The Way Ahead too...

Message boards : Politics : The Way Ahead too...
Message board moderation

To post messages, you must log in.

Previous · 1 . . . 13 · 14 · 15 · 16 · 17 · 18 · 19 . . . 25 · Next

AuthorMessage
Profile Ex: "Socialist"
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 12 Mar 12
Posts: 3433
Credit: 2,616,158
RAC: 2
United States
Message 1846186 - Posted: 3 Feb 2017, 15:29:37 UTC - in response to Message 1846178.  

What next? Spying on your neighbours/work colleagues?

Is history about to repeat itself?

As soon as this 'point-and-yell' attitude enters politics and involves some sort of officer- yes.
#resist
ID: 1846186 · Report as offensive
Profile KWSN - MajorKong
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 5 Jan 00
Posts: 2892
Credit: 1,499,890
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1846206 - Posted: 3 Feb 2017, 16:23:56 UTC - in response to Message 1846178.  
Last modified: 3 Feb 2017, 16:29:25 UTC

What next? Spying on your neighbours/work colleagues?

Is history about to repeat itself?


LOL...



Oh we're meeting at the courthouse at eight o'clock tonight
You just come in the door and take the first turn to the right
Be careful when you get there, we'd hate to be bereft
But we're taking down the names of everybody turning left

Oh we're the John Birch Society, the John Birch Society
Here to save our country from a communistic plot
Join the John Birch Society, help us fill the ranks
To get this movement started, we need lots of tools and cranks

Now there's no one that we're certain the Kremlin doesn't touch
We think that Westbrook Pegler doth protest a bit too much
We only hail the hero from whom we got our name
We're not sure what he did, but he's our hero all the same

Oh we're the John Birch Society, the John Birch Society
Socialism is the ism dismalist of all
Join the John Birch Society, there's so much to do
Have you heard they're serving vodka at the W.C.T.U.

Well you've heard about the agents that we've already named
Well M.C.A. has agents that are flatly unashamed
We're after Rosie Clooney, we've gotten Pinky Lee
And the day we get Red Skelton won't that be a victory

Oh we're the John Birch Society, the John Birch Society
Norman Vincent Peale may think he's kidding us along
But the John Birch Society knows he spilled the beans
He keeps on preaching brotherhood, but we know what he means

We'll teach you how to spot 'em in the cities or the sticks
For even Jasper Junction is just full of Bolsheviks
The CIA's subversive and so's the FCC
There's no one left but thee and we, and we're not sure of thee

Oh we're the John Birch Society, the John Birch Society
Here to save our country from a Communistic plot
Join the John Birch Society, holding off the Reds
We'll use our hands and hearts, and if we must, we'll use our heads

[Background]
O beautiful, for spacious skies, for amber waves of grain

[Spoken:]
Do you want Justice Warren to be your Commissar?
Do you want Mrs. Khrushchev in there with the DAR?
You cannot trust your neighbors, or even next-of-kin

If mommy is a Commie then you gotta turn her in

Oh we're the John Birch Society, the John Birch Society
Fighting for the right to fight the right fight for the right
Join the John Birch Society, as we're marching on
We'll all be glad to see you when we're meeting in the John
In the John, in the John Birch Society


THE CHAD MITCHELL TRIO
"The John Birch Society"

https://youtu.be/pG6taS9R1KM
https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

#Texit

Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.
ID: 1846206 · Report as offensive
Profile shizaru
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 14 Jun 04
Posts: 1130
Credit: 1,967,904
RAC: 0
Greece
Message 1848149 - Posted: 12 Feb 2017, 0:06:32 UTC

Missed you guys!

- - - - - -

So I guess Juncker lost any political capital he had left:

EU chief Jean-Claude Juncker 'will not seek second term'
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38944742

On a side note, the UK - to it's credit - has started to figure out Tony Blair was a scam... Maybe I'll live to see the day when people figure out Bill & Barack were too.
ID: 1848149 · Report as offensive
W-K 666 Project Donor
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 18 May 99
Posts: 19171
Credit: 40,757,560
RAC: 67
United Kingdom
Message 1848150 - Posted: 12 Feb 2017, 0:09:28 UTC - in response to Message 1848149.  

Missed you guys!

- - - - - -

So I guess Juncker lost any political capital he had left:

EU chief Jean-Claude Juncker 'will not seek second term'
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38944742

On a side note, the UK - to it's credit - has started to figure out Tony Blair was a scam... Maybe I'll live to see the day when people figure out Bill & Barack were too.

Did he predict the break up of the EU as well in that interview.
ID: 1848150 · Report as offensive
Sirius B Project Donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 24886
Credit: 3,081,182
RAC: 7
Ireland
Message 1848152 - Posted: 12 Feb 2017, 0:13:32 UTC - in response to Message 1848150.  

Was just about to answer Alex :-)

Yes he did!

"He also said he thought the EU's remaining 27 members could struggle to stay united as they negotiated with Britain over the terms of its exit from the EU. "

Funny thing is that he's not seeking a 2nd term in 2019 - Is that because we're out by then?
ID: 1848152 · Report as offensive
W-K 666 Project Donor
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 18 May 99
Posts: 19171
Credit: 40,757,560
RAC: 67
United Kingdom
Message 1848157 - Posted: 12 Feb 2017, 0:31:39 UTC - in response to Message 1848152.  
Last modified: 12 Feb 2017, 0:31:53 UTC

Was just about to answer Alex :-)

Yes he did!

"He also said he thought the EU's remaining 27 members could struggle to stay united as they negotiated with Britain over the terms of its exit from the EU. "

Funny thing is that he's not seeking a 2nd term in 2019 - Is that because we're out by then?

No.
He's shown in the past, he knows when to jump ship so the blame is minimised.
ID: 1848157 · Report as offensive
Sirius B Project Donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 24886
Credit: 3,081,182
RAC: 7
Ireland
Message 1848161 - Posted: 12 Feb 2017, 0:47:15 UTC - in response to Message 1848157.  

...or...

...he's finally woken up to the fact that he was of great assistance to Brexit & does not want to be around when the EU falls :-)
ID: 1848161 · Report as offensive
Profile shizaru
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 14 Jun 04
Posts: 1130
Credit: 1,967,904
RAC: 0
Greece
Message 1848167 - Posted: 12 Feb 2017, 1:19:58 UTC - in response to Message 1848161.  

Narcissists never "wake up" to "facts" when it's their own ass that's on the line.

Survival instinct must have kicked in for the other handful of psychos running the EU and they're forcing him out.

It's too late to do them any good though :)
ID: 1848167 · Report as offensive
Sirius B Project Donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 24886
Credit: 3,081,182
RAC: 7
Ireland
Message 1848170 - Posted: 12 Feb 2017, 1:34:38 UTC - in response to Message 1848167.  

...or maybe he's looking to becoming the chairman of this?

Another sinkhole for the Euro to disappear into
ID: 1848170 · Report as offensive
Profile shizaru
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 14 Jun 04
Posts: 1130
Credit: 1,967,904
RAC: 0
Greece
Message 1848191 - Posted: 12 Feb 2017, 2:17:49 UTC
Last modified: 12 Feb 2017, 2:23:06 UTC

I honestly haven't read a single news article since I last saw you guys... and wasn't planning to either. But yesterday I got suckered in again because of a really good book... Well, really good 'till Chapter 2 TBH 'cause that's as far as I've gotten and just had to come running in to share.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Books/Great-Deception-Can-European-Union-survive-Referendum/1472939662/

If I wasn't living paycheck-to-paycheck I'd send you and WinterKnight a copy :)

(And I wouldn't be at all surprised if you already read it ages ago)
ID: 1848191 · Report as offensive
Sirius B Project Donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 24886
Credit: 3,081,182
RAC: 7
Ireland
Message 1848194 - Posted: 12 Feb 2017, 2:26:40 UTC - in response to Message 1848191.  

Sorry Alex, already got my copy :-)

What I did find funny was that the concept for a European Union was actually the brainchild of a British snivel serpent in 1920.

Don't know how I missed that when it 1st came out in 2005, but got a copy earlier this week while in London. :-)
ID: 1848194 · Report as offensive
Profile shizaru
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 14 Jun 04
Posts: 1130
Credit: 1,967,904
RAC: 0
Greece
Message 1848197 - Posted: 12 Feb 2017, 2:34:14 UTC - in response to Message 1848194.  
Last modified: 12 Feb 2017, 2:35:00 UTC

Wow, you're still up!

Yeah I messed up the link and changed it to the updated version.

Some hair-raising quotes in the first 2 chapters. Can't wait to read on (which I'm going to do right now actually).

(I too had NO idea The United States of Europe was an inter-war "thing".)

Glad you've got it!
ID: 1848197 · Report as offensive
Sirius B Project Donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 24886
Credit: 3,081,182
RAC: 7
Ireland
Message 1848202 - Posted: 12 Feb 2017, 2:46:51 UTC - in response to Message 1848197.  

Yeah still up. Out most of the day assessing a new driver. He proved himself so slept through the rest of the day's work. Only read the intros atm & looking forward to reading it all.

As you saw in the series of Europe threads, took a lot of stick so whenever my "superiors" publish similar thoughts I just smile at my detractors.

The sad thing is: It still is a fantastic concept.

Unfortunately, it has been destroyed by fools.
ID: 1848202 · Report as offensive
Sirius B Project Donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 24886
Credit: 3,081,182
RAC: 7
Ireland
Message 1848262 - Posted: 12 Feb 2017, 4:52:00 UTC - in response to Message 1848197.  

Glad you've got it!

Taking a break from reading :-)

Frightening isn't it?

Reminds me of a great series of books...

...One ring to rule them all!

Funny how an anarchistic, rebellious Irish truck driver saw that years ago & gets slapped down. Now that "my peers" are saying the same thing, there is absolute quiet!
ID: 1848262 · Report as offensive
Sirius B Project Donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 24886
Credit: 3,081,182
RAC: 7
Ireland
Message 1848276 - Posted: 12 Feb 2017, 8:03:53 UTC

Sorry if you haven't got this far Alex (C4) :-(

"Without prompting, Britain’s prime minister Attlee had in any case decided there was no way Britain could accept that ‘the most vital economic forces of this country should be handed over to an authority that is utterly undemocratic and is responsible to nobody’. The Cabinet minutes of 2 June 1950 stated:
‘Our position was different from that of the other European countries by reason of our Commonwealth connections, and we should be slow to accept the principle of the French proposal… especially as it appeared to involve some surrender of sovereignty.’

The Treasury’s view was, ‘It is not in our interests to tie ourselves to a corpse.’"

With just 2 exceptions, I cannot believe that every Prime Minister since Clement Atlee did "A Nelson" to the crap being dished out since then :-(

The exceptions were dear old Winnie & Maggie :-)

Oh another thing: The Bilderberg Group was created & funded by the CIA in May 1954 - those pesky Yanks :-(
ID: 1848276 · Report as offensive
Profile KWSN - MajorKong
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 5 Jan 00
Posts: 2892
Credit: 1,499,890
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1848420 - Posted: 13 Feb 2017, 0:33:30 UTC - in response to Message 1848276.  

Sorry if you haven't got this far Alex (C4) :-(

"Without prompting, Britain’s prime minister Attlee had in any case decided there was no way Britain could accept that ‘the most vital economic forces of this country should be handed over to an authority that is utterly undemocratic and is responsible to nobody’. The Cabinet minutes of 2 June 1950 stated:
‘Our position was different from that of the other European countries by reason of our Commonwealth connections, and we should be slow to accept the principle of the French proposal… especially as it appeared to involve some surrender of sovereignty.’

The Treasury’s view was, ‘It is not in our interests to tie ourselves to a corpse.’"

With just 2 exceptions, I cannot believe that every Prime Minister since Clement Atlee did "A Nelson" to the crap being dished out since then :-(

The exceptions were dear old Winnie & Maggie :-)

Oh another thing: The Bilderberg Group was created & funded by the CIA in May 1954 - those pesky Yanks :-(


That book you are discussing sounds interesting... I don't have it, but I do have an ebook copy of one of its source materials (I think).

Salter's 'The United States of Europe'... Very very interesting read.
https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

#Texit

Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.
ID: 1848420 · Report as offensive
Sirius B Project Donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 24886
Credit: 3,081,182
RAC: 7
Ireland
Message 1848487 - Posted: 13 Feb 2017, 8:02:29 UTC - in response to Message 1848420.  
Last modified: 13 Feb 2017, 8:57:51 UTC

That book you are discussing sounds interesting... I don't have it, but I do have an ebook copy of one of its source materials (I think).

Salter's 'The United States of Europe'... Very very interesting read.

Albert Salter provided the blueprint for that, Jean Monnet put it into effect.

"The Great Deception" is one of the best researched books I've read to date. Had it been reviewed better than what it was, I believe the referendum last year would have been 90% leave at least.

It destroys the myth portrayed by Britain First & the EDL that the EU was based on Nazi ideas as the concept predates them by at least 15 years.

It is amazing how one man "played" 3 nations - America, Britain & France to achieve his personal dream - a man with a very "murky" past.

All that was just in the 1st 7 chapters :-(

Edit:

"Nigel Farage MEP (for underlining the significance of Verdun)"

Further confirmation that the man knows what he's talking about when it comes to Europe.
ID: 1848487 · Report as offensive
Sirius B Project Donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 24886
Credit: 3,081,182
RAC: 7
Ireland
Message 1848508 - Posted: 13 Feb 2017, 12:37:03 UTC

Also, to add to the man with a "murky" past, another who greatly influenced the EU whose plan, although it failed, led to the Maastricht Treaty.

Failed Italian Communist
ID: 1848508 · Report as offensive
Sirius B Project Donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 24886
Credit: 3,081,182
RAC: 7
Ireland
Message 1848553 - Posted: 13 Feb 2017, 20:01:15 UTC

April 1st 2019 can't come soon enough :-)

"With disarming candour, O’Neill was to record that ‘when our negotiations opened on 30 June 1970, the problem of fisheries did not exist. It came later the same day. From then on fisheries was a major problem’.47 What lay behind his words was the most bizarre episode of the negotiations, politically so embarrassing that much of it was kept secret for three decades."

There have been 14 Prime Ministers since Clement Atlee

3 will be looked back on in history as the 3 that destroyed Britain.

Edward Heath
"It might therefore have come as something of a surprise to most voters to learn that, within two weeks of the election, two of Heath’s senior ministers would be in Brussels to begin Britain’s negotiations for entry and that, within three years, without any electoral mandate, Britain would have become a full member of the European Community."

John Major
Maastricht Treaty - No electoral mandate

Gordon Brown
Lisbon Treaty - No electoral mandate

EU Treaties - changes & amendments

Unlike the C.A.P. where the UK politicians were blindsided, the Fisheries Policy, they were well aware of to such an extent that all the MP's that brought it to light were...

...given a load of flannel.
ID: 1848553 · Report as offensive
Sirius B Project Donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 24886
Credit: 3,081,182
RAC: 7
Ireland
Message 1852134 - Posted: 1 Mar 2017, 13:28:32 UTC

All those talks about trade agreements :-)

Trouble ahead?
ID: 1852134 · Report as offensive
Previous · 1 . . . 13 · 14 · 15 · 16 · 17 · 18 · 19 . . . 25 · Next

Message boards : Politics : The Way Ahead too...


 
©2024 University of California
 
SETI@home and Astropulse are funded by grants from the National Science Foundation, NASA, and donations from SETI@home volunteers. AstroPulse is funded in part by the NSF through grant AST-0307956.