Back in I think December I noticed there was a closeout on LED lamps at Stater Bros Market, $3.59 for 7w and $3.99 for 9w and 10.5w lamps, I bought all the GE LED lamps that they had. I still have a 9w and a 7w to install, one requires a new ladder since one location is out of My 6'1" reach.

And how much has this spending of your limited funds on new lamps saved on your electricity bill?

Or put it another way. In which year to you expect to get a return on your investment?

It's a good question. Until I can find a 3-way 50-100-150 LED for less than an arm and a leg, I'm going to keep buying the traditional incandescent for less than $2. I don't think $23 for the LED version would ever work out right in the math dept.

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The mind is a weird and mysterious place

There is a limit on payback estimations.
For example,
I could spend 4 grand on changing out all of my crunching cards.
It would, at best estimate, save me 200 dollars or so of electricity every month.
That would mean in a year and a half or so, the upgrade would be paid for.

Except that my XP rigs would have to be totally overhauled, and I cannot see doing that right now.

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"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

There is a limit on payback estimations.
For example,
I could spend 4 grand on changing out all of my crunching cards.
It would, at best estimate, save me 200 dollars or so of electricity every month.
That would mean in a year and a half or so, the upgrade would be paid for.

Except that my XP rigs would have to be totally overhauled, and I cannot see doing that right now.

But you use those GPU's many hours a day.
How many minutes a day will some of these lamps of Vic's be on. I bet some of them will not be on more than 15 mins average per day. If they are he should have learnt from his Dad many years ago, who probably yelled like mine did, "Switch that _______ light off, do think I'm made of money"

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If anyone (especially Vic... or me) was counting on Publisher's Clearing House to solve all their problems, forget it. The Prize Patrol gave out the $5,000 a week for life prize in Chicago today... to a 93 year old woman. (Okay, in fairness to Fate, she can name someone else who will get the $5K/week for their life after hers expires. I hope she chooses the youngest descendant she has, and that the child's family moves out of the south side to someplace where there aren't frequent headlines about sub-teenagers being shot.)

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David
Sitting on my butt while others boldly go,
Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri.

There is a limit on payback estimations.
For example,
I could spend 4 grand on changing out all of my crunching cards.
It would, at best estimate, save me 200 dollars or so of electricity every month.
That would mean in a year and a half or so, the upgrade would be paid for.

Except that my XP rigs would have to be totally overhauled, and I cannot see doing that right now.

But you use those GPU's many hours a day.
How many minutes a day will some of these lamps of Vic's be on. I bet some of them will not be on more than 15 mins average per day. If they are he should have learnt from his Dad many years ago, who probably yelled like mine did, "Switch that _______ light off, do think I'm made of money"

I have bought a number of LED bulbs, which I use to replace incandescents and CFLs when they burn out. But I do not go around my house actively removing working bulbs. There are some lights that go months without being turned on, so replacing them would be a waste of capital.

A few years ago, my furnace wasn't working and I had to wait a couple of days for someone to come look at it. I did light my oven for heat, but only for a couple of hours, and I was extra vigilant for signs of undue sleepiness. (I also used the oven for actual cooking more than normal.)

Speaking of cooking, time to go nuke the other half of last night's pizza.

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David
Sitting on my butt while others boldly go,
Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri.

"Switch that _______ light off, do think I'm made of money"

Sounds like my father said:)

Ok let Me see instead of using a 14w CFL lamp, I'm using a 7w LED lamp which is 370 lumens(soft white), which cost Me $3.59+tax or $3.87 total

So you are going to save 7W by replacing with an LED lamp.
Google says CA average cost of electricity is 12c/kWh.

so $3.87 will buy how much electricity.
$3.87 ÷ 12c = 32.25 kWh

a 7W lamp will run on 1 kWh for 142.86 hrs.
And therefore 142.86 * 32.25 = 4607 hrs for $3.87.

What you didn't say is how long per day this lamp is used on average. But google says the average is 2hrs/day. So on that average this lamp will have be used for 4607 ÷ 2 = 2303.5 days or 6.3 years or about 77 months, before you see a return on replacing a working CFL lamp.
If that is the case you have just saved yourself 5c/month on your electricity bill for that lamp if it has average usage.

You mention a lamps over the sink and cooker, these are probably not required to be on more than 30 mins/day, if you take advantage of that free sunshine and do these chores during daytime.

I will conclude and say in my opinion false economy to buy that many lamps, $48.40 worth. At most you should have bought 2 or3 so you have some in hand for when present ones fail, about £12. If you didn't have any spares at all. And saved the other £36 for something useful like some new step ladders. Plus there is a good possibility in 6 months they will be even cheaper.

Just looking on Amazon.uk if I needed to buy in bulk then I can get 10 * 5.5W Phillips LED lamps for £14.89 ($18.55) or £16.99 delivery next day (prime). That was on first page, didn't look further. Amazon is not the cheapest place I can buy these.

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Victor.
I have some impediments in my life as well as you do,


I am a functional alcoholic. If the two terms can coexist.

I have a very hard time trying to make them do so.

Not a pretty thing.
Yes, others have problems as well as you do.
We just do not bandy them about 24/7/365.

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"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

What I pay is immaterial, I bought them, you don't like it, even though it was over a month ago, which you also do not like, do you want Me to say what I'm thinking???

I don't need to justify or get approval for what I buy, not from YOU, or anyone...

The cfl lamps are 11 years old.

I have two CFL's over 20 years, the very old encased in glass type. So.

Don't post again about your financial problems if you think that your purchase of those LED's was a good idea. Especially when you reject so forcefully all the help and advice for others which you always reject.

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$48 would have been over half of what these cost.
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Jumping in on Vic's defense - Changing from CFL to LED can have benefits beyond the power saving (which is quite small). With LEDs you get instant light rather than the slow warm up, even if that is only a few seconds. The light source being much smaller it is easier to control where the light is going - so you can light the area you want to light and not the whole room (and this may mean you can use a lower power lamp). There is a much wider range of available colours, and colour temperatures, which is great when you are in an artyfarty mood.

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Bob Smith
Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society)
Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?

Jumping in on Vic's defense - Changing from CFL to LED can have benefits beyond the power saving (which is quite small). With LEDs you get instant light rather than the slow warm up, even if that is only a few seconds. The light source being much smaller it is easier to control where the light is going - so you can light the area you want to light and not the whole room (and this may mean you can use a lower power lamp). There is a much wider range of available colours, and colour temperatures, which is great when you are in an artyfarty mood.

That is all true, but Vic is always going on about his lack of funds. This ~$50 purchase is not going to help that of save him big bucks. Going to LED lighting as and when lamps fail would be a very gradual process, plus I don't yet see and end to the price reductions, although that not be far off.
I'm more worried for Vic's health, those steps or similar would help if a lamp should fail and he cannot reach it.
Also saving or paying debts might also help in improving his credit rating which would also help his housing problems.
A little more in the food budget might help, fish fingers are not a healthy choice.

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Jumping in on Vic's defense - Changing from CFL to LED can have benefits beyond the power saving (which is quite small). With LEDs you get instant light rather than the slow warm up, even if that is only a few seconds. The light source being much smaller it is easier to control where the light is going - so you can light the area you want to light and not the whole room (and this may mean you can use a lower power lamp). There is a much wider range of available colours, and colour temperatures, which is great when you are in an artyfarty mood.

Victor is a grown man now.
We all take his hand now and again.
I have all my daily lights fitted with Cree LED lights now.
Other than the light provided by God above, the best manmade source available.

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"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

Just in case.

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Just in case.

Put a candle in the window................
Long as I can See the Light...........

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"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

Don't forget about the mercury in CFL lights.

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2016 At-Risk Survivor
Confirmed True by Darwin

(12 July 2016, Michigan) Stupidity doesn't get worse than this. Three bikini-clad women were stranded on the banks of the Muskegon River with no food, no shelter, no clothing, when their first river tubing excursion became a "Naked and Afraid" predicament of their own making!

A few hours before, while launching their new tubes at the Maple Island Bridge in Muskegon, they asked a passing stranger how to get back upstream. The stranger told them the river will make a big loop and circle around to take them back to the car. Using this joking advice to plan their trip, they gullible group set off downriver.
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Click above link for full (laughable ending)!!!

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Oh. Em. Gee.

We have a sewer problem at work. Downstairs in the same room where I work. The whole room stinks and the halls around it. We have closed for the day and moved into the room next door.

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David
Sitting on my butt while others boldly go,
Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri.

Oh. Em. Gee.

We have a sewer problem at work. Downstairs in the same room where I work. The whole room stinks and the halls around it. We have closed for the day and moved into the room next door.

You know what they say about stink on S***. Are they going to disinfect?

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While going through some things in my mother's bank box today, I found this letter addressed to me. I haven't opened it, but it makes me curious.

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The mind is a weird and mysterious place