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Message 1832551 - Posted: 26 Nov 2016, 3:17:36 UTC
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When I first logged on and it was all dark, my reaction was "who died?"

As others have said, "Slate" is a step backwards in readability.
Standard triumph of form over function.
Where is the option to revert to Classic please?

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Message 1832556 - Posted: 26 Nov 2016, 3:52:39 UTC

"Slate" seems to be little different from my school days in the '50s and '60s, when white chalk on a black slate slab was the standard. A more suitable name for it today might be "Archaic".
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Message 1832558 - Posted: 26 Nov 2016, 4:03:25 UTC

Not a fan of this color scheme............while it might be fine on a tiny screen - it is
depressingly dark on my 24" LCD......................the layout is ok ....the color(s)
not so much
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Message 1832581 - Posted: 26 Nov 2016, 5:35:59 UTC

Another vote for too dark and hard to read.

I prefer the "old" site.
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Message 1832591 - Posted: 26 Nov 2016, 6:32:08 UTC - in response to Message 1832428.  
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We changed the SETI@home web site to use Twitter Bootstrap, a CSS toolkit. This makes the site usable on small displays, and lets us use color schemes developed by other people (this one is called Slate).


More usuable on small displays? My windows phone displayed just fine and I used it to adjust jobs on my machines with ease.

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Message 1832599 - Posted: 26 Nov 2016, 7:13:20 UTC
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After inverting all the colours on this site it's actually very readable now and no longer giving me headaches. :-)

But I shouldn't of had to do that.

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Message 1832610 - Posted: 26 Nov 2016, 7:48:15 UTC
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Hi,
The dark appearance is bad for my eyes. It makes the pupils of my eyes open up and the vision gets blurred.
With the new colour scheme I need glasses to read the forums and stats.

1) I'd like to have an option somewhere to select permanently an other (brighter) scheme..
2) The valid tasks (and pending/invalid/err) page has Application column. It displays "SETI@home v8
Anonymous platform (NVIDIA GPU)" divided in two lines no matter how big my screen is or how small I set the font. I'd like to have it displayed as one line when there is horizontal space available.
To overcome Heisenbergs:
"You can't always get what you want / but if you try sometimes you just might find / you get what you need." -- Rolling Stones
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Message 1832611 - Posted: 26 Nov 2016, 7:49:44 UTC

Well looks like the complaints from the peanut gallery fell on attentive ears or something. SSP now reconfigured to be readable finally. I think I can get used to the colors.
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Message 1832628 - Posted: 26 Nov 2016, 9:17:45 UTC - in response to Message 1832428.  

Like the most, i dislike this dark color.
I had no any problem to display on my Windows smartphone (2.5in).
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Message 1832634 - Posted: 26 Nov 2016, 9:55:14 UTC

Golden rule of development is broken.
If you add new feature allow opt out from it !
If you added new color scheme - make choice available to revert to old one.

In particular, white on gray is BAD choice.
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Message 1832638 - Posted: 26 Nov 2016, 10:55:28 UTC

"This new Boinc dress look good on me..

...yes dear, your eyesight is perfect"

Vainty has always been a b*tch!
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Message 1832649 - Posted: 26 Nov 2016, 12:14:20 UTC

As an old typographer I like black fonts on white pages, Times New Roman.
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Message 1832652 - Posted: 26 Nov 2016, 12:21:19 UTC - in response to Message 1832526.  

Another potential annoyance that I'm seeing is that all page titles are now prefixed with "SETI@home:". That means that the more tabs you have open at one time, the more difficult it is to figure out which tab is which, unless you hover your mouse for a second or two to get a popup hint.
I think that's always been the case - the page source looks the same on non-Bootstrap project web pages.

But now you mention it, the pop-up on my team message board page reads:

SETI@home: Team message board for <a href=team_display.php?teamid=145273>Raccoon Lovers</a>

- I don't remember the anchor url being visible before.
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Message 1832654 - Posted: 26 Nov 2016, 12:29:13 UTC - in response to Message 1832634.  

Golden rule of development is broken.
If you add new feature allow opt out from it !
If you added new color scheme - make choice available to revert to old one.

In particular, white on gray is BAD choice.

+1

Who the hell is General Failure and why is he reading my harddisk?¿
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Message 1832662 - Posted: 26 Nov 2016, 13:58:22 UTC

When did this sharp crisp flat grey Microsoft 10 form theme-y presentation become trendy.

Yes Server status is difficult to read (particluarly disabled sevices)
Science Status and the unchanged Data Distrabution at least remains on the old clear white background)

Would like to see a dish back but the home page banner is an improvement.
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Message 1832664 - Posted: 26 Nov 2016, 13:59:57 UTC

Thank you for the quick fix on topic titles, though!
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Message 1832679 - Posted: 26 Nov 2016, 16:18:57 UTC

@David

The menu item for server status page points to https link. The page itself links to custom.css and sah_logo_wb.png over http. These days browser don't necessarily retrieve content over insecure connections when the page is served over secure connection. You should leave the protocol out so that browsers can choose the same protocol that was used for the page.

Also, the links to BOINC main page and addons are over http. Maybe they should be protocol-less or https to keep using the same level of security.
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Message 1832680 - Posted: 26 Nov 2016, 16:19:37 UTC - in response to Message 1832652.  

Another potential annoyance that I'm seeing is that all page titles are now prefixed with "SETI@home:". That means that the more tabs you have open at one time, the more difficult it is to figure out which tab is which, unless you hover your mouse for a second or two to get a popup hint.
I think that's always been the case - the page source looks the same on non-Bootstrap project web pages.

But now you mention it, the pop-up on my team message board page reads:

SETI@home: Team message board for <a href=team_display.php?teamid=145273>Raccoon Lovers</a>

- I don't remember the anchor url being visible before.

Just as an example, the source for a WU detail page from yesterday morning starts out:
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd"><html><head>
<title>Workunit 2310440997</title>
<link rel=stylesheet type="text/css" href="http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/main.css" media="all">
        <link rel=stylesheet type="text/css" href="http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/white.css">
    
        <link rel=alternate type="application/rss+xml" title="SETI@home RSS 2.0" href="http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/rss_main.php">
        </head>

By last evening, the same page started with:
<!DOCTYPE html>
        <html lang="en">
        <head>
        <meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1">
    <title>SETI@home: Workunit 2310440997</title>

        <meta charset="utf-8">
        <link rel="stylesheet" href="https://setiathome.berkeley.edu//bootstrap.min.css" media="all">
    
        <link rel=alternate type="application/rss+xml" title="SETI@home RSS 2.0" href="http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/rss_main.php">
        </head>
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Message 1832686 - Posted: 26 Nov 2016, 16:51:39 UTC

I really like the new site. The change-up in color is a refreshing break from the boring black text on white background (I was so happy when ArsTechnca finally allowed me to change it to dark background with white text). I can see how switching over to CSS will help with the smaller screens on phones. Browsing this site on my Windows phone was so frustrating that I usually avoided it when I could. Now the site automatically adjusts to my phone's screen size. I don't have to scroll back and forth or zoom just to read the site's pages. This is a huge improvement over the old site. Thanks guys!
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Message 1832687 - Posted: 26 Nov 2016, 16:53:35 UTC
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Posting here because I am hoping Dr. Anderson is keeping up with the comments, and that he will take the constructive ones into consideration.

A few things I do not like....(not necessarily in order of annoyance.)

1. The tabs problem. I often have a number of tabs open for various Seti pages, and they used to display a snippet of the page's identity. Now they all just display SETI....so it's harder to select the tab I want.
2. My sig has two img blocks in it. My Seti kitty banner, and my Boincstats stats block. They used to display side by side, which I did on purpose as it took up less vertical space in the forums. Now they are one above the other.
3. Having the text in bold when quoting another post is absolutely ridiculous.
4. On the home page, the main navigation headings.....Project, Science, Computing, Community, Site. Most web pages give you the drop downs when you mouse over the heading, and can then slide down to the item you want. You should not have to click on the heading to get the drop down items.
5. Some posts for whatever reason do not wrap text properly. The line of text goes off of the right of the screen, requiring scrolling right to read it all.

As one who spends a LOT of time on the Seti forums, I do hope that these comments are taken as being constructive and hope that they may be remedied.
"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

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