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Message 1902950 - Posted: 26 Nov 2017, 3:37:23 UTC

I don't believe I've seen this type of Inconclusive previously. The v8.08 (alt) Windows CPU app reported a Triplet that the Special App doesn't seem to have recognized at all. Even the Best Triplet reported by the Special App shows "peak=0".

Workunit 2757131579 (blc25_2bit_guppi_57895_51266_HIP2_0039.24131.818.24.47.42.vlar)
Task 6189093728 (S=6, A=1, P=6, T=0, G=0, BS=26.20532, BG=0) x41p_zi3v, Cuda 9.00 special
Task 6189093729 (S=6, A=1, P=6, T=1, G=0, BS=26.20529, BG=0) v8.08 (alt) windows_x86_64

The missing signal is:
Triplet: peak=10.93743, time=34.56, period=20.22, d_freq=2201264522.54, chirp=-14.715, fft_len=512

It looks like the tiebreaker will also run with v8.08 (alt), so it would be helpful if someone can run this WU with one or more other apps. I can probably run it with the stock Windows CPU app tomorrow but, theoretically, that should agree with the alternate Windows CPU app.
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Message 1902962 - Posted: 26 Nov 2017, 6:17:50 UTC - in response to Message 1902950.  
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Well, there is no such thing as best non-reportable triplet.
So, if it missed reporatble it's OK that best is zero. Missed signal itself isn't OK though.
I'll check this task with different apps.

And regarding any OpenCL bug fixing - thinngs don't go well so far. I'm able to build working CPU binariesalready with VS2017, but attempt tobuild OpenCL one versus Intel's SDK failed spectacularly. There is number of incompatibilities with app's header files. Some of them from oclFFT library...
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Message 1902964 - Posted: 26 Nov 2017, 7:05:35 UTC - in response to Message 1902950.  
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I don't believe I've seen this type of Inconclusive previously...
Actually, we've seen it quite a bit. It sometimes happens when you see this in the results;
Restarted at 30.64 percent, with setiathome enhanced x41p_zi3v, Cuda 9.00 special
It's even in the README,
6) The App may give Incorrect results on a restarted task. One way to avoid restarted tasks is to set the checkpoint higher than the task's estimated run-time, and also avoid suspending a task.
Missed that one did ya? Until Petri gets a chance to fix the checkpointing you might want to move your checkpoint times a little higher. I ran it with my GPU, without a restart, and it matched my CPU,
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Autocorr: peak=18.18838, time=62.99, delay=2.9876, d_freq=2201261727.47, chirp=-2.7683, fft_len=128k
Pulse: peak=3.815869, time=45.86, period=9.093, d_freq=2201256231.14, score=1.018, chirp=11.355, fft_len=1024 
Pulse: peak=4.737066, time=45.84, period=9.686, d_freq=2201258411.08, score=1.044, chirp=-14.715, fft_len=512 
Triplet: peak=10.93747, time=34.56, period=20.22, d_freq=2201264522.54, chirp=-14.715, fft_len=512 
Spike: peak=25.19361, time=5.727, d_freq=2201263188.56, chirp=17.945, fft_len=128k
Spike: peak=26.20529, time=5.727, d_freq=2201263188.57, chirp=17.946, fft_len=128k
Spike: peak=26.08345, time=5.727, d_freq=2201263188.58, chirp=17.948, fft_len=128k
Spike: peak=24.86258, time=5.727, d_freq=2201263188.59, chirp=17.949, fft_len=128k
Pulse: peak=2.708074, time=45.84, period=4.787, d_freq=2201259393.53, score=1.009, chirp=36.466, fft_len=512 
Pulse: peak=7.60402, time=45.99, period=18.85, d_freq=2201267130.34, score=1.03, chirp=-37.765, fft_len=4k
Pulse: peak=1.263832, time=45.86, period=1.535, d_freq=2201263339.07, score=1.03, chirp=42.064, fft_len=1024 
Pulse: peak=2.37489, time=45.82, period=4.289, d_freq=2201263569.34, score=1.015, chirp=80.288, fft_len=256 
Spike: peak=24.37914, time=10.02, d_freq=2201262803.27, chirp=83.569, fft_len=32k
Spike: peak=24.39295, time=10.02, d_freq=2201262803.23, chirp=83.671, fft_len=32k

Best spike: peak=26.20529, time=5.727, d_freq=2201263188.57, chirp=17.946, fft_len=128k
Best autocorr: peak=18.18838, time=62.99, delay=2.9876, d_freq=2201261727.47, chirp=-2.7683, fft_len=128k
Best gaussian: peak=0, mean=0, ChiSq=0, time=-2.124e+11, d_freq=0,
	score=-12, null_hyp=0, chirp=0, fft_len=0 
Best pulse: peak=4.737066, time=45.84, period=9.686, d_freq=2201258411.08, score=1.044, chirp=-14.715, fft_len=512 
Best triplet: peak=10.93747, time=34.56, period=20.22, d_freq=2201264522.54, chirp=-14.715, fft_len=512 
Spike count:    6
Autocorr count: 1
Pulse count:    6
Triplet count:  1
Gaussian count: 0

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Starting benchmark run...
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Listing wu-file(s) in /testWUs :
blc25_2bit_guppi_57895_51266_HIP2_0039.24131.818.24.47.42.vlar.wu

Listing executable(s) in /APPS :
setiathome_x41p_zi3v_x86_64-apple-darwin_cuda90

Listing executable in /REF_APPs :
MBv8_8.22r3711_sse41_x86_64-apple-darwin
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Current WU: blc25_2bit_guppi_57895_51266_HIP2_0039.24131.818.24.47.42.vlar.wu
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Skipping default app MBv8_8.22r3711_sse41_x86_64-apple-darwin, displaying saved result(s)
Elapsed Time: ………………………………… 6585 seconds
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Running app with command : setiathome_x41p_zi3v_x86_64-apple-darwin_cuda90 -nobs -device 0
      303.53 real       266.39 user        32.97 sys
Elapsed Time : ……………………………… 304 seconds
Speed compared to default : 2166 %
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Comparing results
Result      : Strongly similar,  Q= 99.27%
---------------------------------------------------
Done with blc25_2bit_guppi_57895_51266_HIP2_0039.24131.818.24.47.42.vlar.wu.


Raistmer, has anyone reported problems running your current AKv8 code with GCC 6.3? It seems to be failing in my Ubuntu 17.04, and there might be problems with GCC 5.4 as well. I was successful using the GCC 4.9.2 in Ubuntu 15.04. There might be an AVX2 Ryzen CPU App running around shortly even though I couldn't compile it in the recommended version of GCC. It's even possible it will have a twin Intel AVX2 CPU App to play with. Anyone interested in testing an AVX2 CPU App in Linux?
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Message 1902972 - Posted: 26 Nov 2017, 8:01:10 UTC - in response to Message 1902964.  


Raistmer, has anyone reported problems running your current AKv8 code with GCC 6.3? It seems to be failing in my Ubuntu 17.04, and there might be problems with GCC 5.4 as well. I was successful using the GCC 4.9.2 in Ubuntu 15.04. There might be an AVX2 Ryzen CPU App running around shortly even though I couldn't compile it in the recommended version of GCC. It's even possible it will have a twin Intel AVX2 CPU App to play with. Anyone interested in testing an AVX2 CPU App in Linux?


I have the AMD AVX2 app running as Reference now with the Intel AVX2 app running as Test. Results should be available in the morning.

Can anyone give me some simple instructions on how to get the download fanout generator working? I read through the instruction in the macro but it isn't getting anything. I wanted a early overflow task of one of mine I already processed for another test WU.
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Message 1902977 - Posted: 26 Nov 2017, 8:26:26 UTC - in response to Message 1902964.  

6) The App may give Incorrect results on a restarted task. One way to avoid restarted tasks is to set the checkpoint higher than the task's estimated run-time, and also avoid suspending a task.

Then doesn't worth to run it offline.


Raistmer, has anyone reported problems running your current AKv8 code with GCC 6.3? It seems to be failing in my Ubuntu 17.04, and there might be problems with GCC 5.4 as well. I was successful using the GCC 4.9.2 in Ubuntu 15.04. There might be an AVX2 Ryzen CPU App running around shortly even though I couldn't compile it in the recommended version of GCC. It's even possible it will have a twin Intel AVX2 CPU App to play with. Anyone interested in testing an AVX2 CPU App in Linux?

No AFAIK.
Regarding AVX2 - if optimizing compiler really good there could be some speedup but in general AVX2 adds integer instructions to AVX set so not very useful for SETI.
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Message 1902978 - Posted: 26 Nov 2017, 8:30:49 UTC - in response to Message 1902964.  
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Until Petri gets a chance to fix the checkpointing you might want to move your checkpoint times a little higher.

Preferable short-term solution would be to disable checkpointing in app's code at all then to have each user to change settings.
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Message 1902979 - Posted: 26 Nov 2017, 8:59:35 UTC - in response to Message 1902977.  


No AFAIK.
Regarding AVX2 - if optimizing compiler really good there could be some speedup but in general AVX2 adds integer instructions to AVX set so not very useful for SETI.

The early results are looking very favorable for a significant performance increase for the AVX2 app over the SSE41 app and the AVX app. So compiler optimizations must be having an effect.
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Message 1903008 - Posted: 26 Nov 2017, 16:55:34 UTC - in response to Message 1902964.  

I don't believe I've seen this type of Inconclusive previously...
Actually, we've seen it quite a bit. It sometimes happens when you see this in the results;
Restarted at 30.64 percent, with setiathome enhanced x41p_zi3v, Cuda 9.00 special
It's even in the README,
6) The App may give Incorrect results on a restarted task. One way to avoid restarted tasks is to set the checkpoint higher than the task's estimated run-time, and also avoid suspending a task.
Missed that one did ya? Until Petri gets a chance to fix the checkpointing you might want to move your checkpoint times a little higher. I ran it with my GPU, without a restart, and it matched my CPU,
Nope, didn't miss it, but this result is just the opposite from the problems I've seen caused by a Special App restart. In this WU, the app apparently missed a Triplet. Every other Triplet issue I've seen from the Special App following a restart (and I reported on it months ago) involves the reporting of a massive number of bogus Triplets following the restart, all of them with "peak=nan", leading to an overflow that results in an Invalid. I still see from 1 to 3 of these a week. I've also explained why I use a 120 second checkpoint interval as a compromise. Anything more than that, I lose more overall processing time from my normal weekday restarts than I would gain from avoiding the Special App's restart problems.

And BTW, if you were to actually take a close look at where in the Stderr the Triplet was reported by the CPU app, you might notice that it falls between the first and second Pulse. Even on your GPU run, it falls immediately after the second Pulse and before the 4 Spikes. All of those signals were successfully reported by the Cuda9 zi3v before the restart, so it's not unreasonable to wonder where the Triplet went.
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Message 1903045 - Posted: 26 Nov 2017, 20:42:48 UTC - in response to Message 1902977.  

Regarding AVX2 - if optimizing compiler really good there could be some speedup but in general AVX2 adds integer instructions to AVX set so not very useful for SETI.
I seem to recall you saying something similar back in February about the Mac AVX2 App. Right up to when it was tested, here, https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=80359&postid=1845916#1845916

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Starting benchmark run...
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Listing wu-file(s) in /testWUs :
18dc09ah.26284.16432.6.33.125.wu reference_work_unit_r3215.wu

Listing executable(s) in /APPS :
MBv8_8.22r3605_avx2_x86_64-apple-darwin

Listing executable in /REF_APPs :
MBv8_8.06r3366_avx_x86_64-apple-darwin
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Current WU: 18dc09ah.26284.16432.6.33.125.wu
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Running default app with command : MBv8_8.06r3366_avx_x86_64-apple-darwin
1529.77 real 1522.93 user 1.39 sys
Elapsed Time: ………………………………… 1530 seconds
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Running app with command : MBv8_8.22r3605_avx2_x86_64-apple-darwin
1328.03 real 1321.80 user 1.40 sys
Elapsed Time : ……………………………… 1328 seconds
Speed compared to default : 115 %
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Comparing results
Result : Strongly similar, Q= 100.0%
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From what I've seen the Linux AVX2 App has similar improvements.
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Message 1903048 - Posted: 26 Nov 2017, 20:54:34 UTC - in response to Message 1903008.  
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I don't believe I've seen this type of Inconclusive previously...
Actually, we've seen it quite a bit. It sometimes happens when you see this in the results;
Restarted at 30.64 percent, with setiathome enhanced x41p_zi3v, Cuda 9.00 special
It's even in the README,
6) The App may give Incorrect results on a restarted task. One way to avoid restarted tasks is to set the checkpoint higher than the task's estimated run-time, and also avoid suspending a task.
Missed that one did ya? Until Petri gets a chance to fix the checkpointing you might want to move your checkpoint times a little higher. I ran it with my GPU, without a restart, and it matched my CPU,
Nope, didn't miss it, but this result is just the opposite from the problems I've seen caused by a Special App restart. In this WU, the app apparently missed a Triplet. Every other Triplet issue I've seen from the Special App following a restart (and I reported on it months ago) involves the reporting of a massive number of bogus Triplets following the restart, all of them with "peak=nan", leading to an overflow that results in an Invalid. I still see from 1 to 3 of these a week. I've also explained why I use a 120 second checkpoint interval as a compromise. Anything more than that, I lose more overall processing time from my normal weekday restarts than I would gain from avoiding the Special App's restart problems.

And BTW, if you were to actually take a close look at where in the Stderr the Triplet was reported by the CPU app, you might notice that it falls between the first and second Pulse. Even on your GPU run, it falls immediately after the second Pulse and before the 4 Spikes. All of those signals were successfully reported by the Cuda9 zi3v before the restart, so it's not unreasonable to wonder where the Triplet went.
If you knew it was a Restart, then Why Not Mention it? Surely you would consider other people would mention it. I did better than notice where the Triplet was located, I ran ran the Task on My GPU to see how it reported. Mine reported Normally, I suggest you run the task again on Your GPU and see if it has the same problem when not restarted, if it does, You might have another problem. It's a good thing I'm not so stingy when it comes to GPU time, else we might not even have an App to test.

You seem to have a problem with the Serial CPU & Parallel GPU reporting. They Do Not report found signals in the same order. As long as there are less than 30 signals in the WU it isn't a problem. The problem only arises when there are over 30 signals in a WU such as with an Aborted Overflow, or a Restarted task when they are caught looking at different parts of the WU. If the serial CPU and Parallel GPU look at the same part of the WU they will find the Same signals in total, they Don't look at the same parts during processing.
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Message 1903066 - Posted: 26 Nov 2017, 23:08:12 UTC - in response to Message 1903045.  

From what I've seen the Linux AVX2 App has similar improvements.

Good for GCC. Hope you compare apples to apples and used SAME GCC version and SAME FFTW version for comparison between AVX2 and AVX binaries.
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Message 1903069 - Posted: 26 Nov 2017, 23:39:00 UTC - in response to Message 1903048.  

Okay, so the bottom line is that the Special App can not only report bogus signals (Triplets and Spikes) following a restart, which has been discussed previously, it can also miss signals that should have been reported, as in this example. That's good to know and just means that Petri needs to be looking at both situations when he gets around to trying to pin down the restart problems.
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Message 1903270 - Posted: 28 Nov 2017, 3:52:18 UTC

Alright, here's an unusual Inconclusive involving Triplets that does not have a restart in the mix.

Workunit 2760143363 (26ja07aa.30143.294304.16.43.191)
Task 6195365750 (S=1, A=0, P=0, T=19, G=0, BS=24.22082, BG=0) x41p_zi3v, Cuda 9.00 special
Task 6195365751 (S=1, A=0, P=0, T=20, G=0, BS=24.22082, BG=0) v8.22 (opencl_nvidia_SoG) windows_intelx86

What looks really odd to me are two Triplets in the SoG app's output.

Triplet: peak=9.234034, time=28.66, period=0.06226, d_freq=1419366068.31, chirp=92.974, fft_len=32
Triplet: peak=9.234034, time=28.67, period=0.0639, d_freq=1419366068.47, chirp=92.974, fft_len=32

The peaks are identical and the other values nearly so. The Cuda9 zi3v only reported the first of the two, so that's where the discrepancy lies. It'll be up to the tiebreaker (assigned to the stock Windows CPU app) to render a verdict as to whether the Cuda9 app actually missed a Triplet or if the SoG app just stuttered somehow.
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Message 1903394 - Posted: 29 Nov 2017, 4:04:36 UTC - in response to Message 1903270.  

Looks like the Windows CPU app confirmed the SoG results, reporting a total of 20 Triplets. Perhaps when the Special App found that second Triplet with the same peak, it thought it was a duplicate and discarded it. Might be worth looking at, though probably not as high a priority as some other issues.
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Message 1903414 - Posted: 29 Nov 2017, 6:09:36 UTC
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Regarding blc25_2bit_guppi_57895_47387_HIP91358_0034.24610.818.23.46.191.vlar.wu thatwas postedinthis thread some time ago:
I confirmed disagreement between current stock windows builds on this task.
MB8_win_x64_SSE3amd_VS2017_r3713.exe -nog / blc25_2bit_guppi_57895_47387_HIP91358_0034.24610.818.23.46.191.vlar.wu : 

R2: .\ref\ref-setiathome_8.00_windows_intelx86.exe-blc25_2bit_guppi_57895_47387_HIP91358_0034.24610.818.23.46.191.vlar.wu.res 
                ------------- R1:R2 ------------     ------------- R2:R1 ------------
                Exact  Super  Tight  Good    Bad     Exact  Super  Tight  Good    Bad
        Spike      0      5      5      5      0        0      5      5      5      0
     Autocorr      0      0      0      0      0        0      0      0      0      0
     Gaussian      0      0      0      0      0        0      0      0      0      0
        Pulse      0     10     10     10      0        0     10     10     10      1
      Triplet      0      3      3      3      0        0      3      3      3      0
   Best Spike      0      1      1      1      0        0      1      1      1      0
Best Autocorr      0      1      1      1      0        0      1      1      1      0
Best Gaussian      1      1      1      1      0        1      1      1      1      0
   Best Pulse      0      1      1      1      0        0      1      1      1      0
 Best Triplet      0      1      1      1      0        0      1      1      1      0
                ----   ----   ----   ----   ----     ----   ----   ----   ----   ----
                   1     23     23     23      0        1     23     23     23      1

Unmatched signal(s) in R2 at line(s) 491
For R1:R2 matched signals only, Q= 99.94%
Result      : Weakly similar.
 
R2: .\ref\ref-setiathome_8.05_windows_x86_64.exe-blc25_2bit_guppi_57895_47387_HIP91358_0034.24610.818.23.46.191.vlar.wu.res 
Result      : Strongly similar,  Q= 99.98%
 
R2: .\ref\ref-setiathome_8.08_windows_x86_64__alt.exe-blc25_2bit_guppi_57895_47387_HIP91358_0034.24610.818.23.46.191.vlar.wu.res 
Result      : Strongly similar,  Q= 99.98%
 
R2: .\ref\ref-setiathome_8.20_windows_intelx86__opencl_intel_gpu_sah.exe-blc25_2bit_guppi_57895_47387_HIP91358_0034.24610.818.23.46.191.vlar.wu.res 
                ------------- R1:R2 ------------     ------------- R2:R1 ------------
                Exact  Super  Tight  Good    Bad     Exact  Super  Tight  Good    Bad
        Spike      0      5      5      5      0        0      5      5      5      0
     Autocorr      0      0      0      0      0        0      0      0      0      0
     Gaussian      0      0      0      0      0        0      0      0      0      0
        Pulse      0      9     10     10      0        0      9     10     10      0
      Triplet      0      3      3      3      0        0      3      3      3      0
   Best Spike      0      1      1      1      0        0      1      1      1      0
Best Autocorr      0      1      1      1      0        0      1      1      1      0
Best Gaussian      1      1      1      1      0        1      1      1      1      0
   Best Pulse      0      1      1      1      0        0      1      1      1      0
 Best Triplet      0      1      1      1      0        0      1      1      1      0
                ----   ----   ----   ----   ----     ----   ----   ----   ----   ----
                   1     22     23     23      0        1     22     23     23      0

Result      : Strongly similar,  Q= 98.96%

So, some of stock consider result of fresh buid fully correct, some disagree.
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Message 1903418 - Posted: 29 Nov 2017, 6:23:29 UTC - in response to Message 1903414.  
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I suggest to move to separate thread for this task.
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=82269&postid=1903422
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Message 1904094 - Posted: 1 Dec 2017, 14:08:58 UTC - in response to Message 1903418.  

I took the time to install Ubuntu 17.10 with GCC 7.2.0 and run the same line that works with GCC 4.9.2.
You might want to look it over, it's about the same as what you get with GCC 6.3.x and lists 612 errors.
AKv8_GCC-7.2.0_Errors.zip
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Message 1905807 - Posted: 9 Dec 2017, 3:36:59 UTC

Here's an unusual Inconclusive where the Special App, running on one of my machines, reported 2 Gaussians which the SoG app did not.

Workunit 2764926755 (14fe07ab.5355.16841.5.32.110)
Task 6205405922 (S=18, A=1, P=0, T=4, G=7, BS=27.00169, BG=3.570737) x41p_zi3v, Cuda 9.00 special
Task 6205405923 (S=18, A=1, P=0, T=4, G=5, BS=27.00167, BG=3.570736) v8.22 (opencl_nvidia_SoG) windows_intelx86

The 7 Gaussians reported by the Special App are:
Gaussian: peak=3.506042, mean=0.5093156, ChiSq=1.364717, time=96.47, d_freq=1421071421.02,
	score=3.369742, null_hyp=2.403931, chirp=-30.175, fft_len=16k
Gaussian: peak=3.570737, mean=0.5002306, ChiSq=1.32693, time=98.15, d_freq=1421071370.4,
	score=4.532304, null_hyp=2.442002, chirp=-30.175, fft_len=16k
Gaussian: peak=3.376572, mean=0.5267106, ChiSq=1.407839, time=62.91, d_freq=1421075607.9,
	score=1.498692, null_hyp=2.332992, chirp=51.563, fft_len=16k
Gaussian: peak=3.437077, mean=0.5095716, ChiSq=1.392497, time=64.59, d_freq=1421075694.4,
	score=3.369557, null_hyp=2.420066, chirp=51.563, fft_len=16k
Gaussian: peak=3.405566, mean=0.5179273, ChiSq=1.419629, time=66.27, d_freq=1421075780.91,
	score=2.323027, null_hyp=2.382857, chirp=51.563, fft_len=16k
Gaussian: peak=3.506042, mean=0.5093156, ChiSq=1.364717, time=96.47, d_freq=1421069540.57,
	score=3.369742, null_hyp=2.403931, chirp=51.563, fft_len=16k
Gaussian: peak=3.570737, mean=0.5002306, ChiSq=1.32693, time=98.15, d_freq=1421069627.08,
	score=4.532304, null_hyp=2.442002, chirp=51.563, fft_len=16k

The SoG app also reported the first 5 of these. What makes the 2 extra reported by SoG rather intriguing is that almost all the reported values, except for d_freq and chirp, are identical to the first 2 reported.

Following the Gaussians, each app reported 10 more Spikes which, for the SoG, app brought the total signals to 28. However, because of the 2 extra Gaussians, the Special App just barely reached the 30-signal threshold to become a -9 overflow.

It looks like the stock Cuda42 app has been assigned the tiebreaker.
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Message 1906250 - Posted: 10 Dec 2017, 18:34:01 UTC
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This is what you are talking about?

https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=2771602375

Did I need to make any adjust from my side?
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Message 1906253 - Posted: 10 Dec 2017, 19:07:37 UTC - in response to Message 1906250.  
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No, those don't seem to have anything to do with the app. I see them on my machines from time to time, usually associated with a sudden system shutdown and restart, often due to a power outage. I don't know that there's anything you can do, unless the shutdown was voluntary, in which case exitting BOINC first before shutting down would probably avoid them.

EDIT: Then there are Invalids like this one, https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=6214250418, where the Special App is very much at fault. All those Spikes reported after the restart are phantoms, not reported by your wingmen. The only thing you can do from your end is to either restart as seldom as possible, or change your checkpoint interval to a value that's greater than your normal task run time. That forces tasks to always restart from the beginning. I don't really subscribe to that approach, because overall I would lose more processing time on all the restarted tasks than I would gain from avoiding the Invalids. I keep my checkpoint interval at 120 seconds. However, that option is there if you want to choose that route.

EDIT2: And I see you have another type of Invalid that originates with the Special App, https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=6213403484. The newer versions changed the processing sequence such that on some overflow tasks, the Special App reports all (or almost all) 30 signals as Triplets, while all other apps report all (or mostly all) Pulses. There's nothing at all you can do about these.
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