 PM | World Community Grid | Host location: none
2016-12-29 11:34:25 PM | World Community Grid | General prefs: using your defaults
2016-12-29 11:34:25 PM | | Preferences:
2016-12-29 11:34:25 PM | | max memory usage when active: 11489.38MB
2016-12-29 11:34:25 PM | | max memory usage when idle: 13787.26MB
2016-12-29 11:34:25 PM | | max disk usage: 100.00GB
2016-12-29 11:34:25 PM | | (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager)
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2016-12-29 11:36:12 PM | SETI@home | Starting task 25au09ab.23819.6202.10.37.127_0
2016-12-30 12:00:44 AM | SETI@home | Computation for task 20au09aa.3952.6616.10.37.63_2 finished
2016-12-30 12:00:45 AM | SETI@home | Started upload of 20au09aa.3952.6616.10.37.63_2_0
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Message 1838908 - Posted: 30 Dec 2016, 18:11:14 UTC

Do you have an anti-virus or other anti-malware scanner installed? Or are you using Windows Defender?
In all these cases, make sure you tell these programs not to actively scan the BOINC data directory C:\ProgramData\BOINC, because doing so will have the AV scanner lock the directory for the scan, during which time the science application cannot actively run. It's then timing out, counting to 30 seconds and trying again, timing out, counting to 30 seconds and trying again. Do so 100 times and the task will fail.
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Message 1838937 - Posted: 30 Dec 2016, 20:21:07 UTC - in response to Message 1838908.  

i use avast and which ive never had an issue with before but yes all boinc directories are on the exclusion list. is there some log settings i could change to see more detail into the problem?
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Message 1838938 - Posted: 30 Dec 2016, 20:35:31 UTC - in response to Message 1838908.  

also they didnt fail they did end up completing. things are running smoothly now with 2 seti tasks waiting to run while 2 others are crunching and updating regularly on progress section however the community project updates on progress are not active doing so however they do after a long time so i'm thinking maybe something with one of those work units may or messed up boinc. i may let boinc finish its work on those then seti and refresh it
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Message 1838943 - Posted: 30 Dec 2016, 20:51:54 UTC - in response to Message 1838908.  

just realised all the seti tasks go properly and wait there turn however its the 8.22 opencl_ati5_SoG_nocal ones that keep doing the postponed/waiting to run and then itll run through just fine later. for some reason since the new version its kinda messing up so i'll inquire in the section about this. also I haven't had issues computing SoG tasks from seti before.
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Message 1838951 - Posted: 30 Dec 2016, 21:28:50 UTC - in response to Message 1838943.  

Those tasks should have been deleted, read this post, https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=80754&postid=1838601#1838601
...cancelled the results for the bad app_versions (8.22 opencl_ati5_SoG_nocal and opencl_ati5_SoG_cat132).

They should have been deleted the next time you contacted the SETI Server. Try manually Updating from the BOINC Manager Projects Tab. If that doesn't delete them you might as well abort any 8.22 opencl_ati5_SoG_nocal and opencl_ati5_SoG_cat132 tasks you have as there isn't an App to run them. Those Plan Classes were cancelled and are now 8.23 with a corresponding 8.23 App.
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Message 1844905 - Posted: 28 Jan 2017, 6:22:57 UTC

i installed a gtx1070 and worked with it for a week trying to get the gpu to run however it was reporting "units postponed cuda, / opencl blah blah" and lost a lot of valuable processing time trying to figure out whether it was one machine or the card. finally loaded to old boinc program an found it ran fine!
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Message 1845791 - Posted: 1 Feb 2017, 16:08:11 UTC

Is it a coincidence that my tasks all get active instead of one at a time to completion since the new screen saver started? Things don't work right with five or ten tasks all running at once. What should we do?
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Message 1845832 - Posted: 1 Feb 2017, 21:23:11 UTC - in response to Message 1845791.  
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According to your list of computers you have an i7-4790 with 8 cores (that's 8 tasks) plus 2 GPUs (that's 2 tasks), so if you didn't restrain BOINC into running just one task at a time, it'll run 10 tasks because you allowed it to.
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Message 1845870 - Posted: 2 Feb 2017, 1:56:26 UTC - in response to Message 1845791.  
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@ Mark + Rita Hadley (earthbilly):
The simplest means to limit how many run at a time is to use the local preferences:
In BOINC Manager, click on "options",
then "Computing preferences",
then "Computing" tab
and enter the number of CPUs you wish to have running.
Click "OK" and you're done.

To limit how many run on your GPUs is a bit harder, so tell us what you want and on which system.
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Message 1845963 - Posted: 2 Feb 2017, 18:42:15 UTC - in response to Message 1845870.  

Hi Darrell,
Yes, thank you for your help. What I now understand is the first three weeks I was assigned tasks the CPU never kicked in for some unknown reason as I believe it was set to all 100%. So when my tasks began to run, (one for each GPU and one for each core), I thought something was wrong when all along something was wrong in the beginning and now we are tasking completely in the CPU + GPU's. I am good to go! I kept extreme records of each computer, its wattage usage, and task completion. Now the watts are way up because the CPU is working too. At first I thought something was wrong. Glad it is OK! I see the i5 is running the proper number of tasks too.
Sunny regards and forgive cutting into this string. I hope all is fixed with the originator too. I'm not very experienced in posts and podcast edict.

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