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Message 1839996 - Posted: 4 Jan 2017, 21:50:18 UTC - in response to Message 1839910.  

thanks verifies what i thought but for some reason even resetting and deleting all and redoing it still gave me the app version not found for 8.23 and thus the opencl_ati5_SoG_nocal 8.23 tasks got abandoned by boinc.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=8166299 my computer id under errors u can see only those tasks are being abandonded and boinc in logs stated that no app version 8.23

SETI@home | [error] No app version found for app setiathome_v8 platform windows_intelx86 ver 823 class opencl_ati5_SoG_nocal; discarding 11ja09af.28756.90200.6.33.84_0

I did check cleint_state.xml and only app_version showing in there is a 8.22 not 8.23 and i think thats what boinc is saying when it finds no ver 823.

is this something simple i can modify on my own or something u would have to check on?

cheers man and keep up the good work
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Message 1840104 - Posted: 5 Jan 2017, 9:08:56 UTC - in response to Message 1839996.  

Result status "abandoned" has nothing to do with app itself. App even wasn't ran at all.
It's BOINC configuration issue.
Try next steps:
1) set SETI project to "no new tasks" (NNT) mode.
2) complete all tasks
3) detach from SETI project.
4) after detaching browse to BOINC's projects directory
5) completely delete setiathome.berkeley.edu directory
6) attach to SETI project
7) don't do any modifications app_config.xml creation including.

If 8.23 will be downloaded and lost again report back. This would mean BOINC configuration issues not client but server-side.
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Message 1840142 - Posted: 5 Jan 2017, 15:48:54 UTC - in response to Message 1840104.  

I had him do steps 3) , 4), 5) and 6).
Should have added 7) because I didn't know the contents of his app_config.xml
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Message 1840281 - Posted: 6 Jan 2017, 5:21:44 UTC - in response to Message 1840104.  

i followed all the steps exactly and didnt even include my app_config.xml (which only specifies set use only my fastest gpu)

same issues again. i did make sure everything was deleted, etc

2017-01-05 9:10:00 PM | | Fetching configuration file from http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/get_project_config.php
2017-01-05 9:10:14 PM | SETI@home | Master file download succeeded
2017-01-05 9:10:19 PM | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: Project initialization.
2017-01-05 9:10:19 PM | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU and AMD/ATI GPU
2017-01-05 9:10:21 PM | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
2017-01-05 9:10:23 PM | SETI@home | Started download of setiathome_8.22_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati5_sah.exe
2017-01-05 9:10:23 PM | SETI@home | Started download of MultiBeam_Kernels_r3584.cl
2017-01-05 9:10:26 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of MultiBeam_Kernels_r3584.cl
2017-01-05 9:10:26 PM | SETI@home | Started download of libfftw3f-3-3-4_x86.dll
2017-01-05 9:10:27 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of setiathome_8.22_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati5_sah.exe
2017-01-05 9:10:27 PM | SETI@home | Started download of mb_cmdline-8.22_windows_intel__opencl_ati5_sah.txt
2017-01-05 9:10:28 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of mb_cmdline-8.22_windows_intel__opencl_ati5_sah.txt
2017-01-05 9:10:28 PM | SETI@home | Started download of setiathome-8.22_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati5_sah_AUTHORS.txt
2017-01-05 9:10:29 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of libfftw3f-3-3-4_x86.dll
2017-01-05 9:10:29 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of setiathome-8.22_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati5_sah_AUTHORS.txt
2017-01-05 9:10:29 PM | SETI@home | Started download of setiathome-8.22_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati5_sah_COPYING.txt
2017-01-05 9:10:29 PM | SETI@home | Started download of setiathome-8.22_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati5_sah_COPYRIGHT.txt
2017-01-05 9:10:30 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of setiathome-8.22_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati5_sah_COPYING.txt
2017-01-05 9:10:30 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of setiathome-8.22_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati5_sah_COPYRIGHT.txt
2017-01-05 9:10:30 PM | SETI@home | Started download of setiathome-8.22_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati5_sah_README.txt
2017-01-05 9:10:30 PM | SETI@home | Started download of setiathome-8.22_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati5_sah_README_OPENCL.txt
2017-01-05 9:10:31 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of setiathome-8.22_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati5_sah_README.txt
2017-01-05 9:10:31 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of setiathome-8.22_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati5_sah_README_OPENCL.txt
2017-01-05 9:10:31 PM | SETI@home | Started download of 11ja09ac.24962.21749.4.31.14
2017-01-05 9:10:31 PM | SETI@home | Started download of arecibo_181.png
2017-01-05 9:10:31 PM | SETI@home | Started download of sah_40.png
2017-01-05 9:10:31 PM | SETI@home | Started download of sah_banner_290.png
2017-01-05 9:10:31 PM | SETI@home | Started download of sah_ss_290.png
2017-01-05 9:10:33 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of 11ja09ac.24962.21749.4.31.14
2017-01-05 9:10:33 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of arecibo_181.png
2017-01-05 9:10:33 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of sah_40.png
2017-01-05 9:10:33 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of sah_banner_290.png
2017-01-05 9:10:33 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of sah_ss_290.png
2017-01-05 9:10:33 PM | SETI@home | Starting task 11ja09ac.24962.21749.4.31.14_1
2017-01-05 9:15:29 PM | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
2017-01-05 9:15:29 PM | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for AMD/ATI GPU
2017-01-05 9:15:31 PM | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 13 new tasks
2017-01-05 9:15:31 PM | SETI@home | [error] No app version found for app setiathome_v8 platform windows_intelx86 ver 823 class opencl_ati5_SoG_nocal; discarding 08fe09ac.16152.2117.13.40.212_0
2017-01-05 9:15:31 PM | SETI@home | [error] No app version found for app setiathome_v8 platform windows_intelx86 ver 823 class opencl_ati5_SoG_nocal; discarding 11ja09ac.24962.22976.4.31.113_0
2017-01-05 9:15:31 PM | SETI@home | [error] No app version found for app setiathome_v8 platform windows_intelx86 ver 823 class opencl_ati5_SoG_nocal; discarding 11ja09ac.24962.22976.4.31.72_1
2017-01-05 9:15:31 PM | SETI@home | [error] No app version found for app setiathome_v8 platform windows_intelx86 ver 823 class opencl_ati5_SoG_nocal; discarding 11ja09ac.24962.22976.4.31.244_1
2017-01-05 9:15:31 PM | SETI@home | [error] No app version found for app setiathome_v8 platform windows_intelx86 ver 823 class opencl_ati5_SoG_nocal; discarding 11ja09ac.24962.22976.4.31.133_0
2017-01-05 9:15:31 PM | SETI@home | [error] No app version found for app setiathome_v8 platform windows_intelx86 ver 823 class opencl_ati5_SoG_nocal; discarding 11ja09ac.24962.22976.4.31.223_0
2017-01-05 9:15:31 PM | SETI@home | [error] No app version found for app setiathome_v8 platform windows_intelx86 ver 823 class opencl_ati5_SoG_nocal; discarding 11ja09ac.24962.22976.4.31.125_1
2017-01-05 9:15:31 PM | SETI@home | [error] No app version found for app setiathome_v8 platform windows_intelx86 ver 823 class opencl_ati5_SoG_nocal; discarding 11ja09ac.24962.22976.4.31.238_0
2017-01-05 9:15:31 PM | SETI@home | [error] No app version found for app setiathome_v8 platform windows_intelx86 ver 823 class opencl_ati5_SoG_nocal; discarding 11ja09ac.24962.22976.4.31.118_1
2017-01-05 9:15:31 PM | SETI@home | [error] No app version found for app setiathome_v8 platform windows_intelx86 ver 823 class opencl_ati5_SoG_nocal; discarding 11ja09ac.24962.22976.4.31.103_0
2017-01-05 9:15:31 PM | SETI@home | [error] No app version found for app setiathome_v8 platform windows_intelx86 ver 823 class opencl_ati5_SoG_nocal; discarding 11ja09ac.24962.22976.4.31.112_1
2017-01-05 9:15:31 PM | SETI@home | [error] No app version found for app setiathome_v8 platform windows_intelx86 ver 823 class opencl_ati5_SoG_nocal; discarding 11ja09ac.24962.22976.4.31.106_1
2017-01-05 9:15:31 PM | SETI@home | [error] No app version found for app setiathome_v8 platform windows_intelx86 ver 823 class opencl_ati5_SoG_nocal; discarding 11ja09ac.24962.22976.4.31.11_0
2017-01-05 9:15:33 PM | SETI@home | Started download of setiathome_8.22_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati5_SoG.exe
2017-01-05 9:15:33 PM | SETI@home | Started download of mb_cmdline-8.22_windows_intel__opencl_ati5_SoG.txt
2017-01-05 9:15:35 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of mb_cmdline-8.22_windows_intel__opencl_ati5_SoG.txt
2017-01-05 9:15:35 PM | SETI@home | Started download of setiathome-8.22_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati5_SoG_AUTHORS.txt
2017-01-05 9:15:36 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of setiathome_8.22_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati5_SoG.exe
2017-01-05 9:15:36 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of setiathome-8.22_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati5_SoG_AUTHORS.txt
2017-01-05 9:15:36 PM | SETI@home | Started download of setiathome-8.22_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati5_SoG_COPYING.txt
2017-01-05 9:15:36 PM | SETI@home | Started download of setiathome-8.22_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati5_SoG_COPYRIGHT.txt
2017-01-05 9:15:38 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of setiathome-8.22_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati5_SoG_COPYING.txt
2017-01-05 9:15:38 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of setiathome-8.22_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati5_SoG_COPYRIGHT.txt
2017-01-05 9:15:38 PM | SETI@home | Started download of setiathome-8.22_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati5_SoG_README.txt
2017-01-05 9:15:38 PM | SETI@home | Started download of setiathome-8.22_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati5_SoG_README_OPENCL.txt
2017-01-05 9:15:39 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of setiathome-8.22_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati5_SoG_README.txt
2017-01-05 9:15:39 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of setiathome-8.22_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati5_SoG_README_OPENCL.txt


so i have no clue i tried all the steps mentioned by others and you as well. sorry man got to be more to this. I included the log so u can see everything it did download. also client_state.xml has no 823 app version at all only the 822 so again maybe that'll point generally to the issue.
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Message 1840286 - Posted: 6 Jan 2017, 6:12:07 UTC - in response to Message 1840281.  
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It's downloading
setiathome_8.22_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati5_sah.exe

It then downloads a WU, and starts to run it- no errors.

It requests more work, which is allocated,
then it tries to run
v8.23
opencl_ati5_SoG_nocal
and then it is all discarded- even though no download occurs.


Then it downloads
setiathome_8.22_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati5_SoG.exe

end of posted log.

Did the initial WU crunch successfully?
The next time it asked for work, what happened?
The rest of the log may be of some help.

EDIT-
5) completely delete setiathome.berkeley.edu directory

This was done without issues?
Your AV programme or folder permissions didn't block the deletion of the folder & everything in it?
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Message 1840289 - Posted: 6 Jan 2017, 6:30:48 UTC - in response to Message 1840286.  


It requests more work, which is allocated,
then it tries to run
v8.23
opencl_ati5_SoG_nocal
and then it is all discarded- even though no download occurs.


Since his SETI folder is deleted he's starting from no apps and the log shows his client is only receiving 8.22 applications.

So the server isn't sending an 8.23 application but it's sending 8.23 work units.

I'd hypothesize that the 4 million 8.23 successful WU's came from clients that received an 8.23 application at some earlier time but now the server is refusing to send out the 8.23 application but is still sending out 8.23 WU's to some clients.

The error being received seems to be appropriate and this is a server side issue.
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Message 1840291 - Posted: 6 Jan 2017, 6:35:22 UTC

It looks like a Server issue to me. I've been looking at the Applications list since the problem began and it still says 4 GigaFLOPS for both 8.23 Apps.
Windows/x86 	8.23 (opencl_ati5_SoG_cat132) 	28 Dec 2016, 23:34:07 UTC 	4 GigaFLOPS
Windows/x86 	8.23 (opencl_ati5_SoG_nocal) 	28 Dec 2016, 23:34:07 UTC 	4 GigaFLOPS

Considering the non-SoG Apps say;
Windows/x86 	8.22 (opencl_ati5_cat132) 	28 Dec 2016, 23:34:07 UTC 	5,012 GigaFLOPS
Windows/x86 	8.22 (opencl_ati5_nocal) 	28 Dec 2016, 23:34:07 UTC 	10,259 GigaFLOPS

It seems there is a problem distributing those two Apps.
The new most popular Linux Apps are already above 40-90 and they were just released tonight.
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Message 1840292 - Posted: 6 Jan 2017, 6:42:24 UTC

The log shows:
2017-01-05 9:10:33 PM | SETI@home | Starting task 11ja09ac.24962.21749.4.31.14_1
But it isn't one of the tasks that show errors.

I think he missed a step:
2) complete all tasks

The client_state would still show old tasks exist, but in fact would not it the directory was removed. The discarded tasks were not downloaded "as new" so they must have been pre-existing.
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Message 1840294 - Posted: 6 Jan 2017, 6:59:37 UTC - in response to Message 1840289.  
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So the server isn't sending an 8.23 application but it's sending 8.23 work units.

WUs are WUs there are no CPU or GPU WUs until they are allocated to a system.
Same with the version on the WU- it picks up whatever application it is allocated to.

For some reason, his system is trying to run v8.23, although it doesn't actually have it.

At the start of the log you can see where it requests work, finds it doesn't have an application to process it, downloads the application, then starts processing that WU.
For some reason, the next batch of work it gets allocated (although not downloaded???) it tries to process with an application it doesn't have.
After dumping all of those WUs, it then downloads another application (different from the first).
Unfortuately that's where the log ends.
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Message 1840295 - Posted: 6 Jan 2017, 7:03:03 UTC - in response to Message 1840292.  
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The log shows:
2017-01-05 9:10:33 PM | SETI@home | Starting task 11ja09ac.24962.21749.4.31.14_1
But it isn't one of the tasks that show errors.

I think he missed a step:
2) complete all tasks

The client_state would still show old tasks exist, but in fact would not it the directory was removed. The discarded tasks were not downloaded "as new" so they must have been pre-existing.

I'm thinking after detaching from the project it probably would have been a good idea to uninstall BOINC, delete it's Data folders, re-install & re-attach. Although I guess that would result in a new Computer ID? As well as lose any stats etc.
Maybe just deleting client_state.xml & client_state_prev.xml and anything in the Slots folder?
I'm guessing if there were any trace of a app_info.xml file it wouldn't attempt to download the stock applications?
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Message 1840298 - Posted: 6 Jan 2017, 7:13:57 UTC - in response to Message 1840286.  
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2017-01-05 9:10:31 PM | SETI@home | Started download of 11ja09ac.24962.21749.4.31.14
2017-01-05 9:10:33 PM | SETI@home | Starting task 11ja09ac.24962.21749.4.31.14_1

That is the Same task, it was downloaded.

The problem is No One has returned any work for the Two 8.23 Apps. The Server isn't sending it to Anyone.
Look at the Post from the Fourth, it also says 4 GF.
Message 1839910 - Posted: 4 Jan 2017, 11:59:29 UTC
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php

Windows/x86 8.20 (opencl_intel_gpu_sah) 14 Dec 2016, 0:46:29 UTC 25,365 GigaFLOPS
Windows/x86 8.22 (opencl_ati5_cat132) 28 Dec 2016, 23:34:07 UTC 3,870 GigaFLOPS
Windows/x86 8.22 (opencl_ati5_nocal) 28 Dec 2016, 23:34:07 UTC 8,053 GigaFLOPS
Windows/x86 8.22 (opencl_ati5_sah) 28 Dec 2016, 23:34:07 UTC 88 GigaFLOPS
Windows/x86 8.22 (opencl_ati5_SoG) 28 Dec 2016, 23:34:07 UTC 132 GigaFLOPS
Windows/x86 8.22 (opencl_ati_cat132) 28 Dec 2016, 23:34:07 UTC 3,362 GigaFLOPS
Windows/x86 8.22 (opencl_ati_nocal) 28 Dec 2016, 23:34:07 UTC 6,743 GigaFLOPS
Windows/x86 8.22 (opencl_ati_sah) 28 Dec 2016, 23:34:07 UTC 145 GigaFLOPS
Windows/x86 8.22 (opencl_nvidia_SoG) 28 Dec 2016, 23:34:07 UTC 50,625 GigaFLOPS
Windows/x86 8.23 (opencl_ati5_SoG_cat132) 28 Dec 2016, 23:34:07 UTC 4 GigaFLOPS
Windows/x86 8.23 (opencl_ati5_SoG_nocal) 28 Dec 2016, 23:34:07 UTC 4 GigaFLOPS
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Message 1840299 - Posted: 6 Jan 2017, 7:28:42 UTC - in response to Message 1840298.  
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2017-01-05 9:10:31 PM | SETI@home | Started download of 11ja09ac.24962.21749.4.31.14
2017-01-05 9:10:33 PM | SETI@home | Starting task 11ja09ac.24962.21749.4.31.14_1

That is the Same task, it was downloaded.

Yeah, the intial task was downloaded, and started to be processed.

But then there were 13 tasks discarded - without being downloaded - because it tried to run them with an application it didn't have.


The problem is No One has returned any work for the Two 8.23 Apps. The Server isn't sending it to Anyone.

Something is certainly borked.

In Beta Eric posted That's weird. It looks like plan_class_spec.xml was reverted to an earlier version while I was away...., probably in response to the Arm issues. Maybe it's affected the 8.22/8.23 application rollout as well.
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Message 1840301 - Posted: 6 Jan 2017, 8:43:40 UTC - in response to Message 1840299.  
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Yep, something strange for sure. This host is keeping the 8.23 tasks but they aren't being worked, https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8001648&offset=740 The In Progress is pretty high as well. I wonder how many others there are like that.
Also, all I'm receiving is Arecibo tasks and resent BLCs, it would appear the BLCs aren't being split. RTS is down too.

I found a few more accumulating a nice stash of non-working 8.23s. In each case the In progress tasks were in the thousands. It has to be putting a strain on the Server. So, how much can she take? Is she about to blow???
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Message 1840312 - Posted: 6 Jan 2017, 10:25:41 UTC

I'm seeing the same behaviour - all 8.23 tasks for ati5_SoG.... are being rejected because there's no matching app.

This is probably not relevant, but could the absence of the app needed to handle these tasks have anything to do with the presence of the 8.22 nvidia_SoG app that was incorrectly downloaded to ATI machines (and which I have)? I don't think it should, and I don't think deleting this app would halp, but I'm no expert.

Alternatively, when Eric Korpela did this:

Another typo in another manually edited script copied the wrong base app_version into the ati5_SoG app_versions. I've rereleased them at 8.23 and cancelled the results for the bad app_versions (8.22 opencl_ati5_SoG_nocal and opencl_ati5_SoG_cat132).


is it possible that no new 8.23 app was created to match the tasks' version number change? It may have been done quickly in the holiday period.
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Message 1840326 - Posted: 6 Jan 2017, 11:17:26 UTC - in response to Message 1840281.  

I notified Eric about issue.
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Message 1840328 - Posted: 6 Jan 2017, 11:21:31 UTC - in response to Message 1840326.  

awesome glad we will get this resolved in time. thanks for all the input.
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Message 1840349 - Posted: 6 Jan 2017, 13:46:04 UTC - in response to Message 1840301.  

Interesting about that computer TBar linked with 5072 in progress tasks

SETI@home v8 8.22 windows_intelx86 (opencl_ati_nocal)
Number of tasks completed 2131
Max tasks per day 232
Number of tasks today 412
Consecutive valid tasks 199
Average processing rate 466.07 GFLOPS
Average turnaround time 0.51 days

SETI@home v8 8.23 windows_intelx86 (opencl_ati5_SoG_nocal)
Number of tasks completed 0
Max tasks per day 33
Number of tasks today 314
Consecutive valid tasks 0
Average turnaround time 0.00 days


It looks like it's been acting up since Nov 18.
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Message 1840383 - Posted: 6 Jan 2017, 16:42:59 UTC - in response to Message 1840326.  

Thanks, Raistmer.

It may be that all it needs is for the filename of the app to be changed from 8.22 to 8.23 (but, as I said, I'm no expert and could be way off beam).
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Message 1840572 - Posted: 7 Jan 2017, 8:54:56 UTC

And now I can confirm server-side issue on own absolutely fresh stock install: https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8177404
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Message 1840696 - Posted: 7 Jan 2017, 20:46:49 UTC - in response to Message 1840572.  

thanks for the update, feels great to know its not user-end and something I may of done to my settings. cheers man.
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