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Raistmer Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 |
There is some discussions of recent spammers attacks on Enigma project on mail-lists. Seems SETI becomes their target too. First sign already showed on this forum. With many of such results: <core_client_version>7.6.9</core_client_version> <![CDATA[ <message> WU download error: couldn't get input files: <file_xfer_error> <file_name>09ja09ae.13806.502643.14.41.226.vlar</file_name> <error_code>-197 (result aborted via GUI)</error_code> <error_message>user requested transfer abort</error_message> </file_xfer_error> </message> ]]> IMHO we need 1) to restrict length of username 2) to rise penalty for abusing quota system 3) to boost moderation. Usernames used for spamming here too. SETI apps news We're not gonna fight them. We're gonna transcend them. |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22158 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Well said Raistmer - such abuse just gives everyone else a headache. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14649 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
Yes, the scientific output of that computer does tell its own story, doesn't it? Application details for host 8053946 |
Harri Liljeroos Send message Joined: 29 May 99 Posts: 3988 Credit: 85,281,665 RAC: 126 |
Wouldn't it be easier to limit the length of username that is visible in the forum pages? I mean to show only maybe 25 characters or something. |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
To be clear, you're saying spammers are creating accounts, crunching data to gain RAC, then aborting all results all so they can post spam in RAC-protected areas of the forums? |
Bill G Send message Joined: 1 Jun 01 Posts: 1282 Credit: 187,688,550 RAC: 182 |
To be clear, you're saying spammers are creating accounts, crunching data to gain RAC, then aborting all results all so they can post spam in RAC-protected areas of the forums? Correct SETI@home classic workunits 4,019 SETI@home classic CPU time 34,348 hours |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
I certainly agree with No.1 and here's some No.2's that could do with some sort of penalty for aborting BLC work and hoarding of other work. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7123613 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7947608 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7921685 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6624102 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8030949 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7114519 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7999209 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7284511 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8031021 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7921601 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7470942 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8103298 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8103292 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8061493 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5745362 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8123671 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7025536 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6420067 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7248689 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7436798 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5501972 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7937692 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7347988 You can also tell by some that when AP's become available the dumping gets worse. Cheers. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11358 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
IMHO Raistmer IMO there is no reason for your opinion to be humble. |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9954 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
To be clear, you're saying spammers are creating accounts, crunching data to gain RAC, then aborting all results all so they can post spam in RAC-protected areas of the forums? Well so far no spam has appeared. Also spammers in the Q/A forums get permanent bans. I thought it was more to do with getting their user names noticed. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
To be clear, you're saying spammers are creating accounts, crunching data to gain RAC, then aborting all results all so they can post spam in RAC-protected areas of the forums? Or just to irritate others. ;-) Cheers. |
Dr Grey Send message Joined: 27 May 99 Posts: 154 Credit: 104,147,344 RAC: 21 |
I certainly agree with No.1 and here's some No.2's that could do with some sort of penalty for aborting BLC work and hoarding of other work. I can see it looks bad but 8123671 is my machine. I had a failed cpu which needed RMA back to Intel but not until I'd tried to RMA the motherboard which turned out to be fine. So I was offline for several weeks and ended up doing a fresh install of windows once I was issued with a replacement. The cached tasks were not recovered. Sorry about that wingmen. I have been contributing to this project for 17 years and this machine currently ranks at number 78 in the top hosts for total credit. Its RAC is picking up again now that it is back online and the abandoned tasks are being dealt with by resending in the way the project is designed to do - so please be discriminating when looking to penalise genuine bad behaviours. |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9954 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
so please be discriminating when looking to penalise genuine bad behaviours +1 |
HAL9000 Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57 |
Wouldn't it be easier to limit the length of username that is visible in the forum pages? I mean to show only maybe 25 characters or something. It was also brought up in the server panic thread. While having a 255 character limit is very accommodating. It is also rather excessive. Anything in the 25-35 character limit seems like it would be more than sufficient. I'm sure that it doesn't help with the error that happen when adding users to Message filtering. There is an issue that after a specific length of users names it throws a screen long list of errors. Which I believe someone explained to be what the total length of users names exceeded the storage space allocated. Since the user IDs are getting added the filtering does continue to work. I am up to 30 users I'm filtering at the moment. So With new users having longer IDs I might hit the limit on the storage space allocated for user IDs soon. SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[ |
-= Vyper =- Send message Joined: 5 Sep 99 Posts: 1652 Credit: 1,065,191,981 RAC: 2,537 |
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-= Vyper =- Send message Joined: 5 Sep 99 Posts: 1652 Credit: 1,065,191,981 RAC: 2,537 |
Delete: Just tested.. From. -= Vyper =- (Is this bullshit for real with extreme amounts of letters in the name, why is it even possible in the first place? Who could have figured that you could write a novel here and it is allowed to have so many characters in the name. Lol _________________________________________________________________________ Addicted to SETI crunching! Founder of GPU Users Group |
Dimly Lit Lightbulb 😀 Send message Joined: 30 Aug 08 Posts: 15399 Credit: 7,423,413 RAC: 1 |
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Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
..... I'm sorry if you got caught up in that, but I did check threads here that others have put up about their PC failing/failure problems (eg; Cruncher Down or Apologies to Wingmen & similar) and your name wasn't amongst them to cross off, now it's a bit late to remove yours from that list. Cheers. |
Dr Grey Send message Joined: 27 May 99 Posts: 154 Credit: 104,147,344 RAC: 21 |
..... It's not about the indignation for being named and shamed, rather seeking to highlight that your proposing a penalty for a lost 1 day cache was inappropriate for a machine in the top 100. Seeking to deflect my point by inferring that I should have posted an apology for hardware failure suggests you were trying to avoid blame for your post. I wasn't blaming, merely pointing out that indiscriminate penalties would have impacted this machine. |
HAL9000 Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57 |
..... Personally I never feel the need to announce when I have a machine die or end up with a load of ghost tasks. The BOINC system is designed to handle that situation. It is annoying that the tasks will take 6 weeks to time out, but it get handled. When there are users that specifically download work without processing it only to have it timeout and request more I think is an issue. There are issue with the server actually applying Max tasks per day value to hosts. Recently I had a host, CPU only, with 100 ghosts. So I aborted all of the tasks it hand on hand and then did a project reset to clear the ghosts. The Max tasks per day for the host was then 1, but on the next work request it received 100 tasks. SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[ |
Raistmer Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 |
Can we at least allow spammer-created distortion die on its own and move out from first page if no active action against such attempted? Just some refrain of posting required for it... SETI apps news We're not gonna fight them. We're gonna transcend them. |
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