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zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66302 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
What am I concerned about lately? My car's automatic transmission, I was at a stop light with My foot upon the brake, all of a sudden the engine quit, yes I got the engine to restart, other times I noticed the idle was rough while in gear, though while in park the idle was smooth, purred like Grace. This is not something I need at the moment, next month in Sept is DMV Car Registration time, in Oct and Nov I'm saving up to fix the gas central furnace for the house, in Dec I have property taxes to pay for($102.65, repeat in April for another $102.65), so that means Jan and Feb of 2017 for this, just a fluid change would be $140.00, more than that I don't know, I'll have to ask Lube Express on that. The shift lever is from time to time sticking now, the engine bogs down and stalls in gear, the idle is affected while in gear at low speed, yet the idle is fine when in Park, I'm hoping I'm not having a clutch problem. I'm going to call Lube Express Monday for an estimate, I can't do anything else, I'm broke right now. Some may not believe or give a damn, but it is the truth. I did tell My sister in law about this, She said this is serious. I moved this here from the Don't know thread, since it seems no one was paying any attention... Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
Gordon Lowe Send message Joined: 5 Nov 00 Posts: 12094 Credit: 6,317,865 RAC: 0 |
I think you know a lot more about the mechanical nature of cars than I do. I just hope you can get whatever ails your car fixed. The mind is a weird and mysterious place |
William Rothamel Send message Joined: 25 Oct 06 Posts: 3756 Credit: 1,999,735 RAC: 4 |
check your fluid--see if it is just low or has a burnt look. You can change the fluid yourself-buy three quarts at Auto-zone and follow the directions that you can find on line. If that does not work then it is time to buy a new vehicle--there are some reliable new cars that may cost you less than or about $200 per month to lease. I am buying a 2016 Hyundai Elantra for $219/ month and I love it--it will cut your monthly gasoline bill as well --I have the 6 speed manual and it is a hoot to buzz around in and take on long trips. The 2017's are out now and I hear are even better. You may also have an electrical problem.. Most cars will not start unless the transmission is in Park--this switch could be faulty--although it is not very likely. If you have 100,000 miles or more on that transmission it is probably a worn-out transmission and time to junk the car--don't even think about taking it to a transmission repair shop. How does it behave if you switch the transmission to a lower gear--does it still stall ? |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66302 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
I get $889.40 a month, buying a car at the moment is out, at least not until I'm 62, I'm 56 now. Changing fluid I can't do, I'm disabled, I can't even change a spark plug, I can get it checked though. I get 30mpg in My 1999 Ford Escort zx2 sport Hot Coupe(related to some Mazdas, 323, MX3, Protege), this model was made in 1998 and 1999, the Hot and Cool coupes were combined in 2000 due to poor sales. I don't know, since I didn't try that, as to the mileage, the car has over 109,000 miles on the odometer, I don't have the income to replace the car with. Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66302 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
I think you know a lot more about the mechanical nature of cars than I do. I just hope you can get whatever ails your car fixed. Yeah, I once put together a model of a V8 engine, lots of plastic parts. Thanks. Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
TimeLord04 Send message Joined: 9 Mar 06 Posts: 21140 Credit: 33,933,039 RAC: 23 |
In February of 2001, it cost me $1,800 to have the transmission rebuilt in my 1989 Honda Accord LX-i with Automatic Transmission. This HAD to be done due to the damage to the trans. that occurred while it was in gear on the Freeway when the number 3 bearing in the engine broke loose and scored the crankshaft. This engine damage through the whole drive train out of whack and minor damage was caused to First and Third Gears in the Transmission. The engine damage happened because of a faulty oil pump that decided to NOT pump oil into the engine from the oil pan. So, the car drove several miles without oil lubricating necessary parts. The Oil Light NEVER went on, UNTIL after the damage was done. So, upon also spending $6K in November of 2000 for the Engine Rebuild, I had special gauges put in to tell me Oil Temp and Oil Pressure. YES, this was an expensive endeavor; but, I had a LOT invested in the car. I DID NOT want to lose it that way. So, I spent the money to restore it mechanically. TL TimeLord04 Have TARDIS, will travel... Come along K-9! Join Calm Chaos |
J. Mileski Send message Joined: 9 Jun 02 Posts: 632 Credit: 172,116,532 RAC: 572 |
What am I concerned about lately? I don't think it is the transmission, stalling in gear is usually an engine problem. I think it is time for a set of spark plugs. Does it run rough while in gear at idle? If it does, that is misfire, and a tuneup is the best place to start. |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66302 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
What am I concerned about lately? In gear it does run rough, at low speeds, the car has stalled once already. I have 4 motorsport platinum plugs, I need to find them and put them with the Fram oil filter. Still no oil, yet, I was going to buy 5qts of Royal Purple 5w30 oil(synthetic), that's what the car uses, which is $41.60(no tax and free shipping) on Amazon in a 5qt container, which is less expensive than buying quart sized containers, by half. So far I have the gas to get to town, nearly 3/4 of a tank, but that's all. Lube Express charges $20(labor) if one brings ones own parts for an oil change, as to changing the plugs and properly gaping them, I tried doing that once, I have one good arm, the other had been dislocated years ago, so no leverage there, I'll have to ask how much that will cost. Currently I have 4 iridium spark plugs in the car. I have a K&N air filter, so no changes need to be made there right now, not until there has been 50,000 miles on the air filter, and then it just needs to be reoiled. Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66302 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Ok I found the 4 spark plugs, they're Motorcraft, not Motorsport, My bad. Specifically 4 SP-478 Double Platinum plugs. Well I have the plugs, an oil filter and lots of time. Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
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Dr Who Fan Send message Joined: 8 Jan 01 Posts: 3335 Credit: 715,342 RAC: 4 |
I don't think it is the transmission, stalling in gear is usually an engine problem. I think it is time for a set of spark plugs. Does it run rough while in gear at idle? If it does, that is misfire, and a tuneup is the best place to start. I'm no "grease monkey" but 30+ years of owning and doing basic maintenance on my own and spouses cars, I would have to agree with J. Mileski diagnosis "engine problem(s)". Rough idle and/or stalls while in gear are the first sign you car needs a tune-up. Dirty Spark Plugs and the associated Wires are most common causes of a misfire - in that extreme desert heat the wires get dry and crack faster than in other parts of the US; a clogged/dirty fuel filter is also a remote possibility. I don't know if CA has a program like we have in TX that if a car fails the mandated state inspection you *might* be eligible for some state "pollution reduction funding" to get the emissions back in to compliance. |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22508 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
The symptoms MIGHT be a transmission problem, particularly if the fluid and filters have never been changed, but I would be looking at engine related issues first. If the fluid is low then you can, on some transmissions, get a stall when sitting in gear with the brakes on, also if the filters are dirty then the transmission can be reluctant to go into "slip" mode. Many places will do a fluid change, but not change/clean the filters as that can be a lot of workshop time on some models. Dirty fluid can lead to all sorts of internal issues - scored brake bands, blocked servos, blocked passages (some are VERY small), so the problem may not be cured by a simple fluid change, but require a lot of additional work and that "ain't cheap". So, before going for the transmission have the simples listed looked at - plug leads, air/vacuum pipes - now that would be a good place to start - they are 16 years old and bound to be approaching their life end. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66302 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
I don't think it is the transmission, stalling in gear is usually an engine problem. I think it is time for a set of spark plugs. Does it run rough while in gear at idle? If it does, that is misfire, and a tuneup is the best place to start. I'm not due for another smog inspection, until next year, this year the registration is all that is required. The car did pass smog last time. As to that funding, um, not that I know of. A tune up, I can't do right now, September is when that $90 DMV registration renewal is due, in Oct and Nov is when I need to get the home's furnace repaired, I have property taxes of $102.65 due in December(1st installment), So I'll just have 3 months to get a Tune up(maybe $20), oil change($20+41-54 for oil), and the transmission fluid changed($140), in January to March, Property Taxes 2nd installment are due in April 2017. Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66302 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
The symptoms MIGHT be a transmission problem, particularly if the fluid and filters have never been changed, but I would be looking at engine related issues first. If the fluid is low then you can, on some transmissions, get a stall when sitting in gear with the brakes on, also if the filters are dirty then the transmission can be reluctant to go into "slip" mode. Many places will do a fluid change, but not change/clean the filters as that can be a lot of workshop time on some models. Dirty fluid can lead to all sorts of internal issues - scored brake bands, blocked servos, blocked passages (some are VERY small), so the problem may not be cured by a simple fluid change, but require a lot of additional work and that "ain't cheap". And My car has a cross member that is in the way I was told. Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22508 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
That all depends on if the cross member is bolted or welded in - Ford did both at various times in the life of that bodyshell design. If it is welded, and they have to drop the bottom of the transmission to get at the filters expect a VERY big bill, much more than the $quoted - $20 labour will only cover s simple drain and refill, not the clean/replace of the filters :-( Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66302 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
That all depends on if the cross member is bolted or welded in - Ford did both at various times in the life of that bodyshell design. As to dropping the tranny and stuff, except for the cost, I have no disagreement there. $80 is for a tune up(I just called Lube Express, I've been a customer there in the past, higher than I thought, but not by a lot, only cause I already have the plugs and a k&n air filter), the tune up would include stuff like plug wires, $20 is for an oil change, $41-54 Royal Purple 5qts of 5w30 synthetic motor oil, $140 to have the transmission fluid changed(is what I was quoted). Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66302 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Well I did find another source for the 5qts of Royal Purple 5w30 synthetic motor oil for My car, with tax and pickup at the local Walmart, local being about 13 miles from where I live at, the 5qts, would cost about $41.01 currently, as I type this. Or about $8.20 a quart, from what I've read this oil is good for high mileage engines, I believe it. Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
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