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Message 1811822 - Posted: 23 Aug 2016, 12:12:30 UTC
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One wonders what the odds would be to get the FBI director on obstruction of justice charges for declining to charge Clinton with even a few of the numerous that felon has committed...

Different 'take'.

In the Real Politic World of Washington: He went as far as he could.

His personal, and unannounced public listing of his 'Bill of Particulars', was very Politically Powerful.

Yes... Unannounced, so 'They' couldn't stop him.

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Message 1811715 - Posted: 23 Aug 2016, 4:48:13 UTC - in response to Message 1811660.  

Establishment Democrats Are Worried About The Clinton Foundation /


As well they should be...

Here is an interesting story about the..... mess.


http://nypost.com/2016/08/22/feds-find-thousands-more-clinton-emails/

A newly released trove of emails from Hillary Clinton’s top aide Huma Abedin shows she repeatedly did favors for high-dollar contributors to the Clinton Foundation — including a foreign national with a criminal record that made her nervous.

...

In more than a dozen email exchanges, Abedin provided expedited, direct access to Clinton for donors who had contributed from $25,000 to $10 million to the Clinton Foundation.

...



I also saw a segment on this on the Anderson Cooper 360 'show' tonight on CNN...

One wonders what the odds would be to get the FBI director on obstruction of justice charges for declining to charge Clinton with even a few of the numerous that felon has committed...
https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

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Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.
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Message 1811660 - Posted: 23 Aug 2016, 2:38:09 UTC

Establishment Democrats Are Worried About The Clinton Foundation /
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Message 1811567 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 23:01:26 UTC - in response to Message 1811499.  

So you have the luxury to throw muslims, blacks, women, homesexuals, hispanics and so on under the bus to salve your conscience? Because in this regard there is a clear difference between the candidates that are likely to win.


This is "identity politics", is it not? I think you know me well enough, including through my recent posts, regarding what I think about discrimination.

However, a case has been made (one I believe) that if we handled the economic problems of Main Street, not Wall Street, the puppet masters would have a much smaller audience trying to play divide and conquer with the 99%.

I could try to present you links making the argument.

One was posted by a black friend of mine on social media. "Racebaiting: 101". It addressed our implicit 3 tier caste system. Another source is internet pundit Kyle Kulinski.

Trump offers so many positions and speaks so negatively, it is hard to believe he will help economically and will not discriminate.

Hillary will not be another Obama. She's even further right of the neo-liberal rightist Obama. She''ll probably make token to good faith efforts in the identity politics realm, reducing discrimination, but still 99% of us will be thinking about the economics of Main Street.

Johnson has a much smaller chance, but if he got in would probably throw us under the economic bus as well.

Stein might try to help both reduce discrimination and help economically, but she's got even less of a chance than Johnson, would have a heck of a fight with both houses of Congress if she were elected and I still wants to know where she stands on anti- or pseudo-science things.

I don't think we have ANY decent choices.


Racebaiting 101; i.e., it's the Main STreet Economy, Es.
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Message 1811514 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 20:17:35 UTC - in response to Message 1811512.  

We used to have two competing political parties. One wanted more power and control, the other wanted to push as much power and authority down to the lowest level. We don't have that anymore.

Never did. We had one party that wanted to control the bedroom and the other wanted to control the wallet. It was inevitable that control would win.


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Message 1811512 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 20:15:58 UTC - in response to Message 1811485.  

We used to have two competing political parties. One wanted more power and control, the other wanted to push as much power and authority down to the lowest level. We don't have that anymore.

Never did. We had one party that wanted to control the bedroom and the other wanted to control the wallet. It was inevitable that control would win.

Gary Johnson for President.
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Message 1811499 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 19:56:38 UTC - in response to Message 1807601.  

So you have the luxury to throw muslims, blacks, women, homesexuals, hispanics and so on under the bus to salve your conscience? Because in this regard there is a clear difference between the candidates that are likely to win.


This is "identity politics", is it not? I think you know me well enough, including through my recent posts, regarding what I think about discrimination.

However, a case has been made (one I believe) that if we handled the economic problems of Main Street, not Wall Street, the puppet masters would have a much smaller audience trying to play divide and conquer with the 99%.

I could try to present you links making the argument.

One was posted by a black friend of mine on social media. "Racebaiting: 101". It addressed our implicit 3 tier caste system. Another source is internet pundit Kyle Kulinski.

Trump offers so many positions and speaks so negatively, it is hard to believe he will help economically and will not discriminate.

Hillary will not be another Obama. She's even further right of the neo-liberal rightist Obama. She''ll probably make token to good faith efforts in the identity politics realm, reducing discrimination, but still 99% of us will be thinking about the economics of Main Street.

Johnson has a much smaller chance, but if he got in would probably throw us under the economic bus as well.

Stein might try to help both reduce discrimination and help economically, but she's got even less of a chance than Johnson, would have a heck of a fight with both houses of Congress if she were elected and I still wants to know where she stands on anti- or pseudo-science things.

I don't think we have ANY decent choices.
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Message 1811497 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 19:42:54 UTC - in response to Message 1811487.  

Demonstrated? Try hypothesized, lol,

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Message 1811487 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 19:31:00 UTC

Demonstrated? Try hypothesized, lol,
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Message 1811475 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 18:39:30 UTC - in response to Message 1811440.  
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Clinton says U.S. could "totally obliterate" Iran.
Old news, but I maintain it is relevant.

Oh dear.
Saying "totally obliterate" a country is a big threat.
Not even Putin has used that terms. (Well his advisors have...)

Read up on obliterate.

The two A-Bombs (there were none left in our arsenal), were used to save many American lives. In addition to stopping Stalin.

Unintended consequences?

Saved many, many, many, Japanese lives. They were not going to surrender, and were ready to commit National Suicide.

Having read extensively regarding the Internal Japanese Debate during this time:

The A-Bombs gave them a 'Face Saving' reason to surrender.
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Message 1811440 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 17:27:02 UTC - in response to Message 1811204.  

Clinton says U.S. could "totally obliterate" Iran.
Old news, but I maintain it is relevant.

Oh dear.
Saying "totally obliterate" a country is a big threat.
Not even Putin has used that terms. (Well his advisors have...)

Read up on obliterate.
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Message 1811379 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 15:47:02 UTC - in response to Message 1811204.  

Clinton says U.S. could "totally obliterate" Iran.
Old news, but I maintain it is relevant.

Oh dear.
Saying "totally obliterate" a country is a big threat.
Not even Putin has used that terms. (Well his advisors have...)
Sometimes Trump seems to be more trustworthy than Hillary.
But are Hillary and Donald the only ones that the american people have to choose from.
The US is a great country with about 310 million citizens.
Vote for heavens sake!



No, there are others... Such as Johnson(L) and Stein(G).

But, the two Major Parties (D) and (R) have so rigged the system that it is VERY difficult for another Party to get anywhere.
https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

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Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

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Message 1811357 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 14:17:20 UTC - in response to Message 1811348.  

Clinton says U.S. could "totally obliterate" Iran.
Old news, but I maintain it is relevant.

Oh dear.
Saying "totally obliterate" a country is a big threat.
Not even Putin has used that terms. (Well his advisors have...)
Sometimes Trump seems to be more trustworthy than Hillary.
But are Hillary and Donald the only ones that the american people have to choose from.
The US is a great country with about 310 million citizens.
Vote for heavens sake!

Since the end of WWII. Exactly what threat (real - not implied) does one need to STOP the Initial Use of Nuclear Weapons against innocents?
How does one STOP Insane, but not stupid Marxists, Nazi's, Jihadists, etc.
Sorry... But when a Real War is fought. Innocents are always killed by a Civilized and Ethical People.
Was it successful. When we told the Mass Murdering and Enslaving Marxists. You use nuclear weapons - we incarcerate you?
Unfortunately... Civilized and Ethical Cultures. Never learn from history. And must always repeat, against their wishes, what must be done to save their Civilization.
Civilized Cultures have great strengths. But great weaknesses regarding what is necessary to Defeat Evil.

Speaking of learning from the history.
https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/museum-honoring-stalins-legacy-set-to-open-in-russia-44658
And Hillary...
Perhaps she has learned from Maggie Thatcher:)
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Message 1811348 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 13:54:26 UTC - in response to Message 1811204.  

Clinton says U.S. could "totally obliterate" Iran.
Old news, but I maintain it is relevant.

Oh dear.
Saying "totally obliterate" a country is a big threat.
Not even Putin has used that terms. (Well his advisors have...)
Sometimes Trump seems to be more trustworthy than Hillary.
But are Hillary and Donald the only ones that the american people have to choose from.
The US is a great country with about 310 million citizens.
Vote for heavens sake!

Since the end of WWII. Exactly what threat (real - not implied) does one need to STOP the Initial Use of Nuclear Weapons against innocents?

How does one STOP Insane, but not stupid Marxists, Nazi's, Jihadists, etc.

Sorry... But when a Real War is fought. Innocents are always killed by a Civilized and Ethical People.

Was it successful. When we told the Mass Murdering and Enslaving Marxists. You use nuclear weapons - we incarcerate you?

Unfortunately... Civilized and Ethical Cultures. Never learn from history. And must always repeat, against their wishes, what must be done to save their Civilization.

Civilized Cultures have great strengths. But great weaknesses regarding what is necessary to Defeat Evil.
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
--- George Santayana

Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
--- Lord Acton
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Message 1811217 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 3:49:03 UTC - in response to Message 1811205.  

Meow.

Most of the US presidents are or have been dog lovers.
Now I see the problem.

Arf arf:)
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Message 1811205 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 3:20:26 UTC - in response to Message 1811204.  
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Clinton says U.S. could "totally obliterate" Iran.
Old news, but I maintain it is relevant.

Oh dear.
Saying "totally obliterate" a country is a big threat.
Not even Putin has used that terms. (Well his advisors have...)
Sometimes Trump seems to be more trustworthy than Hillary.
But are Hillary and Donald the only ones that the american people have to choose from.
The US is a great country with about 310 million citizens.
Vote for heavens sake!

Amen, brother, to that.
Whether you agree with MY views or opinions or choice of candidate or not.
At least make it count in the voting booth.
Staying home is NOT an option.

This one's for all the marbles, kiddos.
Vote this time, or forever live in shame, no matter the outcome.

Meow.
"Learn from yesterday. Live for today. Hope for tomorrow." Albert Einstein
"With cats." kittyman

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Message 1811204 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 3:17:14 UTC - in response to Message 1810784.  

Clinton says U.S. could "totally obliterate" Iran.
Old news, but I maintain it is relevant.

Oh dear.
Saying "totally obliterate" a country is a big threat.
Not even Putin has used that terms. (Well his advisors have...)
Sometimes Trump seems to be more trustworthy than Hillary.
But are Hillary and Donald the only ones that the american people have to choose from.
The US is a great country with about 310 million citizens.
Vote for heavens sake!
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Message 1811194 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 2:41:10 UTC - in response to Message 1811136.  

I wish Canada could lead by example, but that has not happened
yet.


I wish the US could lead by example too, but that has not happened down here
either. Har! ;^)
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Message 1811136 - Posted: 21 Aug 2016, 21:54:37 UTC - in response to Message 1811134.  

I may like to say something cute here but unfortunately
the town featured in the story is not the only one in
this country. Work is being done to combat the problem,
but the solution is a very long way away, and the will
to proceed is still building in Canada. At least people
here realize that we can't sweep it under the rug any more.
I wish Canada could lead by example, but that has not happened
yet.


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