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Angstrom Send message Joined: 20 Sep 99 Posts: 205 Credit: 10,131 RAC: 0 |
Does anybody else find it strange that the classic site still contains the link to this site and is acttively encouraging people to change over. Granted there is now a low key warning in the news section. Wouldnt it be better to remove the link between classic and Boinc Seti projects for now and activly discourage people swapping until these problems are sorted out. To me its not good enough to encourage people to swap then say "well maybe you should go back to classic for a few days" Neil |
STE\/E Send message Joined: 29 Mar 03 Posts: 1137 Credit: 5,334,063 RAC: 0 |
Yes that is kind of stupid on their part. It's like "Come on over, you won't be able to get any work but we'll be glad to have you anyway" ... D'oh I think they should just close it to any new people until they can handle whats here already. 3 Wu's in 1 week is not going to keep anybody's PC going for for very long unless you have a Pentium 90 or something ... :/ |
Will H Send message Joined: 19 Dec 02 Posts: 6 Credit: 422,493 RAC: 0 |
They really didn't anticipate the demand, which you would have thought that they would. |
Angstrom Send message Joined: 20 Sep 99 Posts: 205 Credit: 10,131 RAC: 0 |
> They really didn't anticipate the demand, which you would have thought that > they would. Sure, but even if you forget the monumental mess they've made why still encouirage people to sign up / swap from classic. |
Belial Send message Joined: 22 Jan 02 Posts: 47 Credit: 63,100 RAC: 0 |
Well you can run predictor on BOINC...no reason for your computer to be idle while running BOINC. Maybe It's not such a bad thing...people that have always been 100% seti crunchers can expand their horizans to other projects now. The other projects that will use BOINC should get with it...and hurry up and release while there are so many looking for WU's to process. |
STE\/E Send message Joined: 29 Mar 03 Posts: 1137 Credit: 5,334,063 RAC: 0 |
Maybe It's not such a bad thing...people that have always been 100% seti crunchers can expand their horizans to other projects now. ========== Well thats all fine and dandy but personally I want to run Seti, I don't much care to run the other Projects as my interest lay with Seti. I feel like I am being forced to run the other Projects whether I want to or not if I want any WU's. NOTE: (But nobodys forcing us to do anything we are all here of our own free will) |
Angstrom Send message Joined: 20 Sep 99 Posts: 205 Credit: 10,131 RAC: 0 |
I agree about the other potential Boinc projects needing to get on line quickly. Now is the time you could pick up Seti users and for sure some would not return. I agree it seems a great idea to instal Boinc however the Seti classic link to this page should be removed and sign up to the Boinc Seti version suspended until things have been fixed Neil |
Belial Send message Joined: 22 Jan 02 Posts: 47 Credit: 63,100 RAC: 0 |
> Maybe It's not such a bad thing...people that have always been 100% seti > crunchers can expand their horizans to other projects now. > ========== > > Well thats all fine and dandy but personally I want to run Seti, I don't much > care to run the other Projects as my interest lay with Seti. I feel like I am > being forced to run the other Projects whether I want to or not if I want any > WU's. NOTE: (But nobodys forcing us to do anything we are all here of our own > free will) > > Well the good thing about BOINC is that when SETI is down...you've got something to crunch till it comes back. Might as well pick a second project for times SETI is down...at least in the near term. I just wish BOINC would give us more control over which projects it runs...such as an ONLY RUN secondary project while primary project is down. Maybe allow secondaries to download a few WU's and send back any that don't get crunched when the primary is back up again(only finishing the last wu being worked on) without negating the 3 WU completed rules for others(just get the unprocessed WU's sent back immediately reasigned to someone else). I'll probably try and be generous though with other projects...I might give seti more run time but I'll run other stuff also because there are other usefull things out there to run. you DO WANT BOINC to be a success don't you? That means some of us have to run the other projects also. |
[B^S] Mike Schuller Send message Joined: 23 Feb 03 Posts: 22 Credit: 166,577 RAC: 0 |
Hi all, Just got 11 more WU's this morning. Should keep my computer busy for a day and a half or so anyway. Only lost a couple hours waiting on new WU's. I've been reviewing some of the posts here and wondering why those of you who are so upset don't just go back to crunching SAH1 when no WU's are available here? I am running both all the time, so my computer is crunching WU's for whichever version has them. I know they tell you to delete SAH1 when you install the BOINC version, but I am having no problems running the GUI version of SAH1 at the same time as the BOINC version. It just slowed down a little. Everyone take a deep breath and relax a little. Mike Mike Hooked on 2-23-2003 |
STE\/E Send message Joined: 29 Mar 03 Posts: 1137 Credit: 5,334,063 RAC: 0 |
Yes, I finally got 25 this afternooon on 1 PC. It's just a 850 PIII so that many should keep it busy for the next 7-9 days running Seti Live ... :) I have the other ones running Predictor and I disabled Network access on them so they wouldn't even try to get any. I probably late try to get some on another 1 of them tonight. |
sandorski2 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 3 Credit: 46,945 RAC: 0 |
Like Mike Schuller, I only removed SETI Classic from my Startup(WinXP) so when BOINC stopped giving me WUs, I just fired up Classic and continued on. No big deal really. |
Dash Send message Joined: 1 Jan 00 Posts: 22 Credit: 3,425 RAC: 0 |
Well I agree. I'm new to BOINC and infact only came onboard because of the SETI project. I have to say I don't really find it (BOINC) anything special. Infact, I'm not sure I like the interface or how the program runs at all. What Seti Classic had was a wonderfull quick three step process with a payoff. 1.) Install 2.) Enter your email (for existing users) and 3.) Run it! That was it! I can't even tell you how much fun I had installing it on Public Libraries and school rooms... And the interface was really cool looking. It always caught peoples attention. It was also quite a wonderfull little tool to say "here, look at it" when I got caught installing it on computers that weren't mine... (This is not an indorcement of illegal behavior by the way.) But now see with BOINC, a fitting name for a silly program, its lost on the imagination of it. It's boring.. And its nothing special at all. I think a big part of the frustration we all feel is that we all want to play BIGGER parts with Seti. Its something we obviously all want to do well. And this just feels... less... Then what we had before. -dash ____________________________ www.jumppoint.org |
STE\/E Send message Joined: 29 Mar 03 Posts: 1137 Credit: 5,334,063 RAC: 0 |
That was it! I can't even tell you how much fun I had installing it on Public Libraries and school rooms... And the interface was really cool looking. It always caught peoples attention. It was also quite a wonderfull little tool to say "here, look at it" when I got caught installing it on computers that weren't mine... ========== My My, now we know the secret to your success ... |
[B^S] Mike Schuller Send message Joined: 23 Feb 03 Posts: 22 Credit: 166,577 RAC: 0 |
Dash, Pretty original idea for gaining computer time that you don't have. By the way, you can turn the graphics on for BOINC SAH similar to the GUI version of seti classic but better!! It actually works like a screen saver and moves around the screen. And you can customize the color scheme too. Mike [url=http://www.boinc.dk/index.php?page=user_statistics&userid=2612c27384ef8d513cc642e9c463bf05] |
JAF Send message Joined: 9 Aug 00 Posts: 289 Credit: 168,721 RAC: 0 |
I still say they should have announced a set date to switch to Boinc Seti, but add that there is going to be a period of "simulation or test time" where no one gets credits. Participation is encouraged to test server/system loading. Also simply stop Seti classic to stop the "number chasers". Work out the bugs. Then give everyone a few days to download Wu's (while not accepting results) and then "open the floodgates." All the hardware could have been phased over to Boinc Seti instead of trying to maintain two systems; nothing lost - the Science will catch up. |
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