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Message 1830703 - Posted: 15 Nov 2016, 11:07:32 UTC
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There is some discussions of recent spammers attacks on Enigma project on mail-lists.
Seems SETI becomes their target too.
First sign already showed on this forum.

With many of such results:

<core_client_version>7.6.9</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
WU download error: couldn't get input files:
<file_xfer_error>
<file_name>09ja09ae.13806.502643.14.41.226.vlar</file_name>
<error_code>-197 (result aborted via GUI)</error_code>
<error_message>user requested transfer abort</error_message>
</file_xfer_error>

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IMHO we need
1) to restrict length of username
2) to rise penalty for abusing quota system
3) to boost moderation.

Usernames used for spamming here too.
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Message 1830705 - Posted: 15 Nov 2016, 11:33:25 UTC

Well said Raistmer - such abuse just gives everyone else a headache.
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Message 1830706 - Posted: 15 Nov 2016, 11:33:26 UTC - in response to Message 1830703.  

Yes, the scientific output of that computer does tell its own story, doesn't it?

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Message 1830728 - Posted: 15 Nov 2016, 14:08:18 UTC

Wouldn't it be easier to limit the length of username that is visible in the forum pages? I mean to show only maybe 25 characters or something.
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Message 1830731 - Posted: 15 Nov 2016, 14:18:13 UTC - in response to Message 1830703.  

To be clear, you're saying spammers are creating accounts, crunching data to gain RAC, then aborting all results all so they can post spam in RAC-protected areas of the forums?
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Message 1830732 - Posted: 15 Nov 2016, 14:20:36 UTC - in response to Message 1830731.  

To be clear, you're saying spammers are creating accounts, crunching data to gain RAC, then aborting all results all so they can post spam in RAC-protected areas of the forums?


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Message 1830755 - Posted: 16 Nov 2016, 2:20:30 UTC

I certainly agree with No.1 and here's some No.2's that could do with some sort of penalty for aborting BLC work and hoarding of other work.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7123613
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7947608
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7921685
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6624102
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8030949
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7114519
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7999209
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7284511
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8031021
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7921601
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7470942
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8103298
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8103292
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8061493
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5745362
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8123671
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7025536
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6420067
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7248689
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7436798
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5501972
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7937692
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7347988

You can also tell by some that when AP's become available the dumping gets worse.

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Message 1830762 - Posted: 16 Nov 2016, 2:51:11 UTC - in response to Message 1830703.  

IMHO

Raistmer IMO there is no reason for your opinion to be humble.
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Message 1830804 - Posted: 16 Nov 2016, 8:20:23 UTC - in response to Message 1830732.  

To be clear, you're saying spammers are creating accounts, crunching data to gain RAC, then aborting all results all so they can post spam in RAC-protected areas of the forums?


Correct

Well so far no spam has appeared.

Also spammers in the Q/A forums get permanent bans.

I thought it was more to do with getting their user names noticed.
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Message 1830814 - Posted: 16 Nov 2016, 10:37:35 UTC - in response to Message 1830804.  

To be clear, you're saying spammers are creating accounts, crunching data to gain RAC, then aborting all results all so they can post spam in RAC-protected areas of the forums?


Correct

Well so far no spam has appeared.

Also spammers in the Q/A forums get permanent bans.

I thought it was more to do with getting their user names noticed.

Or just to irritate others. ;-)

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Message 1830816 - Posted: 16 Nov 2016, 11:05:59 UTC - in response to Message 1830755.  

I certainly agree with No.1 and here's some No.2's that could do with some sort of penalty for aborting BLC work and hoarding of other work.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7123613
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7947608
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7921685
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6624102
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8030949
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7114519
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7999209
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7284511
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8031021
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7921601
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7470942
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8103298
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8103292
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8061493
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5745362
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8123671
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7025536
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6420067
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7248689
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7436798
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5501972
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7937692
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7347988

You can also tell by some that when AP's become available the dumping gets worse.

Cheers.


I can see it looks bad but 8123671 is my machine. I had a failed cpu which needed RMA back to Intel but not until I'd tried to RMA the motherboard which turned out to be fine. So I was offline for several weeks and ended up doing a fresh install of windows once I was issued with a replacement. The cached tasks were not recovered. Sorry about that wingmen.
I have been contributing to this project for 17 years and this machine currently ranks at number 78 in the top hosts for total credit. Its RAC is picking up again now that it is back online and the abandoned tasks are being dealt with by resending in the way the project is designed to do - so please be discriminating when looking to penalise genuine bad behaviours.
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Message 1830820 - Posted: 16 Nov 2016, 11:31:33 UTC

so please be discriminating when looking to penalise genuine bad behaviours


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Message 1830821 - Posted: 16 Nov 2016, 11:45:22 UTC - in response to Message 1830728.  

Wouldn't it be easier to limit the length of username that is visible in the forum pages? I mean to show only maybe 25 characters or something.

It was also brought up in the server panic thread. While having a 255 character limit is very accommodating. It is also rather excessive. Anything in the 25-35 character limit seems like it would be more than sufficient.
I'm sure that it doesn't help with the error that happen when adding users to Message filtering. There is an issue that after a specific length of users names it throws a screen long list of errors. Which I believe someone explained to be what the total length of users names exceeded the storage space allocated. Since the user IDs are getting added the filtering does continue to work. I am up to 30 users I'm filtering at the moment. So With new users having longer IDs I might hit the limit on the storage space allocated for user IDs soon.
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Message 1830834 - Posted: 16 Nov 2016, 15:00:34 UTC

Omg! I tested and it worked! Lol! :D

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Message 1830835 - Posted: 16 Nov 2016, 15:01:44 UTC - in response to Message 1830834.  
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Delete: Just tested.. From. -= Vyper =- (Is this bullshit for real with extreme amounts of letters in the name, why is it even possible in the first place? Who could have figured that you could write a novel here and it is allowed to have so many characters in the name. Lol

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Message 1830870 - Posted: 16 Nov 2016, 18:45:41 UTC

The discussion over on enigma.

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Message 1830918 - Posted: 16 Nov 2016, 21:18:51 UTC

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I can see it looks bad but 8123671 is my machine. I had a failed cpu which needed RMA back to Intel but not until I'd tried to RMA the motherboard which turned out to be fine. So I was offline for several weeks and ended up doing a fresh install of windows once I was issued with a replacement. The cached tasks were not recovered. Sorry about that wingmen.
I have been contributing to this project for 17 years and this machine currently ranks at number 78 in the top hosts for total credit. Its RAC is picking up again now that it is back online and the abandoned tasks are being dealt with by resending in the way the project is designed to do - so please be discriminating when looking to penalise genuine bad behaviours.

I'm sorry if you got caught up in that, but I did check threads here that others have put up about their PC failing/failure problems (eg; Cruncher Down or Apologies to Wingmen & similar) and your name wasn't amongst them to cross off, now it's a bit late to remove yours from that list.

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Message 1830937 - Posted: 16 Nov 2016, 22:46:35 UTC - in response to Message 1830918.  

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I can see it looks bad but 8123671 is my machine. I had a failed cpu which needed RMA back to Intel but not until I'd tried to RMA the motherboard which turned out to be fine. So I was offline for several weeks and ended up doing a fresh install of windows once I was issued with a replacement. The cached tasks were not recovered. Sorry about that wingmen.
I have been contributing to this project for 17 years and this machine currently ranks at number 78 in the top hosts for total credit. Its RAC is picking up again now that it is back online and the abandoned tasks are being dealt with by resending in the way the project is designed to do - so please be discriminating when looking to penalise genuine bad behaviours.

I'm sorry if you got caught up in that, but I did check threads here that others have put up about their PC failing/failure problems (eg; Cruncher Down or Apologies to Wingmen & similar) and your name wasn't amongst them to cross off, now it's a bit late to remove yours from that list.

Cheers.


It's not about the indignation for being named and shamed, rather seeking to highlight that your proposing a penalty for a lost 1 day cache was inappropriate for a machine in the top 100. Seeking to deflect my point by inferring that I should have posted an apology for hardware failure suggests you were trying to avoid blame for your post. I wasn't blaming, merely pointing out that indiscriminate penalties would have impacted this machine.
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Message 1830945 - Posted: 16 Nov 2016, 23:23:57 UTC - in response to Message 1830918.  

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I can see it looks bad but 8123671 is my machine. I had a failed cpu which needed RMA back to Intel but not until I'd tried to RMA the motherboard which turned out to be fine. So I was offline for several weeks and ended up doing a fresh install of windows once I was issued with a replacement. The cached tasks were not recovered. Sorry about that wingmen.
I have been contributing to this project for 17 years and this machine currently ranks at number 78 in the top hosts for total credit. Its RAC is picking up again now that it is back online and the abandoned tasks are being dealt with by resending in the way the project is designed to do - so please be discriminating when looking to penalise genuine bad behaviours.

I'm sorry if you got caught up in that, but I did check threads here that others have put up about their PC failing/failure problems (eg; Cruncher Down or Apologies to Wingmen & similar) and your name wasn't amongst them to cross off, now it's a bit late to remove yours from that list.

Cheers.

Personally I never feel the need to announce when I have a machine die or end up with a load of ghost tasks. The BOINC system is designed to handle that situation. It is annoying that the tasks will take 6 weeks to time out, but it get handled.
When there are users that specifically download work without processing it only to have it timeout and request more I think is an issue.

There are issue with the server actually applying Max tasks per day value to hosts. Recently I had a host, CPU only, with 100 ghosts. So I aborted all of the tasks it hand on hand and then did a project reset to clear the ghosts. The Max tasks per day for the host was then 1, but on the next work request it received 100 tasks.
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Message 1831573 - Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 14:28:56 UTC

Can we at least allow spammer-created distortion die on its own and move out from first page if no active action against such attempted?
Just some refrain of posting required for it...
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