I've head that due to the well published and long standing disagreements Hiliary continues to have with her Secret Service detail she will be replacing them with her original private security force.

And if/when she becomes President?

Our choice is between two bozo's!

More precisely, it is a choice between a potential fascist dictator (Trump) and a mobster (Clinton)... unless we can have an extreme miracle and get one of the other candidates (Johnson, Stein, etc.) elected...

Agree regarding Johnson.

Third party candidates, including very popular 'Teddy' Roosevelt in 1912, haven't won since Lincoln.

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Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
--- George Santayana

Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
--- Lord Acton

I've head that due to the well published and long standing disagreements Hiliary continues to have with her Secret Service detail she will be replacing them with her original private security force.

And if/when she becomes President?

Our choice is between two bozo's!

More precisely, it is a choice between a potential fascist dictator (Trump) and a mobster (Clinton)... unless we can have an extreme miracle and get one of the other candidates (Johnson, Stein, etc.) elected...

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https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

#Texit

Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.

With all those crooks in the US, it was obvious that one day you would have 2 contending. :-)

I've head that due to the well published and long standing disagreements Hiliary continues to have with her Secret Service detail she will be replacing them with her original private security force.

And if/when she becomes President?

Our choice is between two bozo's!

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Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
--- George Santayana

Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
--- Lord Acton

I've head that due to the well published and long standing disagreements Hiliary continues to have with her Secret Service detail she will be replacing them with her original private security force.



"I HAVE FLYING MONKEYS AND I'M NOT AFRAID TO USE THEM!"

LOL....now THAT surely fits her......
Meow!

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"Learn from yesterday. Live for today. Hope for tomorrow." Albert Einstein
"With cats." kittyman

I've head that due to the well published and long standing disagreements Hiliary continues to have with her Secret Service detail she will be replacing them with her original private security force.



"I HAVE FLYING MONKEYS AND I'M NOT AFRAID TO USE THEM!"

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

& brought to the screen by Wilfred Greatorex's 1990

Dubbed 1984+6.

Both were great books & interesting.

Why did Reagan win?

Because he was a union boss!

We need more Union Bosses. To counter the Capitalists.

"Proletarians of all countries, unite!"

Thoughtcrime, newspeak, doublethink... I urge each and every one of you to read 1984.

Should be Required Reading in all Universities.

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Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
--- George Santayana

Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
--- Lord Acton

Why did Reagan win?

Because he was a union boss!

Yep. S.A.G. (screen actors guild)... And he was a Democrat.

Democrats used to be the conservative party and the republicans the moderate/liberal party... Then along came Goldwater and LBJ. Republicans went conservative, Democrats went liberal.

Reagan did not leave the Democrat party... in his own words, it left him.

Now it looks like that the two parties are on their way back...

Trump, the Republican nominee, appears to be pandering to the old core-group of the Democrats: organized labor.

Clinton, the Democrat nominee, appears to be courting many of the Conservative core-groups.

In reality, both the Democrats and the Republicans are the same: Both are authoritarian parties concerned with power and control. Power and control over the hearts and minds of the People. To use an example from literature: IngSoc from Orwell's 1984.

In Orwell's 1984, the 3 Party slogans were:

1. War is Peace.
2. Freedom is Slavery.
3. Ignorance is Strength.

Sound familiar to today?

Thoughtcrime, newspeak, doublethink... I urge each and every one of you to read 1984. If you have already read it, please read it again. Then make up your own mind about what is going on today.

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https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

#Texit

Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.

Sarge,

When you say, "Wahhabism: How Saudi Arabia Exports Ultra-Conservative Islam," you are adding to the confusion of the symbols we use to communicate.

You should at least add some sort of caveat to that statement.

Because I say I'm conservative, many people will now think that I want to oppress women, execute people for the crime of being homosexual, and chop the hands off thieves.

And I'm a republican in a UK context, though that says nothing of which party I'll vote for in the US, what of it? Those in the UK know what is meant even if it sometimes confuses americans. The US does not have primacy for English language use around the world (which is a good thing, many americans are confused about the terms "republic" and "democracy", thought that's be done to death in other threads). If you were to say you're a "conservative Muslim", it could mean something very different to a "conservative Republican". If you want language to be clear, use more words to clarify what you mean.

Which rules do the "conservative" Saudis like to follow?

The rules I like to follow are not those.

bobby,

Look at the history of the democrat party. They are the ones who who didn't want to free the slaves. They are the ones who had to be defeated in our civil war. And they are the ones who wrote the Jim Crow laws.

Today's democrat continues to tax and spend. They increase spending but the taxes they raise don't match it. Look at what people are paying in the blue states. You're in NY, right? You should know. Look at your pay stub. Look at the lines in your municipal, state and federal income taxes. Look at the receipts as you make purchases. What percentage of your pay gets confiscated from you before you get it? If the democrats could do it, they'd hide this information from you.

Demand side economics failed in the 30s. Demand side economics failed in the 60s and 70s. And demand side economics is failing today.

Release the shackles from the American worker and we'll experience a renaissance like we did in the 80s. Only this time, maybe we'll have some republicans in congress who follow along cutting spending as they cut taxes. The federal press is not telling you the truth about what happened in the 80s. Reagan cut taxes, democrats saw an increase in projected revenue within two years, and then went on a spending spree. The federal press now says Reagan cut taxes and that's the only reason the debt ballooned.

Today we have had democrats in power for 30 years. Why hasn't this party of slavery fixed anything yet? Obama has added more to our national debt in his term than all previous presidents before him. Who's NOT thinking critically?

The DEBT is a problem. Fix that and many other problems will be fixed.

Solution:

http://conventionofstates.com

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I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

Why did Reagan win?

Because he was a union boss!

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Become educated about Reagan; Largest tax increase in history!
https://thinkprogress.org/10-things-conservatives-dont-want-you-to-know-about-ronald-reagan-7a87723a4f68#.kqqxewn4w
Now when you get over your shock that Reagan was a RINO ...

Absolutely correct!

As with Trump. Reagan was outside the Political Establishment.

He, and his supporters. Were also called the same names, by the same people, as Trump.

Why did Reagan win?

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Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
--- George Santayana

Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
--- Lord Acton

Sarge,

When you say, "Wahhabism: How Saudi Arabia Exports Ultra-Conservative Islam," you are adding to the confusion of the symbols we use to communicate.

You should at least add some sort of caveat to that statement.

Because I say I'm conservative, many people will now think that I want to oppress women, execute people for the crime of being homosexual, and chop the hands off thieves.

No, they will think you want to jail people for 50 years for smoking some weed, jail them for burning a flag, jail them for doing any work on Sunday, refuse trans people a restroom, bar all knowledge of contraception ... execute, yes you are in favor of capital punishment, just not pubic where the people might see it and rise up against you.

bobby,

Look at the history of the democrat party.

Let's. Until the 1960's all the southern states were rabid democrat. Then in the late 60's the Democrats dropped their racism and George Wallace broke off the DixieCrats from the Democrats. By the 1990's all of those racists had left the Democrats forever and joined the Republicans, calling themselves TEA. They had to have some place to spread their racist filth.

They are the ones who who didn't want to free the slaves. They are the ones who had to be defeated in our civil war. And they are the ones who wrote the Jim Crow laws.

Very correct. They are now the TEA who joined and subverted the republicans.

Today's democrat continues to tax and spend.

Yes, just like Ronald Reagan!

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Become educated about Reagan; Largest tax increase in history!
https://thinkprogress.org/10-things-conservatives-dont-want-you-to-know-about-ronald-reagan-7a87723a4f68#.kqqxewn4w
Now when you get over your shock that Reagan was a RINO ...

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Demand side economics failed in the 30s.

No it did not.

Demand side economics failed in the 60s and 70s. And demand side economics is failing today.

You are correct on this one because since Reagan we have had trickle down.

Release the shackles from the American worker and we'll experience a renaissance like we did in the 80s.

That was the wild west from the "reforms" to our financial system culminating in the great recession of 2008. The chickens came home to roost.
I wish I were able to live in the simplistic alternate universe you see but the facts and numbers totally belie your viewpoint.

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<plaint>If people could agree on the meanings of terms, things, ... the world would be a better place</plaint>

DING! I've been saying this for quite some time.

Meanings have blurred. left/right/democrat/republican/liberal/conservative...

(Un)fortunately language is not static, words acquire new meanings (for instance, sophisticated does not mean the same thing it did a century ago, the root - sophist - might help you figure out what it meant to your grandparents). If you want to to speak in a language that does not change as much as English, learn Latin.

Wahhabism: How Saudi Arabia Exports Ultra-Conservative Islam.

Islam is conservative? Ultra-conservative?

It can be yes:

Conservatism as a political and social philosophy promotes retaining traditional social institutions in the context of culture and civilization. Some conservatives seek to preserve things as they are, emphasizing stability and continuity, while others, called reactionaries, oppose modernism and seek a return to "the way things were".

(source).

While you might not like the source, conservatism as a social philosophy has meant the preservation of traditions for a long time. Ultra-conservative might be a synonym for "reactionary", and would certainly seem a suitable description for many that describe themselves as "fundamentalists". In the Arab world a conservative might oppose women's rights, while in the US a conservative might oppose same-sex marriages, both are conservative views within their cultural context.

For the third time from what I can remember, we need to define what we believe in clear terms: Slave party vs Freedom party.

Can you show how either of the main parties in the US matches those descriptions today? If not, the terms are not clear to a modern reader.

But perhaps that is how it is wanted, confusion.

DOUBLE DING! Yes. By design. Confused people are easier to rule over in a slave society.

Confusion might not be the enemy, Data, critical thinking and education don't eliminate confusion, though they can reduce the ability of leaders to mislead a population. When a potential leader publicly states that global warming is a "concept" created by the Chinese:

The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive.

(source)

and then denies this on TV,

CLINTON: [...] Donald thinks that climate change is a hoax perpetrated by the Chinese. I think it's real.

TRUMP: I did not. I did not. I do not say that.

(source)

those that have data and are able to think critically may be confused, those that don't, might be mislead.

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I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

Note the complete lack of ways to discredit the claim "Islam is Conservative".
Further, fiscally, probably Hamas (?) is closest to acting socialist (not communist, to the one that complains about blurred definitions but is most guilty). I would not be surprised if most Islamic countries are also fiscally conservative.

Gosh OPEC you think?

That's in the back of my mind without having looked up any specifics on the fiscal/economic policies of any Muslim countries.

More further to the disagreer: we tend to hate that in others which we hate in ourselves, thus the rabid dislike of Islam from ... ?

Note to all: if you are on my ignore list, it's not what you say, it's that you say it like an ... .

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Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes.

Note the complete lack of ways to discredit the claim "Islam is Conservative".
Further, fiscally, probably Hamas (?) is closest to acting socialist (not communist, to the one that complains about blurred definitions but is most guilty). I would not be surprised if most Islamic countries are also fiscally conservative.

Gosh OPEC you think?

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Note the complete lack of ways to discredit the claim "Islam is Conservative".
Further, fiscally, probably Hamas (?) is closest to acting socialist (not communist, to the one that complains about blurred definitions but is most guilty). I would not be surprised if most Islamic countries are also fiscally conservative.

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Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes.