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Message 1829206 - Posted: 8 Nov 2016, 15:26:26 UTC
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Talking of party, why is the election on the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November?

odd day, why not moved to better day and get more voters.

Aussies hold them at weekend and party around the barbie, all day until the result.


The Aussies have a better way :-)
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Message 1829203 - Posted: 8 Nov 2016, 14:50:52 UTC

It is in response to the modern life complications of voting on Tuesday that several states have allowed early voting as well as absentee voting.
My wife complained that her sisters in another state had already voted but she was unable to vote until today.
Typically, Democrats lead in early voting, especially in-person early voting, because their voters are not as likely to go out to the polls as Republicans, said Michael McDonald, an election expert and associate professor at the University of Florida. The GOP, however, tends to make up ground through mail in absentee ballots, McDonald said.


I guess I favor a single day to vote but I'm torn by my wish that everyone be given the same opportunity by early voting.
The biggest problem I have witnessed with single day voting is the after work rush. At certain locations, lines at polls can be discouragingly long for anyone expecting to vote after 4:PM.
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Message 1829201 - Posted: 8 Nov 2016, 14:31:21 UTC - in response to Message 1829200.  

Talking of party, why is the election on the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November?

But why on a Tuesday?
Well, the 1800s lawmakers thought the Americans had a long way to their polling station and often have to start the trip the day before the election. To intervene on people worshiping on Sunday was unthinkable, then Monday was not a choice, but Tuesday was a good fit.

For today's Americans the choice Tuesday can be anything but adequate. Many are forced to take time off work and it often means loss of wages. Nor is there any federal law guaranteeing workers time off from work to go and vote.

Thanks Jann, and if I may expand.....the reason November was chosen is 1800's America was a primarily agrarian society which meant taking time off (2 days as pointed out by Jann) during growing seasons was not possible for most citizens therefor the only time really available was after the final harvest in the southern most states and before deep winter snows would curtail travel to the polls.

And most employers in the USA allow their workers time to vote on Election Day.

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Message 1829200 - Posted: 8 Nov 2016, 14:18:38 UTC - in response to Message 1829196.  

Talking of party, why is the election on the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November?

But why on a Tuesday?
Well, the 1800s lawmakers thought the Americans had a long way to their polling station and often have to start the trip the day before the election. To intervene on people worshiping on Sunday was unthinkable, then Monday was not a choice, but Tuesday was a good fit.

For today's Americans the choice Tuesday can be anything but adequate. Many are forced to take time off work and it often means loss of wages. Nor is there any federal law guaranteeing workers time off from work to go and vote.
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Message 1829196 - Posted: 8 Nov 2016, 13:58:04 UTC - in response to Message 1829192.  
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Clinton wins the 1st vote, in Dixville Notch, New Hampshire (pop. 12)

At midnight local time, eight ballots were cast in Dixville Notch, New Hampshire.

The results were: four votes for Hillary Clinton, two for Donald Trump, one for Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson, and one for 2012 Republican candidate Mitt Romney (via a write-in)

These guys and gals have always waited up until midnight. So they will be the first election results.

Wonder if they party before or after they cast their vote.

Talking of party, why is the election on the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November?

odd day, why not moved to better day and get more voters.

Aussies hold them at weekend and party around the barbie, all day until the result.
P.S. Same could be said for the UK we always hold them on Thursdays, I have no idea why.
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Message 1829192 - Posted: 8 Nov 2016, 13:41:51 UTC - in response to Message 1829149.  

Clinton wins the 1st vote, in Dixville Notch, New Hampshire (pop. 12)

At midnight local time, eight ballots were cast in Dixville Notch, New Hampshire.

The results were: four votes for Hillary Clinton, two for Donald Trump, one for Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson, and one for 2012 Republican candidate Mitt Romney (via a write-in)

These guys and gals have always waited up until midnight. So they will be the first election results.

Wonder if they party before or after they cast their vote.
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Message 1829149 - Posted: 8 Nov 2016, 7:41:12 UTC

Clinton wins the 1st vote, in Dixville Notch, New Hampshire (pop. 12)

At midnight local time, eight ballots were cast in Dixville Notch, New Hampshire.

The results were: four votes for Hillary Clinton, two for Donald Trump, one for Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson, and one for 2012 Republican candidate Mitt Romney (via a write-in)
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Message 1829125 - Posted: 8 Nov 2016, 5:17:40 UTC

Please everybody who can vote in this U.S. Presidential election, get out and do it.
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Message 1829123 - Posted: 8 Nov 2016, 5:09:58 UTC - in response to Message 1829098.  

@Sarge LOL! Perfect. Yes. That's the spirit!

@bobby you're always banging on about sources... there are enough of those in the Sirota article to keep you busy 'till Xmas.

@everybody my point wasn't to start a discussion on Social Security. My point was she is faaar more of a wolf in sheep's clothing than the wolf in sheep's clothing Angela and es99 think she is.

Anyway, I guess I'll see you guys after the outage. And remember, no matter who wins:
Winter Is Coming :)

Good Night and Good Luck America!!!!
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Message 1829100 - Posted: 8 Nov 2016, 1:51:55 UTC - in response to Message 1829074.  

I await your citation.


Wow OK, I got lucky! I thought it was going to take me a couple days to find the Blackrock clip but it only took a couple minutes. So even though this is a "long read" this is just the "to get you started" link:

http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/hillary-clinton-wall-street-financial-industry-may-control-retirement-savings

Now off for TLOTR version that dates back almost 20 years. But should be easy enough to find some info... punchline has been etched in my brain:

Monica Lewinsky saves Social Security :)
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Message 1829098 - Posted: 8 Nov 2016, 1:47:35 UTC - in response to Message 1829022.  

I would also prefer the criticisms against Hilary were based in reality.


OK. Here's one:

Are you prepared to watch her try and privatize Social Security?

Based in reality?

Defend Social Security against Republican attacks.[snip]
Fight any attempts to gamble seniors’ retirement security on the stock market through privatization.

(source)


On a related note, suggesting Alex's fear could be reasonably founded.

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/manufacturing/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61Cq422Tb4c
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Message 1829089 - Posted: 8 Nov 2016, 1:25:00 UTC - in response to Message 1829024.  

Are you prepared to watch her try and privatize Social Security?

Alex where did you get that?


It's my superpower :)

Not to mention I'm left here all alone to do the dirty work while you lot are all off on a Trump crusade!

The guy is trolling the hell out of us. We've all known that looong before Super Tuesday. We should have had one last dig at him the day after and then ignored him. Never feed the troll, right?

What was I here for again?

Alex where did you get that?

Some Blackrock weirdo reminded me of this "little" backstory. And I've been kicking myself for forgetting all about it. What kind of info are you looking for? Just enough to get you started or the "kitchen sink" version?
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Message 1829074 - Posted: 8 Nov 2016, 0:10:16 UTC - in response to Message 1829072.  

Alex I'm off to the neighborhood pub for dinner and to watch the Monday night NFL game. I await your citation.
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Message 1829072 - Posted: 8 Nov 2016, 0:05:34 UTC - in response to Message 1829022.  

bobby, I don't do pissing contests, sorry.

But I see I caught betreger off-guard and I'm 99% certain that he's not being adversarial for the sake of being adversarial.

Which means I have to answer the question.
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Message 1829044 - Posted: 7 Nov 2016, 20:48:16 UTC - in response to Message 1828942.  
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I could go on, but all this election has done is shone a light on just far we need to go to achieve equality. These things might not effect you, but they are very real to me.

All persons running for President, and if elected. Must endure the lies, hatred and vitriol directed against them. Just a normal part of the process.

The lies, hatred and vitriol directed against her. Has nothing to do with her gender.

Hillary is getting Equal Treatment. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Bollox.

This link agrees with you.
https://flipboard.com/@flipboard/flip.it%2FYJ4yQa-heres-every-wildly-sexist-moment-from-t/f-dd141ff748%2Fbusinessinsider.com

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Message 1829043 - Posted: 7 Nov 2016, 20:45:14 UTC - in response to Message 1829041.  

Hillary is getting Equal Treatment. Nothing more. Nothing less.


Bollox


I agree with ES99, if she were being treated equally she would be in the same situation as David Patraeus.

But she has the advantage of a DOJ and FBI in her pocket.
Really Equal.........

As the saying goes, "All men(women) are created Equal, some are just created more equal than others."

Heh, I think you meant:

“All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.”

― George Orwell, Animal Farm
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1829041 - Posted: 7 Nov 2016, 20:41:14 UTC
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Hillary is getting Equal Treatment. Nothing more. Nothing less.


Bollox


I agree with ES99, if she were being treated equally she would be in the same situation as David Patraeus.

But she has the advantage of a DOJ and FBI in her pocket.
Really Equal.........

As the saying goes, "All men(women) are created Equal, some are just created more equal than others."

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Message 1829035 - Posted: 7 Nov 2016, 20:26:26 UTC - in response to Message 1828942.  
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I could go on, but all this election has done is shone a light on just far we need to go to achieve equality. These things might not effect you, but they are very real to me.

All persons running for President, and if elected. Must endure the lies, hatred and vitriol directed against them. Just a normal part of the process.

The lies, hatred and vitriol directed against her. Has nothing to do with her gender.

Hillary is getting Equal Treatment. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Bollox.

Why should she be better treated than...

Bush Jr., Bill Clinton, Reagan, Carter, Nixon, LBJ, Lincoln (before his assassination), and most other Presidents and Candidates?

No reason.

The belief that most of the accusations, lies, half-truths, truth, et al, against Hillary. Are due to her gender.

Is total Bollox.
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Message 1829024 - Posted: 7 Nov 2016, 19:47:21 UTC - in response to Message 1828963.  

Are you prepared to watch her try and privatize Social Security?

Alex where did you get that?
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Message 1829022 - Posted: 7 Nov 2016, 19:14:51 UTC - in response to Message 1828963.  

I would also prefer the criticisms against Hilary were based in reality.


OK. Here's one:

Are you prepared to watch her try and privatize Social Security?

Based in reality?

Defend Social Security against Republican attacks.[snip]
Fight any attempts to gamble seniors’ retirement security on the stock market through privatization.

(source)
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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