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Message 1872881 - Posted: 14 Jun 2017, 11:19:44 UTC

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Message 1874619 - Posted: 23 Jun 2017, 11:04:55 UTC

Interesting chart.



Have to agree, it does raise more questions than answers.

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Message 1874624 - Posted: 23 Jun 2017, 11:26:59 UTC - in response to Message 1874619.  

Interesting chart.



Have to agree, it does raise more questions than answers.

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What about a chart that shows "others" who are not from the E.U.?

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Message 1874631 - Posted: 23 Jun 2017, 12:17:23 UTC - in response to Message 1874624.  

Haven't been able to find one with a clear breakdown like that (so far).
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Message 1874635 - Posted: 23 Jun 2017, 12:53:30 UTC - in response to Message 1874619.  
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Interesting chart.

Have to agree, it does raise more questions than answers.
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But that graph is wrong. Very wrong.
About 90,000 Swedes live in the UK.
As many as there are people from Slovakia .
Or did they already left in 2015?
And where are the Danes?
Sigh...
http://www.sviv.se/blog/2015/06/660-000-svenskar-bor-utomlands/
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Message 1874642 - Posted: 23 Jun 2017, 13:11:25 UTC - in response to Message 1874631.  

Haven't been able to find one with a clear breakdown like that (so far).
Raw ONS data. Draw your own graph :-)

Table A: Population resident in the United Kingdom, excluding some residents in communal establishments, by country of birth
United Kingdom by countries, and within England, regions	
January 2014 to December 2014	
Figures in thousands
		Estimate
Total		63,686
Afghanistan	81
Albania	15
Algeria	17
Angola	17
Anguilla	1
Antigua and Barbuda	3
Argentina	9
Armenia	2
Aruba	1
Australia	126
Austria	20
Azerbaijan	6
Bahamas, The	2
Bahrain	4
Bangladesh	212
Barbados	14
Belarus	5
Belgium	24
Belize	1
Benin	c
Bermuda	4
Bhutan	1
Bolivia	4
Bosnia and Herzegovina	7
Botswana	2
Brazil	47
British Indian Ocean Territory	1
British Virgin Islands	c
Brunei	3
Bulgaria	65
Burma	10
Burundi	2
Cambodia	1
Cameroon	13
Canada	86
Cape Verde	1
Central African Republic	2
Chile	7
China	196
Colombia	24
Congo	11
Congo (Democratic Republic)	24
Costa Rica	c
Croatia	6
Cuba	2
Cyprus (European Union)	60
Cyprus (Non-European Union)	14
Czech Republic	42
Denmark	25
Dominica	5
Dominican Republic	4
East Timor	2
Ecuador	15
Egypt	35
El Salvador	1
Equatorial Guinea	c
Eritrea	22
Estonia	13
Ethiopia	17
Falkland Islands	0~
Faroe Islands	c
Fiji	9
Finland	15
France	147
French Polynesia	1
Gabon	c
Gambia, The	11
Georgia	5
Germany	301
Ghana	92
Gibraltar	11
Greece	52
Greenland	c
Grenada	7
Guatemala	2
Guinea	6
Guinea-Bissau	3
Guyana	19
Honduras	1
Hungary	79
Iceland	1
India	793
Indonesia	8
Iran	80
Iraq	79
Israel	16
Italy	150
Ivory Coast	6
Jamaica	136
Japan	30
Jordan	7
Kazakhstan	3
Kenya	129
Kosovo	23
Kuwait	14
Kyrgyzstan	1
Laos	c
Latvia	102
Lebanon	18
Lesotho	1
Liberia	4
Libya	24
Lithuania	137
Luxembourg	2
Macedonia	1
Madagascar	c
Malawi	13
Malaysia	64
Mali	c
Malta	27
Mauritius	41
Mexico	9
Moldova	6
Monaco	c
Mongolia	2
Montenegro	1
Montserrat	6
Morocco	23
Mozambique	7
Namibia	4
Nepal	70
Netherlands	66
Netherlands Antilles	c
New Zealand	63
Nicaragua	c
Niger	1
Nigeria	178
North Korea	c
Norway	15
Oman	4
Pakistan	523
Papua New Guinea	2
Paraguay	c
Peru	5
Philippines	128
Pitcairn, Henderson, Ducie and Oeno Islands	c
Poland	790
Portugal	127
Qatar	3
Republic of Ireland	383
Romania	170
Russia	40
Rwanda	4
Sao Tome and Principe	0~
Saudi Arabia	34
Senegal	3
Serbia	7
Seychelles	2
Sierra Leone	24
Singapore	46
Slovakia	75
Slovenia	3
Solomon Islands	c
Somalia	114
South Africa	201
South Korea	14
Spain	119
Sri Lanka	139
St Helena	3
St Kitts and Nevis	3
St Lucia	10
St Vincent and the Grenadines	8
Sudan (Ex)	5
Sudan, South	1
Surinam	1
Swaziland	2
Sweden	26
Switzerland	21
Syria	14
Taiwan	38
Tajikistan	c
Tanzania	34
Thailand	40
Togo	2
Tonga	c
Trinidad and Tobago	23
Tunisia	5
Turkey	82
Turkmenistan	1
Uganda	51
Ukraine	18
United Arab Emirates	10
United Kingdom	55,375
United States of America	187
Uruguay	1
Uzbekistan	1
Vanuatu	c
Venezuela	8
Vietnam	28
West Bank (including East Jerusalem) and Gaza	3
Yemen	22
Zambia	31
Zimbabwe	120
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Message 1874645 - Posted: 23 Jun 2017, 13:32:20 UTC - in response to Message 1874642.  
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Still wrong:)
Sweden 26,000 should be 90,000.
Our tax authority knows how many Swedes who doesn't pay tax, the pension authority how many people receive a pension abroad and the central study support committee how many receive study subsidy abroad.
Can you trust Office for National Statistics ?
I don't!
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Message 1874651 - Posted: 23 Jun 2017, 14:25:53 UTC - in response to Message 1874645.  

So you're saying that 64,000 Swedes told their tax authorities they were moving to Britain, and either never arrived or told the Brits they'd moved out again? I hope they pay tax somewhere ;-)
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Message 1874653 - Posted: 23 Jun 2017, 14:45:29 UTC - in response to Message 1874651.  

So you're saying that 64,000 Swedes told their tax authorities they were moving to Britain, and either never arrived or told the Brits they'd moved out again? I hope they pay tax somewhere ;-)
Perhaps. I don't know:)
But I think the Office for National Statistics has done something wrong.
I don't think that so many as 64,000 Swedes could possibly work in Britain without paying British tax.

Hmm. I came up with a great idea.
Let the Office for National Statistics contact Skatteverket (Swedish tax authority)

Btw. I pay tax in Britain.
Every year I have to declare the value of my assets there.
But I never know much tax I have paid Britain.
I have tried to get some answer from the British tax authorites.
They don't know!
Grrrrr....
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Message 1874826 - Posted: 24 Jun 2017, 9:37:28 UTC - in response to Message 1874635.  

Yep definitely wrong. Either one can't trust the media or 50,000 Irish emigrated in 24 hours. Do they know something we don't?

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Message 1874840 - Posted: 24 Jun 2017, 11:37:22 UTC - in response to Message 1874826.  
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Yep definitely wrong. Either one can't trust the media or 50,000 Irish emigrated in 24 hours. Do they know something we don't?
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Now about 30,000 Swedes immigrated into UK:)
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Message 1876075 - Posted: 1 Jul 2017, 0:21:57 UTC

An Absolutist for Prime Minister

Hmm, wonder if Ladbrokes are taking bets that she'll still be PM at the end of this parliament?
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Message 1876079 - Posted: 1 Jul 2017, 0:41:57 UTC - in response to Message 1874840.  

Using historic and 2011 Census data, we look at the immigration patterns of residents who were born outside the UK. Over the past 60 years the population has become more diverse, with an increase in the number of residents who were born outside the UK, from just 4.3% in 1951 to 13% in 2011. The top 5 non-UK countries of birth in 2011 were India, Poland, Pakistan, Republic of Ireland and Germany.

2011 Census analysis: Immigration Patterns of Non-UK Born Populations in England and Wales in 2011

Care to hazard a guess why Germany is mentioned in the Census, and it has been in the top 5 for every census since 1970.
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Message 1876166 - Posted: 1 Jul 2017, 9:26:36 UTC

"On housing, Mr Green will promise that the Conservatives will build "high-quality" homes, including social housing that creates "sustainable and integrated communities"."
Cladding free I trust?

7 years on, the BIG Con has failed
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Message 1876411 - Posted: 2 Jul 2017, 9:16:11 UTC

Theresa May could storm out of Brexit talks over 'divorce bill'

And the rest of Europe says 'OK, that's fine by us. Bye bye.'
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Message 1876412 - Posted: 2 Jul 2017, 9:51:01 UTC - in response to Message 1876410.  
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Message 1876415 - Posted: 2 Jul 2017, 10:50:14 UTC - in response to Message 1876410.  

Poll finds that 60% of Britons want to keep their EU citizenship.
You should have thought that before falling into racialistic, xenophobic simplicity. Now, no love lost.

It's interesting that so many of the young generation wants to be part of EU.
Support for retaining the rights is particularly strong among 18- to 24-year-olds, 85% of whom want to retain their EU citizenship in addition to their British citizenship. Around 80% of people living in London also want to maintain the same rights.
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Message 1876458 - Posted: 2 Jul 2017, 16:49:39 UTC - in response to Message 1876415.  

They've known nothing but, life in/under the EU, so maybe it is not so surprising, really.
Don't take life too seriously, as you'll never come out of it alive!
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Message 1876468 - Posted: 2 Jul 2017, 17:21:24 UTC - in response to Message 1876458.  

They've known nothing but, life in/under the EU, so maybe it is not so surprising, really.
Agree, too short an 'experience baseline' in their lives.

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Message 1876475 - Posted: 2 Jul 2017, 18:21:02 UTC - in response to Message 1876458.  

They've known nothing but, life in/under the EU, so maybe it is not so surprising, really.

British people have been life in/under the EU since 1973.
There are many of us being even older people, 60+, that have opinions about the EU.
But we are now in a minority.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-32810887
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