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Message 1834955 - Posted: 9 Dec 2016, 10:57:14 UTC

I have an AMD RX470 and an RX480 that I have been unable to get working for GPU tasks. I've only used NVIDIA cards for a GPU tasks in the past, but these cards were cheap for the specs. So far, I've had zero luck getting these two cards working with BOINC. I've loaded the AMDGPU-Pro drivers for UBUNTU 16.04 from the AMD website, but they didn't help. Just getting the drivers to work so the machines will boot is a chore. My BOINC logs say they find the OpenCL drivers, but no GPUs are found.

I would like to avoid Windows for this machine if at all possible, since all my other machines are running Ubuntu. The machine also has 4 CPUs, so Windows wouldn't see all the CPUs without running a Server version of Windows.

I've chatted with some folks on the Ubuntu Forums, and only a few have even been able to get their PCs to boot with these cards once they load the AMDGPU-Pro driver and none were running BOINC or other OpenCL tasks.

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Message 1835027 - Posted: 9 Dec 2016, 18:52:04 UTC - in response to Message 1834955.  
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Last summer ubuntu 16.04 worked ok with my RX470, even with AMD's first Beta driver for their RX 400 series.

How do the first 30 or 40 lines of your BOINC event log look ? Any problems listed there ?
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Message 1835059 - Posted: 9 Dec 2016, 22:15:17 UTC - in response to Message 1835027.  

Fri 0[code]9 Dec 2016 04:04:43 PM CST |  | Starting BOINC client version 7.6.31 for x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
Fri 09 Dec 2016 04:04:43 PM CST |  | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
Fri 09 Dec 2016 04:04:43 PM CST |  | Libraries: libcurl/7.47.0 OpenSSL/1.0.2g zlib/1.2.8 libidn/1.32 librtmp/2.3
Fri 09 Dec 2016 04:04:43 PM CST |  | Data directory: /var/lib/boinc-client
Fri 09 Dec 2016 04:04:59 PM CST |  | No usable GPUs found
Fri 09 Dec 2016 04:04:59 PM CST |  | Host name: borg1
Fri 09 Dec 2016 04:04:59 PM CST |  | Processor: 24 AuthenticAMD Six-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 8431 [Family 16 Model 8 Stepping 0]
Fri 09 Dec 2016 04:04:59 PM CST |  | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc extd_apicid pni monitor cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt hw_pstate vmmcall npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save pausefilter
Fri 09 Dec 2016 04:04:59 PM CST |  | OS: Linux: 4.4.0-53-generic
Fri 09 Dec 2016 04:04:59 PM CST |  | Memory: 31.42 GB physical, 46.76 GB virtual
Fri 09 Dec 2016 04:04:59 PM CST |  | Disk: 870.75 GB total, 819.18 GB free
Fri 09 Dec 2016 04:04:59 PM CST |  | Local time is UTC -6 hours
Fri 09 Dec 2016 04:04:59 PM CST |  | Config: GUI RPCs allowed from:
Fri 09 Dec 2016 04:04:59 PM CST | pogs | URL http://pogs.theskynet.org/pogs/; Computer ID 761731; resource share 100
Fri 09 Dec 2016 04:04:59 PM CST |  | General prefs: from http://bam.boincstats.com/ (last modified 09-Dec-2016 00:40:43)
Fri 09 Dec 2016 04:04:59 PM CST |  | Host location: none
Fri 09 Dec 2016 04:04:59 PM CST |  | General prefs: using your defaults
Fri 09 Dec 2016 04:04:59 PM CST |  | Reading preferences override file
Fri 09 Dec 2016 04:04:59 PM CST |  | Preferences:
Fri 09 Dec 2016 04:04:59 PM CST |  | max memory usage when active: 19303.65MB
Fri 09 Dec 2016 04:04:59 PM CST |  | max memory usage when idle: 28955.47MB
Fri 09 Dec 2016 04:04:59 PM CST |  | max disk usage: 435.37GB
Fri 09 Dec 2016 04:04:59 PM CST |  | don't compute while active
Fri 09 Dec 2016 04:04:59 PM CST |  | (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager)
Fri 09 Dec 2016 04:04:59 PM CST |  | gui_rpc_auth.cfg is empty - no GUI RPC password protection
Fri 09 Dec 2016 04:04:59 PM CST |  | Suspending computation - user request
[/code]

The "coproc_info.xml" files has the following:
    <coprocs>
<warning>NVIDIA: libcuda.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory</warning>
<warning>ATI: libaticalrt.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory</warning>
<warning>clGetDeviceInfo failed to get CL_DEVICE_SIMD_PER_COMPUTE_UNIT_AMD for device 0</warning>
<warning>OpenCL library present but no OpenCL-capable devices found</warning>
    </coprocs>


Even the "amdgpu_test" program supplied by AMD with the driver does not detect the GPU.
'/opt/amdgpu-pro/bin/amdgpu_test'
DRM driver is not available

The "clinfo" program detects only the 24 Opteron CPU cores.

I found a cheap copy of Windows Server 2012 R2 on Ebay, so I'm going to give in a try to see if the cards will work on this machine with Windows.
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Message 1835070 - Posted: 9 Dec 2016, 23:02:55 UTC - in response to Message 1835059.  

check your fglrx driver are installed using : dpkg -l | grep fglrx
try to remove nvidia driver if you were using nvidia card before (dpkg -l | grep nvidia ; apt-get remove --purge nvidia*)

Are you running boinc without X server ?
If yes, it's not easy to launch boinc with GPU support.
You need to set a script with :
init /home/user/BOINC/dummy_wm.boinc -- :1
with the following file dummy_wm.boinc :
#!/bin/sh
/home/user/BOINC/boinc --dir /home/user/BOINC >/home/user/BOINC/boinc.log --allow_remote_gui_rpc 2>/home/user/BOINC/berror.log

Standard video output is :0 on linux, so you need to add a separate video ouput :1
If you are using two display (using an extra monitor), you should use :2
It took me a while to find this answer (with the help of google)...if someone have a better idea....
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Message 1835083 - Posted: 10 Dec 2016, 0:20:14 UTC - in response to Message 1835070.  

AMD quit supporting the fglrx drivers, which don't work on Linux since Ubuntu version 16.04 was released in April. Older AMD GPUs must use an old version of Linux, and the new GPUs must use the new open source AMDGPU (which doesn't support OpenCL) or the AMDGPU-Pro driver for games or OpenCL crunching. This AMDGPU-Pro driver for the new RX400 cards is only supported on Ubuntu and no other Linux distributions. This new driver is so buggy that most people's machines either lockup with a black screen or go into a endless loop at the login screen that won't allow them to login. After 2 months of work testing the cards on 3 different PCs, I could get the drivers to display a GUI and play videos, but could not get BOINC or any other OpenCl apps to detect the video cards.

I've finally given up getting these AMD cards to work with Ubuntu for the time being. I found a copy of Windows Server 2012R2 for $35 on Ebay and installed it, since only a server version of Windows could access all 24 CPU cores on my motherboard, which has 4 hex core AMD Opteron CPUs.

BOINC saw the AMD RX470 as soon as I installed the Windows drivers for the card! I've only got one video card running right now. Because the PCIe slots were too close on the motherboard for both cards. I've ordered and am waiting on one of those PCIe adapters like BitCoin miners use, which will allow me to get both GPUs crunching.

Warning to others who are wanting to use new AMD cards for crunching on Linux, "Here there be monsters" that will suck up your time like a black hole. It's really a shame, because I've been an fan of AMD CPUs for many years, but they are really not doing well with the support for their GPUs on Linux. They apparently are devoting all their efforts to the Windows desktop and getting their new Zen APUs ready for market.

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Message 1835128 - Posted: 10 Dec 2016, 4:27:13 UTC - in response to Message 1835083.  

The shortly released AMDGPU-Pro driver 16.50 is available for all the mainstream distros like Ubuntu 16.04, RHEL 6.8, RHEL 7.3, SLED/SLES12 SP2 (and their clones) Sadly AMD does not say very precise which Linux distros will work. But their amdgpu-pro_preinstall.sh script has about all of them in there (somehow)
Currently i use this driver with my R9 290s on SL7.2 (a RHEL 7.2 clone). Installing the AMDGPU-Pro driver took me only 10 minutes !
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Message 1835149 - Posted: 10 Dec 2016, 8:39:18 UTC - in response to Message 1835128.  

The motherboards I'm using are all fairly old SuperMicro H8QME-2 and H8QMi-2 server motherboards from 2006-2009, which may be partly why I'm having problems. A few years ago, I got a dozen of them really cheap, and with 4 hex core 2.4GHz CPUs, they will still crunch, so I still use them. The other people I've chatted with who can't get the RX470/80 cards to work on Ubuntu were upgrading existing machines that aren't new. The NVIDIA chipsets on my motherboards still had support for AGP graphics so that manufacturers could use the same chipsets for motherboards with AGP or PCIe. This causes some confusion for Ubuntu during boot as it tries to allocate an AGP memory aperture, even though the motherboards have PCIe, PCI, and PCI-X slots. Even though they have no AGP slots, Ubuntu logs some IOMMU errors for AGP as it loads. They also have on-board Radeon VGA video. With the jumpers set to disable the motherboard's VGA and installing NVIDIA cards, they've ran BOINC CPU and NVIDIA GPU tasks without a problem.

Since I got these AMD cards to test, I've tried Ubuntu versions 16.04 and 16.10 with several kernels. Once I got around problems that prevented the systems from booting with the AMDGPU-Pro drivers, even AMD's "amdgpu_test" program said "DRM driver is not available". After I installed Windows Server 2012R2 and AMD's driver for Windows 8 this morning, the AMD RX 470 has been cranking out a SETI GPU work unit every 5 minutes and a CPU work unit every 12 minutes.

Since these new AMD Linux drivers only work on their newer GPUs, there likely wasn't much testing of the new drivers and cards with old motherboards. In defense of the AMD driver support people, the majority of the problems reported on the UBUNTU and AMD forums are from users that don't know how unzip the script, open a command prompt, change to the directory, and run the script. The next most frequent problem is that the default GRUB command line often needs to be changed to "nomodeset", otherwise many machines lock up with a black screen during boot or won't allow the user to login. I think that the AMD people who wrote their instructions and the install script were under the mistaken impression that all Linux users were geeks, so they didn't need to over-explain things. They overlooked the large number of UBUNTU users that are non-technical users who simply a want free OS where they don't have to worry about virus infected emails. Real problems with the drivers not working with some hardware configs are simply lost in the mountain of other problems with the instructions and installation script.

I've found my experience with these cards to be ironic. Even though I've worked on UNIX systems since 1983, I could not get these drivers for Linux to work for the past 2 months. I have not used Windows since NT and Win2000, yet I was able to install Windows Server 2012 on one of the machines and get the card crunching in less than an hour. It has been a personal insight into the Catch-22 of lackluster support from hardware vendors for Linux users. Ubuntu is the platform of choice for a majority of Cloud projects, but many organizations that have been using Ubuntu on their own hardware are now rethinking the total cost of ownership compared to using Windows. For Cloud projects, you don't have worry about hardware nor its lack of support, so Ubuntu marches along. For onsite hardware, vendors defend their lackluster support for Linux due to a lack of demand from users, while their poor support forces their customers to use Windows. Governments in Brazil, Germany, Spain and Italy that has chosen Open Source alternatives are now reconsidering Windows.

A Reluctant Windows user,
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Message 1836815 - Posted: 18 Dec 2016, 17:51:33 UTC - in response to Message 1835149.  
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Hi,

Rx 480, Ubuntu 16.04, AMD GPU Pro Driver working fine here :
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=5515


I have to admit that it was not easy to get it work together.
Best way :
Install ubuntu server in text mode
Configure the Network and update - upgrade
Install the (already downloaded) AMD GPU Pro driver from usb stick
Install MATE, Genome or whatever Desktop Environment you want
Install Boinc Packages and don't forget to install the the boinc-amd-opencl package.

Works fine but there are no way to change the GPU settings or even see the Temp, Fan RPM etc.
I found a way with sensors to see the GPU Temp but thats all.
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Message 1852200 - Posted: 1 Mar 2017, 22:30:52 UTC

Greetings!

I am so happy I found this thread.
I have tried Ubuntu 16.04 and am now running 16.10.
But still having problems.

I can not find a definitive answer about amdgpu-pro support of AMD 7750 card (tried on 16.04)
( The AMD website had a link for a download - but wound up in the No video at boot. (I am not sure where to look for the .sh file))

BUT (on 16.10)
I read the the standard MESA drivers had opencl.
Did not work until I add the package: mesa-opencl-icd
Then, boinc could see my GPU. (Yay!)

BUT
the wu failed right off the line. I was testing with Einstein with their GPU task. Seti tasks were not available.
The error in the task report listen an llvm error: cannot select (etc.) AtomicCmpSwap when it exited witihin one second.

So. I'm asking three things:
-- Anyone getting amd gpu oon 01 March out there? (for me to test)
-- Advice on amd drivers for 7000 series?
-- Should I throw out AMD GPU and get a new nvdia? Do the Ubuntu drivers work for them? cuda? opencl?

I am sad to see that Windows is more viable. :-( but probably so.


THANKS in advance
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Message 1852254 - Posted: 2 Mar 2017, 5:09:43 UTC - in response to Message 1852200.  
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Greetings!

I found a answer to my off-tangent question.
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=80263&postid=1816642

tells a lot about AMD support on Ubuntu.

Thanks, Jord!
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Message 1859655 - Posted: 5 Apr 2017, 18:37:53 UTC

AMD is still a nightmare.

I tried to use my new RX460 for Boinc. The result is a destructed packet manager.
To run the Ryzen-CPU I was told better to use Ubuntu17, which is only as beta available - but runs fine so far.
But then i got the idea to use the RX460 for Seti.
The AMDGPU-pro driver started installation and crashed in the middle, stating that the kernel needs an update, but it cannot find the file for this.
Every update or installation of anything ist now impossible.

I hope, that the final Ubuntu17.04 runs better with the AMD driver. Otherwise i had another AMD GPU fail experience like the many others before.
(But Nvidia isn't better, except that it works without contorted manoeuvres...)
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Message 1859667 - Posted: 5 Apr 2017, 19:25:38 UTC - in response to Message 1859655.  
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(But Nvidia isn't better, except that it works without contorted manoeuvres...)
Don't know what to tell ya except there are many of us running nVidia in Ubuntu without any trouble.
In fact, the current #2 User at SETI is using nVidia in Ubuntu, https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=407, up until recently he was #1.
The #1 Host at SETI is using nVidia in Ubuntu, https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/top_hosts.php
It's very simple now that Driver 375.39 is in the repository. Just install Ubuntu 14.04.5, the Driver, the Berkeley BOINC 7.2.42 with it's One dependency, and the CUDA package here, Linux CUDA 8 Special App
Instant success.
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Message 1859681 - Posted: 5 Apr 2017, 20:39:49 UTC - in response to Message 1859667.  

Yes, Nvidia works. Sorry if this was disambigious.
Its more the sum of little things in the daily work with linux (and the fact that i am not a linux expert).
The Desktop is a 1fps-experience when the GPU is working on Seti (in Windows not so extremely and only with OpenCL) - so i have to stop GPU working when i use the PC.
The driver is easy to update, but hard to downgrade. One application was not amused about the change from 8 to 10 bit color depth and i failed to downgrade the driver AND cuda to a working version.
That was the reason i tried AMD again. But at the moment it seems nearly not to work and i hope for the version 17.04 of Ubuntu the next days - last try before going back to Nvidia.
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Message 1859691 - Posted: 5 Apr 2017, 21:18:22 UTC - in response to Message 1859681.  
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It's not quite so bad with the CUDA App in Ubuntu, as long as you don't try to watch full screen web video ;-) If you keep the video in a normal sized web page, or VLC window, it's watchable. That's with an Older Core2 Quad, it should be better with a newer CPU. With the OpenCL App it is pretty bad, even on my ATI host with the older 6800 cards. The newer ATI cards aren't so bad using the Older FGLRX drivers, I haven't tried the AMD Pro drivers. I usually use the Mac for daily work, and that plays Full screen video without any trouble while running the CUDA tasks. Of course, the Mac has 8 real CPU cores and runs only 4 CPU tasks.
I did forget about the CUDA 8.0 Libraries. You have to 'acquire' the CUDA 8 libs to go along with the CUDA App. I think there is a link in the Linux CUDA Special thread.
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Message 1859695 - Posted: 5 Apr 2017, 21:34:50 UTC

I`m running a R9 380 on Mint 18.1 which is based on Ubuntu 16.04 and AMD GPU Pro driver 16.40.
No problems with crunching and watching full size videos at the same time.


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Message 1859843 - Posted: 6 Apr 2017, 17:27:34 UTC

Than i will try to install Ubuntu16.04, but i fear that it will not run on the Ryzen.
Waiting for AMD to deliver a driver for Ubuntu 17.04 is the other option. But for 16.10 (from october2016) there's no driver available until now, this could be a very long time to wait.
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Message 1860472 - Posted: 9 Apr 2017, 2:34:14 UTC

Try the new AMD driver, is now working for me under Ubuntu 16.10.

http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Driver-for-Linux-Release-Notes.aspx

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Message 1860801 - Posted: 10 Apr 2017, 21:47:15 UTC

Ubuntu16 did not find my SSD.
The Ryzen-Mainboard seems to be too new.
So i had to install Ubuntu17 again.
Maybe the new driver will work, its also 17.x, thats a good omen. ;)
Thanks for the news.
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Message 1862877 - Posted: 22 Apr 2017, 10:09:08 UTC - in response to Message 1860801.  

Today i installed the new Ubuntu 17.04.
I use the included driver, only added the boinc-client-opencl package.
This was a little bit successful, the GPU is recognized by Boinc. :)

Sa 22 Apr 2017 11:51:22 CEST |  | Starting BOINC client version 7.6.33 for x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
Sa 22 Apr 2017 11:51:22 CEST |  | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
Sa 22 Apr 2017 11:51:22 CEST |  | Libraries: libcurl/7.52.1 OpenSSL/1.0.2g zlib/1.2.11 libidn2/0.16 libpsl/0.17.0 (+libidn2/0.16) librtmp/2.3
Sa 22 Apr 2017 11:51:22 CEST |  | Data directory: /var/lib/boinc-client
Sa 22 Apr 2017 11:51:22 CEST |  | OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 0: AMD POLARIS11 (DRM 3.9.0 / 4.10.0-19-generic, LLVM 4.0.0) (driver version 17.0.3, device version OpenCL 1.1 Mesa 17.0.3, 2046MB, 2046MB available, 1366 GFLOPS peak)
Sa 22 Apr 2017 11:51:22 CEST |  | Host name: AZen
Sa 22 Apr 2017 11:51:22 CEST |  | Processor: 16 AuthenticAMD AMD Ryzen 7 1700 Eight-Core Processor [Family 23 Model 1 Stepping 1]
Sa 22 Apr 2017 11:51:22 CEST |  | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc extd_apicid aperfmperf pni pclmulqdq monitor ssse3 fma cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 movbe popcnt aes xsave avx f16c rdrand lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw skinit wdt tce topoext perfctr_core perfctr_nb bpext perfctr_l2 mwaitx hw_pstate vmmcall fsgsbase bmi1 avx2 smep bmi2 rdseed adx smap clflushopt sha_ni xsaveopt xsavec xgetbv1 xsaves clzero irperf arat npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save tsc_scale vmcb_clean flushbyasid decodeassists pausefilter pfthreshold avic overflow_recov succor smca
Sa 22 Apr 2017 11:51:22 CEST |  | OS: Linux: 4.10.0-19-generic


The only problem is - i dont get any workunit:
And no hint, why (normally there is a statement like "no work available" )

Sa 22 Apr 2017 12:01:09 CEST | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
Sa 22 Apr 2017 12:01:09 CEST | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for AMD/ATI GPU
Sa 22 Apr 2017 12:01:12 CEST | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks


Any idea, what is going wrong?
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Message 1862898 - Posted: 22 Apr 2017, 12:26:17 UTC - in response to Message 1862877.  

For some reason I think OpenCL v 1.2 is required.
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