Perhaps a Tripartite World Order. IE: Greater Russia, Chinese Empire and USA Empire (Americas) is our future for the next few centuries. Until it, as all, collapses.

Well that DOES sound familiar... Lets see....

Oceania
Eurasia
Eastasia

Three perpetually warring totalitarian super-states control the world:[32]

Oceania (ideology: Ingsoc, i.e., English Socialism); its core territories are the Western Hemisphere, the British Isles, Australasia, and Southern Africa.
Eurasia (ideology: Neo-Bolshevism); its core territories are Continental Europe and Russia, including Siberia.
Eastasia (ideology: Obliteration of the Self, i.e., "Death worship"); its core territories are China, Japan, Korea, and Indochina.

The perpetual war is fought for control of the "disputed area" lying "between the frontiers of the super-states," it forms "a rough parallelogram with its corners at Tangier, Brazzaville, Darwin and Hong Kong," thus Northern Africa, the Middle East, India and Indonesia are where the super-states capture and utilise slave-labour. Fighting also takes place between Eurasia and Eastasia in Manchuria, Mongolia and Central Asia, and all three powers battle one another over various Atlantic and Pacific islands.

Goldstein's book, The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism, explains that the superstates' ideologies are alike and that the public's ignorance of this fact is imperative so that they might continue believing in the detestability of the opposing ideologies. The only references to the exterior world for the Oceanian citizenry (the Outer Party and the Proles) are Minitrue maps and propaganda ensuring their belief in "the war."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four#Political_geography

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#Texit

Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.

Well 2017 has got Merkel worried already :-)
Trump becomes president in 17 days giving her just over 8 months before Germany's elections. If Trump keeps it frosty enough until then, she's history :-)

Merkel will be most likely doing her 4:th term after this year election in september!

It would be very funny to see and hear a discussion with Merkel and Trump.
And of course Trump vs Putin :)

Trump will have a difficult time trying to stop shaking his head in disbelief.

That's alright as long as he's saying "nein, nein, nein" as he's shaking his head :-)

Trump will have a difficult time trying to stop shaking his head in disbelief.

That's alright as long as he's saying "nein, nein, nein" as he's shaking his head :-)

I guess another TDS post.

Care to explain?

BTW: Merkel, was Merkel, before Trump was elected. Why the German people aren't shaking their heads in disbelief. Is a question for the ages.

Same applies here

Yes.

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Trump will have a difficult time trying to stop shaking his head in disbelief.

That's alright as long as he's saying "nein, nein, nein" as he's shaking his head :-)

I guess another TDS post.

Care to explain?

BTW: Merkel, was Merkel, before Trump was elected. Why the German people aren't shaking their heads in disbelief. Is a question for the ages.

Same applies here

On 'The Ground', here in the USA. TDS stands for Trump Derangement Syndrome.

What you read, or watch in the American Fake Mainstream Newsmedia. Is not what is being said by people.

The silly, irrelevant, and almost deranged media commentary. Are only assisting Trump.

Are The Left, Progressives and Anti Trump that stupid?

I find that strange coming from an intellectual such as yourself. Are you really that blind to humour plus the fact that you "guess"? Shock horror, I did not think intellectuals guessed at all, sure in the knowledge that they only deal in facts.

You popped into my series of threads on Europe with some good replies. so surely you could see how much Anti-EU I am. AS for TDS not sure anyone can actually say that of anyone - YET. He's not in power & projecting his political prowess solely based on his business life...

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On 'The Ground', here in the USA. TDS stands for Trump Derangement Syndrome.

What you read, or watch in the American Fake Mainstream Newsmedia. Is not what is being said by people.

TDS is the result of a very rich, very dangerous and very destructive man being elected in to office on the premise that he's actually going to look out for the masses. TDS is the result of people that didn't know any better (yes I'm talking about the *almost* half of my country's voters that voted for him). TDS is the result of the people-who-do-know-better's total shock and awe that the middle class would wish to further their own demise. TDS is what happens when an extremist is voted in to office. TDS is what happens when all branches of government are tipped in the extremist's favor. TDS is what happens when a huge portion of the country wholly disregards truth, fact, AND now- intelligence reports.

TDS is simply put, well-founded fears and anger being expressed.

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#resist

How to stop the Nazi's and their sympathizers in Europe, and the Right Wing in the USA from taking power.

Any thoughts?

The oligarchs possibly?

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Wow, all those labels.

2 good questions but post ruined by asking question 3!

Why keep any of them? Wouldn't it be better to create a 4th that does not encompass any of the faults of the others, or is that beyond your comprehension?

Since all Humans are with sin, and therefore all Authority becomes evil. What Non-Authoritarian System would you propose?

It would logically follow that considering the source of the system is Human any system that exercises Authority must be inherently evil.

A couple days ago on this thread or the one with title so long I cannot type it that Money and Power were equatable and both were evil. My thought is that Money and Power are merely tools and not therefor evil. They have no properties of themselves other than existence and that only in the minds that allow it to be so. Each individual has the choice of allowing Power or Money to influence their lives and morals.

Evil comes from the wielder of the tools who also has the choice of use. It can be argued that Carnegie, Vanderbilt, Rockefeller and others gained their wealth illicitly and through the labor of others but the good that their Power and Money has done in the last century is not tainted.

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What Non-Authoritarian System would you propose?

Instead of you populating threads with your 78rpm trolling B/S, how about a clear & coherent answer to that question from yourself? Are you capable of doing that?

What Non-Authoritarian System would you propose?

Instead of you populating threads with your 78rpm trolling B/S, how about a clear & coherent answer to that question from yourself? Are you capable of doing that?

Of course no, a bot does not have reasoning.

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Hint: WORKER'S OF THE WORLD, UNITE...

What are your, or those attacking me, Non-Authoritarian Solutions?

Are you really that blind?

Unions, what a lovely communistic idea - Just who heads up that United World Union of yours?

Will that union head be on the same pay as their fellow unionists?

Still waiting (with bated breath) a clear & coherent answer to the question posed to you. Again, are you capable of doing that?

Hint: WORKER'S OF THE WORLD, UNITE...

But that's socialism Clyde. :-D

Cheers.

What Non-Authoritarian System would you propose?

Instead of you populating threads with your 78rpm trolling B/S, how about a clear & coherent answer to that question from yourself? Are you capable of doing that?

Twice, personal insults, and refusing to engage in an Intelligent and Cogent argument either way.

Yes... I do understand you are using, either knowingly or unknowingly, the George Lakoff 'Rules of Debate and Conflict'.

So... Since I have said, many, many, many times, what may be the best, not perfect solution to the Excesses and Tyranny of Needed Capitalism. But not another Tyranny. Which The Left, Marxists and Progressives promote.

Hint: WORKER'S OF THE WORLD, UNITE...

What are your, or those attacking me, Non-Authoritarian Solutions?

Well, if I may propose a solution... Libertarian Minarchy.

Capitalism is the only workable system. You, and others, condemn capitalism because of the worst of its excesses.

But the worst of its excesses are ONLY possible because of the application of Government Power (what many call Right-wing Authoritarianism).

The excesses of the left (Socialism, Communism, etc.), similarly, are ONLY possible because of the application of Government Power (what many call Left-wing Authoritarianism).

The essential tie between these is Authoritarian Government Power. Get rid of Authoritarian Government Power, and the right vs. left dichotomy will cease to exist due to being irrelevant.

The only system that is workable on 'the way ahead' while avoiding the evil excesses of both the right and the left... Libertarian Minarchy.

Freedom... The Freedom to succeed (or fail) solely on your OWN merits.

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#Texit

Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.

Hint: WORKER'S OF THE WORLD, UNITE...

What are your, or those attacking me, Non-Authoritarian Solutions?

Are you really that blind?

Unions, what a lovely communistic idea - Just who heads up that United World Union of yours?

Will that union head be on the same pay as their fellow unionists?

Still waiting (with bated breath) a clear & coherent answer to the question posed to you. Again, are you capable of doing that?

Sirius B...

If possible, understand that there is a larger, more nuanced and much more intelligent would. Than the world of ideologues.

Unions are "communistic"? Strike one!

I was speaking of a "United World Union"? Strike two!!

Well, using an American Baseball Term. You have 'Two Strikes' on you. Care to post another 'Strike'?

Understand this: Three Strikes, and Your Out!!!

Strike 3 - Take your B/S elsewhere & start up your own thread. Still waiting for a coherent solution to disbanding all those you've labelled & waiting to hear your solution to what replaces them - Workers of the World Unite is not an answer - They'll still have bosses...

...Next.

...Next.

I think the term is Batter Up.

...Next.

I think the term is Batter Up.

Not HIM!

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But the worst of its excesses are ONLY possible because of the application of Government Power (what many call Right-wing Authoritarianism).
The excesses of the left (Socialism, Communism, etc.), similarly, are ONLY possible because of the application of Government Power (what many call Left-wing Authoritarianism).

And which power results in those excesses?

Grant of Sovereignty, er corporation?
The power to mint money?
Police Power?
???

If we are not to repeat the excesses of the past, we need to know what power not to allow government to have.

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If we are not to repeat the excesses of the past, we need to know what power not to allow government to have.

Don't forget Unions :-)

A comment "borrowed" from todays strike in London...

"Apparently, tomorrow's tube strike is a protest against ticket office closures. Most - if not all - of the ticket offices that I used in the past are now shut. They were useful once; but now they have gone. So what's the strike for?

Isn't it just muscle-flexing by the tube unions on an important Monday when everyone's returning from the Christmas & New Year holiday, and children are going back to school?

Most likely, the semi-automated Docklands Light Railway will be operating tomorrow as usual.

Will the whole Underground network be automated one day - maybe sooner rather than later if the unions carry on like this?"

Many that worked on the railways 40 years ago saw this coming including Union Leaders & what did those leaders do? Sweet F.A!

...All hail the United World Workers Union.

BTW, what was it that Trump pledged? He'd bring jobs back to America? Hmm, wasn't many of those jobs forced overseas to Indian & Chinese Non-Unionised sweatshops by excessive union demands?

Good luck with getting those jobs back :-)