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Message 1831800 - Posted: 21 Nov 2016, 22:15:18 UTC

First off, I am a little inept at anything much past putting things together and make them run "fairly well", 2nd, almost everything I have is brought back from near death, or procured from those that are dead except the wife's, she bought it and built it 8 years ago. 3rd, I can't afford $xxx.xx cards and processors. With that heres the problem:
I'm resurecting an "older" Intel PC that had an ATI X1300 video card in it. It has a Intel dual core processor. I thought I might throw an AMD FirePro 256 mb card in it and get a little more out of it but it failed. Actually "epic fail" was more like it. Older small cards are exactly that, old and small and don't forget, slow and hard to find the exact right drivers for.
Sans pulling out what little hair I have left I put a nVidia 9500 GT 1gig DDR2 in it and left it alone after getting the stuff to make it run. Long story short I checked the log file to see why things looked to be running way to long. Does anyone see any thing wrong down around the processor lines?

11/20/2016 9:11:47 PM | | cc_config.xml not found - using defaults
11/20/2016 9:11:50 PM | | Starting BOINC client version 7.6.22 for windows_x86_64
11/20/2016 9:11:50 PM | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
11/20/2016 9:11:50 PM | | Libraries: libcurl/7.45.0 OpenSSL/1.0.2d zlib/1.2.8
11/20/2016 9:11:50 PM | | Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
11/20/2016 9:11:50 PM | | Running under account Rusty&Chris
11/20/2016 9:12:23 PM | | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce 9500 GT (driver version 341.95, CUDA version 6.5, compute capability 1.1, 1024MB, 964MB available, 149 GFLOPS peak)
11/20/2016 9:12:23 PM | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce 9500 GT (driver version 341.95, device version OpenCL 1.0 CUDA, 1024MB, 964MB available, 149 GFLOPS peak)
11/20/2016 9:12:23 PM | | OpenCL CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6400 @ 2.13GHz (OpenCL driver vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc., driver version 1214.3 (sse2), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1214.3))
11/20/2016 9:12:23 PM | | OpenCL CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6400 @ 2.13GHz (OpenCL driver vendor: Intel(R) Corporation, driver version 3.0.1.13176, device version OpenCL 1.2 (Build 78712))
11/20/2016 9:12:23 PM | | OpenCL CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6400 @ 2.13GHz (OpenCL driver vendor: Intel(R) Corporation, driver version 4.6.0.92, device version OpenCL 2.0 (Build 99))
11/20/2016 9:12:23 PM | | Host name: CH-46_CHINOOK
11/20/2016 9:12:23 PM | | Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6400 @ 2.13GHz [Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 2]
11/20/2016 9:12:23 PM | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 cx16 syscall nx lm vmx tm2 pbe
11/20/2016 9:12:23 PM | | OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Ultimate x64 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00)
11/20/2016 9:12:23 PM | | Memory: 3.93 GB physical, 11.92 GB virtual
11/20/2016 9:12:23 PM | | Disk: 149.04 GB total, 86.39 GB free
11/20/2016 9:12:23 PM | | Local time is UTC -8 hours
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It really is a Core Two 6400 @2.13. The question is "what would you do"? Start over with a clean install of SETI and the 341.95 driver? I keep getting

11/21/2016 8:40:25 AM | SETI@home | Message from server: NVIDIA GPU: Upgrade to the latest driver to process tasks using your computer's GPU

-in red-but I can't get anything farther up the line to go with it, it will not install and reverts to 341.95. If anything I feel like pushing that "Reset Project" and calling it a day, but I still might have a conflict with the processors. I had re-installed BOINC after the change in video cards. I never installed anything processor specific with AMD on it that I know of.
Thanks in advance, and if all else fails, this might provide a good laugh somewhere....... :)
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Message 1831822 - Posted: 22 Nov 2016, 0:21:56 UTC - in response to Message 1831800.  

Until someone more knowledgeable responds, take a look here.
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Message 1831828 - Posted: 22 Nov 2016, 0:27:55 UTC

I have sent email to the admins asking if they're enforcing a minimum driver these days and if so what mystical number that might be then.
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Message 1831842 - Posted: 22 Nov 2016, 1:48:33 UTC - in response to Message 1831822.  

Thanx AMDave, that makes sense since it was plastered with everything and the same, except CUDA23. Thank you.
(BUT, it looks really menacing in "RED").
I had read till my eyes were bleeding different posts, even did a search but I think I did it before that post.
My 9800 GT 1 gig runs fine-not like it did before the 8's came along, but still good enough for me-I don't have my computers hidden if anybody wants to look-I did this to try to find the right driver for a GT 740.
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Message 1831865 - Posted: 22 Nov 2016, 7:20:31 UTC - in response to Message 1831800.  

I ran a benchmark that was suggested by afriend and got this:

11/21/2016 9:18:53 PM | | Running CPU benchmarks
11/21/2016 9:18:54 PM | | Suspending computation - CPU benchmarks in progress
11/21/2016 9:19:24 PM | | FP benchmark ran only 0.078001 sec; ignoring
11/21/2016 9:19:26 PM | | Resuming computation
11/21/2016 10:45:52 PM | | Running CPU benchmarks
11/21/2016 10:45:53 PM | | Suspending computation - CPU benchmarks in progress
11/21/2016 10:46:23 PM | | FP benchmark ran only 0.078001 sec; ignoring
11/21/2016 10:46:24 PM | | Resuming computation

I've never seen one NOT bench, or one that a timing that it would ignore.
The question now is did an earlier install of ATI GPU drivers and managers install something in for an AMD-best guess-&/OR-assumption due to "family, model, stepping" numbers? "6, 15, 2" seem to come to mind as far back as some early Celeron/Athlon processors and the FirePro 3D card did have a lot of stuff that needed installed. I used the unistaller, and cleaned up after myself and rebooted after each uninstall, and subsequent re-install.
Have never seen an ignored CPU Benchmark before.
The plot thickens, I have an identical match to this one ready to go online Wensday-without the days of trying the ATI small change*! Is that "minium driver*" thing something that is going to put alot of PC's out of SETI business or is he joking? I'v started putting my Pentium II and olders (The AST just won't do math, just wants to sit in the sun-go figure) to work on other projects, the one's with 2-15 avg. credit days, they could put me in a whole new realm. A 2011 is new around here ;)Never heard of it......Minium driver must be a whole new thread.
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Message 1831872 - Posted: 22 Nov 2016, 8:06:43 UTC
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Answer from Eric Korpela:
Which driver revisions are acceptable depends upon the plan class. There used to be a problem in BOINC wherein if any plan class required too high a driver revision, BOINC would emit that message. I thought it had been fixed.

Here are the min and max driver versions for current plan classes, where applicable. Note there isn't necessarily an active client in distribution for each of these.

plan class           min rev  max rev
cuda22                185.85   341.61
cuda23                190.38   341.61
cuda32                263.06     -
cuda42                301.24     -
cuda42_mac            329.07     -
cuda50                304.48     -
cuda60                331.00     -
cuda75_mac            460.61     -
opencl_nvidia_sah     347.00     -
opencl_nvidia_SoG     347.00     -
opencl_nvidia_mac       -        -
opencl_nvidia_SoG_mac   -        -
opencl_nvidia_cc1_sah   -        -
opencl_nvidia_100       -        -
opencl_nvidia_cc1       -      341.61
cuda_opencl_100       197.13     -
cuda_opencl_cc1       197.13   341.61

If it is something, I'd have to say your driver version is too high...
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Message 1832063 - Posted: 23 Nov 2016, 19:38:19 UTC
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Thank you, that really simplified things for me. Much better than looking at computers trying to find my combination-or close-and going from there. "Best guess" did not get us to the moon,(thats a whole other thread I'm guessing)oh, and back too, at least once. The ATI/AMD seems easy compared the Nvidia/CUDA. I can see where some of the drivers-by the number- could actually almost run the other, hap-hazardly and possibly poorly, but still adapt, improvise and overheat. There seems to be a lot of the same archatecture in the processors. ? Like I said, a little inept......
I had a thermal shut down from the processor due to the AMD stuff-I think-that was at the top of the list of questions. To put it like a friend said "That ain't no Athlon chuckles". I'm going to do a clean install of the 341.61 or as close under as I can get, I don't think Quadro stuff worked, and see if that straightens that part out and see about maybe running the AMD clean up one more time, if not just manually go and remove things. I believe it was the FirePro card and the software I used that planted the

"11/20/2016 9:12:23 PM | | OpenCL CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6400 @ 2.13GHz (OpenCL driver vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc., driver version 1214.3 (sse2), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1214.3))"

stuff in it and they do conflict with this. If there's anyone who ever said I've seen it all, here's the one you might not have.
All in all it is a learning experiance, not "was", "is".


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Message 1832077 - Posted: 23 Nov 2016, 22:22:19 UTC - in response to Message 1832063.  

Go to http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Find.aspx?lang=en-us, Geforce, Geforce 9 series, 9800 GT, Windows 7 x64, English and all.

I'd go for 341.44 then. But anything below that should be all right as well.
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Message 1832103 - Posted: 24 Nov 2016, 1:24:35 UTC - in response to Message 1832077.  
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Go to http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Find.aspx?lang=en-us, Geforce, Geforce 9 series, 9800 GT, Windows 7 x64, English and all.

I'd go for 341.44 then. But anything below that should be all right as well.



Yes, checked the family (9) and I figured after reading all the rest of the newer ones, and staying with the card family-mainly security updates for big $$ different card. That part is working fine! They had added support for 3D and DirectX 10 and 11 which was hard to make work in the 337.xx drivers. It is showing DX 10, CUDA, PhysX and Direct Compute 4.0. The warning popped up for GPU-Z that said the AMD driver part was causing a no show on Open CL, and the processor is a 1.2 and 2.0 capable.
The AMD tool did not take out the AMD part, DDU failed too, so I'm going to tinker on it and re-run it through the Intel site and get the board updates again. I am glad I decided to write everything down I did. Maybe simple for some folks to do from memory but life gets hectic and I started this one how long ago? The one just like it will be easy to set up after this, or a worse nightmare. Even with the right driver it still seems to want to run the Q965/Q963 Express Chipset, with PhysX showing,DX9.0 and 8 Unified shaders, driver version 8.15.10.1749Beta/Win7 64-this might be worth the dummy plug trick!!!! Or just another monitor, got enough of them.
I do appreciate the help, I gave up on this once because it was hard to figure out how to make it work when in reality it was not, I just made it harder than it was. I'll keep a post back on what happened, if it smoked & sparked or really blew and the color of the flame afterwards.... ;) Gotta love a good melt down.
*Afterthought-the AMD Cl in the processor might be somehow caused by the driver the Q965/Q963 is using in part anyway, from the FirePro, I have to look back through the papers but that set of numbers seems familiar.
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