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Message 1833717 - Posted: 2 Dec 2016, 23:21:17 UTC - in response to Message 1833715.  

ARRRRRGHHHHHHHhhhhhhhh

We've just had a violent outbreak of orange - not at all easy on the eye :-(
I agree.
Who wanted this change from text displayed in a light yellow color to a darker orange text on a grey background?
I'm still seeing 'lemonchiffron' here - 'sandybrown' must have happened while I was out at the pub.
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Message 1833719 - Posted: 2 Dec 2016, 23:34:14 UTC - in response to Message 1833717.  

ARRRRRGHHHHHHHhhhhhhhh

We've just had a violent outbreak of orange - not at all easy on the eye :-(
I agree.
Who wanted this change from text displayed in a light yellow color to a darker orange text on a grey background?
I'm still seeing 'lemonchiffron' here - 'sandybrown' must have happened while I was out at the pub.

Still "sandybrown" here. Perhaps you've got a cached copy of the custom_dark.css file? Or maybe just beer goggles? ;^)
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Message 1833721 - Posted: 2 Dec 2016, 23:43:22 UTC - in response to Message 1833719.  
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ARRRRRGHHHHHHHhhhhhhhh

We've just had a violent outbreak of orange - not at all easy on the eye :-(
I agree.
Who wanted this change from text displayed in a light yellow color to a darker orange text on a grey background?
I'm still seeing 'lemonchiffron' here - 'sandybrown' must have happened while I was out at the pub.
Still "sandybrown" here. Perhaps you've got a cached copy of the custom_dark.css file? Or maybe just beer goggles? ;^)
Switched to a different machine, and sandybrown it is. Actually, this is a very washed-out monitor, and I'm looking at it from a bad angle - so the extra color intensity helps *in these specific circumstances*. But on a high-quality monitor, positioned correctly, I suspect lemonchiffon would be better.

Edit - back downstairs on the daily driver, and a Ctrl-F5 to reload the cache. Sandybrown it is (by name: closer to salmon pink on the screen)
Edit2 - (from Number Crunching) Code blocks are wrapping. That's not good for syntax.
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Message 1833725 - Posted: 2 Dec 2016, 23:55:41 UTC

Finally found the secret.

HDMI from my GTX660 to my 48' Sony LCD TV setting display to VIVID and WIDE ZOOM.

I can READ it! It's BEAUTIFUL!

...............

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Message 1833734 - Posted: 3 Dec 2016, 0:53:38 UTC - in response to Message 1833725.  

Finally found the secret.

HDMI from my GTX660 to my 48' Sony LCD TV setting display to VIVID and WIDE ZOOM.

I can READ it! It's BEAUTIFUL!

...............

The kitties LIKE the burnt orange/sandy brown......
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Message 1833782 - Posted: 3 Dec 2016, 4:05:19 UTC

HDMI from my GTX660 to my 48' Sony LCD TV

48 foot HDTV?? No wonder you like it.

My gripe is that when following a link and returning it doesn't return to the place you clicked on but to
the first place you started from.
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Message 1833795 - Posted: 3 Dec 2016, 5:36:42 UTC - in response to Message 1833721.  

Edit2 - (from Number Crunching) Code blocks are wrapping. That's not good for syntax.

Yep, they sure are. On the other hand, "Pre" blocks in the forums don't wrap and may stretch the page, while "Pre" blocks for Stderr output on Task detail pages have horizontal scroll bars (where it probably doesn't much matter whether the pages stretch or not). I think it's because those are standalone <pre> elements, while on the forum pages they're subordinate to <table> and <div> elements which must be overriding the "overflow" attribute.

Anyway, they all now have white text on dark gray backgrounds. The dance of the deck chairs continues.
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Message 1833849 - Posted: 3 Dec 2016, 13:44:14 UTC
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The new thread icons are terrible.
Nearly indecipherable.

On the other hand, the new stats page headers look very nice.

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Message 1833867 - Posted: 3 Dec 2016, 15:58:43 UTC - in response to Message 1833849.  
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I know someone is trying on the thread icons. I also remember the last redesign of the website. Someone got smart and hired a professional graphic designer and their name was home page. I think there was a reason for that. We have https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_forum.php?id=232, perhaps there is someone with prior experience who might be willing who can fit into the budget?

As to the icons, in places they are better, and in places they are worse. Watch out for how they scale and how much border is around them.
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Message 1834052 - Posted: 4 Dec 2016, 16:30:03 UTC
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Anybody else tired of Firfox 'updates' occurring every 3 days? Worse than Micro$oft...........

Maybe time to find another browser...........

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Message 1834085 - Posted: 4 Dec 2016, 18:32:41 UTC - in response to Message 1834052.  

Anybody else tired of Firfox 'updates' occurring every 3 days? Worse than Micro$oft...........

Maybe time to find another browser...........

I have used Seamonkey since the original Netscape went away.

It has been stable enough that there have been no updates since earlier this year.
I chose it early on, because it kept the email embedded.

Try it. You'll like it.

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Message 1834092 - Posted: 4 Dec 2016, 19:10:10 UTC

My problem with the white on gray display is that 99% of the other websites I visit are black text on white. When going from SETI to those sites my eyes take a beating trying to adjust. There is a REASON the majority of sites use black on white. Not the simple vanity of being 'different', but the need to be READABLE.

Another cry falling on deaf ears..............

After reading someone 's suggestion, I installed Color That Site! then inverted the colors.  I'm not a believer of installing a plethora of unnecessary add-ons, I prefer a more streamlined installation.  But, why would it be necessary to surf the web fine, and be forced to Fudtz with your browser (add-ons or preferences) because of one site?  Additionally, there remains an issue with some pages not wrapping text and, oh yeah, I discovered this 'undocumented feature', which never happened previously.

If there was an unsatiable urge to fix something that was not broken, then start small and only modify the layout. Barring self-control to do that and because the end of s@h is nigh, why not come full circle by using the style of the 'classic' site?  If not that, then why not utilize BOINC's style?  It's clean, it's fresh, not garish.


Sad that at least 2 SETi devs spend their time on WEB-design issues instead of very topic of this project.


Even sadder that the last remaining BOINC developer isn't preparing for release of fixes for already-fixed bugs (v7.6.22 will have been 'recommended' for a whole year, later this month: and v7.6.33 has been in 'testing' for almost six months).


Sadder still is that volunteer development resources (ie Raistmer, Richard H, et al) are being squandered on debugging the site's CSS instead of improving the science apps.

NOTE - I'm not speaking for those gents, it's only my interpretation from reading these threads.
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Message 1834206 - Posted: 5 Dec 2016, 3:43:34 UTC - in response to Message 1834092.  

I can see that it has gone from bad to worse...

It is a pity that the resources weren't put on something that is more important, such a waste.
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Message 1834334 - Posted: 5 Dec 2016, 18:18:33 UTC

Login, Password and Sort panels are suddenly 'overly large'...............just a comment.

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Message 1834351 - Posted: 5 Dec 2016, 20:08:16 UTC - in response to Message 1834052.  

Anybody else tired of Firfox 'updates' occurring every 3 days? Worse than Micro$oft...........

Maybe time to find another browser...........

If you dislike updates then go for a browser which isn't very popular. Many updates for Chrome/FF are just security fixes. Exploits are found on a regular basis and need to be fixed ASAP.
Now, if you use some obscure browser you're less likely to see many updates because nobody bothers to find exploits for a browser almost nobody uses, and because there are much less devs for those browsers then for the "big ones".

Or just disable automatic updates for FF and update manually whenever you like.
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Message 1834398 - Posted: 6 Dec 2016, 0:34:02 UTC - in response to Message 1834334.  

Login, Password and Sort panels are suddenly 'overly large'...............just a comment.


The Sort feature box is awfully big, now.
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Message 1834401 - Posted: 6 Dec 2016, 1:04:23 UTC
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Just to note that there is a lot of sensitivity to the readability of the website style depending on the device being used for display...

I had a quite a giggle for an earlier comment about the site looking good on a HD extra-wideview 40-foot display set to extra-vivid... (ok, slight exaggeration ;-) ) ...

Well...

Moving from a graphics pad to now my normal computer monitor and, despite no 40-foot extra-vivid monster, the normal display almost knocks me off my chair in comparison...

Two notes from that:

  • The alternating light-gray - dark-gray bands for the forums listing are a little harsh/stark;
  • Are the fonts too fine/slender to render well on lower resolution displays?



On this (big) monitor, the web site looks good and positively different/distinctive.

Good luck for the tweaks!

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Message 1834431 - Posted: 6 Dec 2016, 6:06:43 UTC - in response to Message 1834398.  
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Login, Password and Sort panels are suddenly 'overly large'...............just a comment.


The Sort feature box is awfully big, now.

Annoyingly so.

EDIT- And it would be nice if the Quote bars in posts were light enough to see. As it is they blend in very well with the back ground.
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Message 1834470 - Posted: 6 Dec 2016, 22:48:30 UTC - in response to Message 1834431.  

EDIT- And it would be nice if the Quote bars in posts were light enough to see. As it is they blend in very well with the back ground.

+1

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Message 1834477 - Posted: 6 Dec 2016, 23:04:27 UTC

Warning: Missing argument 1 for navbar_end(), called in /disks/carolyn/b/home/boincadm/projects/sah/html/seti_boinc_html/project.inc on line 111 and defined in /disks/carolyn/b/home/boincadm/projects/sah/html/inc/bootstrap.inc on line 59
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