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Message 1809268 - Posted: 15 Aug 2016, 11:06:58 UTC - in response to Message 1809263.  
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It's true that he has not released his tax records. As for your other assertions--you are not seeing or reading the correct media. Trump got out of the draft on the old flat feet ploy--actually bone spurs in both heels. Prior to that he had deferments due to being a student in college and grad school. In those days you could get an exemption from the draft by getting married or having a "critical" skill such as a master's degree in electrical engineering. When I went in the Army they sent me to a laboratory rather than to Viet Nam.


He also held a news conference where he detailed all of several dozen charities and the amounts given to each. Some of these checks were recently written when the aggregate amount given was called into question by the media. I suspect also that he does not want the tax returns to be seen by the hyenas in the media. He probably has contributed not just to charities but to left-wing democrats as well. Net worth is not determined from a tax filing only income and losses.

He has got out of the draft on the bone spur excuse but as yet no one has seen the actual medical record, so still questionable.

His college report or qualifications have also not been seen, yes he got a degree, but at what level? And for part of what has been seen he only attended some undergrad classes, with no indication he was tested or passed those classes.

On Charity donations, ignore his claims, most of what he has given are the "in kind" variety at his clubs, hotels and golf courses. Therefore given by his companies, not by him personally.
Several news sources have made inquires into his charity donations and we get headlines like this.
Newsexaminer - Donald Trump: The Least Charitable Billionaire In The World
WP - Five questions we still can’t answer about Donald Trump’s charity donations

You realise he is not the largest donator to his own Foundation, don't you.

So if you have evidence of his donations, and that does not include the donations to veterans he organised when missing a televised republican debate, then please post them. I'm sure others would like to see them as well, and we could also send those links to the press so you can get them off Donald's back as well.

edit] Reports at NYT and Newsweek say Pence will release tax details.
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Message 1809263 - Posted: 15 Aug 2016, 10:30:21 UTC - in response to Message 1808886.  

It's true that he has not released his tax records. As for your other assertions--you are not seeing or reading the correct media. Trump got out of the draft on the old flat feet ploy--actually bone spurs in both heels. Prior to that he had deferments due to being a student in college and grad school. In those days you could get an exemption from the draft by getting married or having a "critical" skill such as a master's degree in electrical engineering. When I went in the Army they sent me to a laboratory rather than to Viet Nam.


He also held a news conference where he detailed all of several dozen charities and the amounts given to each. Some of these checks were recently written when the aggregate amount given was called into question by the media. I suspect also that he does not want the tax returns to be seen by the hyenas in the media. He probably has contributed not just to charities but to left-wing democrats as well. Net worth is not determined from a tax filing only income and losses.
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Message 1809212 - Posted: 15 Aug 2016, 4:55:39 UTC - in response to Message 1809139.  

MK...

Understanding the best Candidate doesn't always win.

Which States, and their Total Electoral Vote, would Johnson win?

How does he realistically win a majority of Electoral votes?

I do not like Clinton or Trump. Both make me want to puke.
Id really like the lame stream media give some time to Johnson. But they will not.
They want Clinton to win to save us all.

I will more than likely vote for him ( And waste a vote ) Than the two bozo's who get the nasty trash talking points.
I will say I'm pretty damn disgusted on how both partys are running for president.
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Message 1809139 - Posted: 14 Aug 2016, 20:41:52 UTC

MK...

Understanding the best Candidate doesn't always win.

Which States, and their Total Electoral Vote, would Johnson win?

How does he realistically win a majority of Electoral votes?
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
--- George Santayana

Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
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Message 1809108 - Posted: 14 Aug 2016, 17:55:35 UTC
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A lot of you all here are totally missing the issue.

It is NOT Trump vs. Clinton...

It IS Trump & Clinton vs. the Constitutional Rule of Law.

Both Trump & Clinton have some rather serious issues with the above concept, as do a great many U.S. Citizens.

Johnson(L) in 2016!
https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

#Texit

Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.
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Message 1808967 - Posted: 13 Aug 2016, 20:47:57 UTC - in response to Message 1808962.  
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Live next door to a murderer. possibly dead. Live next door to a rapist, rapist could be killed by potential victim in self-defense.

What i love about your reasoning Sarge, your dedication to logic and truth,
is the nuance... the understanding of Higher Order, that non-mathematicians will never understand.
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Message 1808962 - Posted: 13 Aug 2016, 20:23:11 UTC - in response to Message 1808897.  

So it would seem that the most criminal is Trump.

Unless of course you can prove otherwise.

WinterKnight...

Most?

As if it is preferable having a Murderer living next door, than a Rapist?

See The Problem?


Live next door to a murderer. possibly dead. Live next door to a rapist, rapist could be killed by potential victim in self-defense.
Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes.
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Message 1808952 - Posted: 13 Aug 2016, 20:05:08 UTC
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A little reminder, please discuss the issues and leave the name calling and personal accusations out.

Thank you.
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Message 1808944 - Posted: 13 Aug 2016, 19:24:04 UTC - in response to Message 1808927.  
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An audit by the IRS has to be completed 3 years after submission.

But there are many special rules that can extend the purgatory.

First, the three years is doubled to six if you omitted more than 25% of your income.
It’s also doubled if you omitted more than $5,000 of foreign income.
Even worse, the IRS has no time limit if you never file a return. The three years never starts to run.

So the onus is on Donald.
Did he submit late?
Did he miss out income?
Did he fail to include foreign earnings?
Did he miss more than one of the above?

For any of the above, you have to, at least ask why, and if you don't get a reasonable answer.
What are most people going to assume?
That he has or is hiding something is the most obvious reason, therefore his honesty has to be questionable.
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Message 1808926 - Posted: 13 Aug 2016, 18:23:00 UTC - in response to Message 1808918.  

Bobby we all know he won't do that because it will show many of his claims are pure lying BS including claims of charitable contributions. That is the only valid reason for his behavior in this situation.
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Message 1808918 - Posted: 13 Aug 2016, 17:53:51 UTC - in response to Message 1808912.  

winternight

That felon hillary released her tax records.

Trump says, "None of your damn business." "They are currently under audit from the IRS." "I'll release them when the IRS is done with their audit."
[snip]

Really? The man that demanded Obama release his official birth certificate, won't release the official letter showing him to be subject of an IRS audit.

Even if Trump is being audited by the IRS, the IRS would not object to him releasing his tax returns:

IRS Commissioner John Koskinen wrote:
it would be fine for Trump to release returns during an audit
(source)
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1808916 - Posted: 13 Aug 2016, 17:48:00 UTC - in response to Message 1808912.  
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There is no reason for Trump not to release his tax records for all the years up to 2008, as the audit for these years must have been completed.

And other Presidents have disclosed some details of their tax returns while under audit, Nixon did it.
And he doesn't need to disclose all the nitty-gritty just the first two pages for each year would do.

And don't forget he is being hypocritical, again, as he was one of the ones demanding Obama release birth certificate and passport etc. in 2012.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgOq9pBkY0I
Which was a bit late the details had been released in 2008 and again in 2009 by the Hawaii State Department of Health, and the long form version was shown by the White House in 2011.

I'll say again I consider Trump a hypocritical criminal until you can prove otherwise. So far you have only shown opinion.
Time to improve your game.

When is he going to meet the same standards he demanded in 2012.

edit] On the subject of illegal immigrants, could it be possible that a future First Lady might be one?
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Message 1808909 - Posted: 13 Aug 2016, 17:17:42 UTC

The real reasons for the attacks against "Hillary for President" have nothing to do with her competency, but rather the "Global Patriarchy".
Republicans would rather side with "Sharia Law Extremists", in keeping "Women subdued ", than agree that women are oppressed.
Without the Devotion of women around the world Human Kind would no longer exist.
A Hillary Presidency will allow for an 8 years period to address the imbalances in that Patriarchy.
It will resonate Globally.
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Message 1808904 - Posted: 13 Aug 2016, 16:46:20 UTC - in response to Message 1808897.  

So it would seem that the most criminal is Trump.

Unless of course you can prove otherwise.

WinterKnight...

Most?

As if it is preferable having a Murderer living next door, than a Rapist?

See The Problem?

Pure semantics, you and everybody else know what I mean.

Go and find some real reasons to be critical.
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Message 1808897 - Posted: 13 Aug 2016, 15:53:18 UTC
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So it would seem that the most criminal is Trump.

Unless of course you can prove otherwise.

WinterKnight...

Most?

As if it is preferable having a Murderer living next door, than a Rapist?

See The Problem?
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
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Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
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Message 1808886 - Posted: 13 Aug 2016, 14:45:40 UTC - in response to Message 1808862.  

Hillary has released latest Tax Return


What a generous person. 96% of her charitable contributions went to the Clinton Foundation. Charity begins at home--or so they say.


I noticed it's pretty difficult to find this little news nugget anywhere in the media.

Oh! That's right... This highlights the fact that the clintons are felons.

This demonstrates goodthink by the news media. This helps prevent duckspeak and thoughtcrime. To mention this about our beloved leader would be doubleplusungood.

Show me where you can find similar information about that hypocritical, lying candidate named Trump, who refuses to release any information, his education records, his health records (how did he get a medical deferment), his tax records. His tax records would actually show us his wealth, others say it is only half, or even a third of what he claims, and what he gives to charity.

Despite claims from Trumpy of millions so far people have only found charity payments of $10,000 over 7 years. And there are indications some things bought by him at charity auctions, were paid for by Trump Companies, that is strictly a no-no.

So it would seem that the most criminal is Trump.

Unless of course you can prove otherwise.
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Message 1808853 - Posted: 13 Aug 2016, 10:12:17 UTC - in response to Message 1808757.  

Hillary has released latest Tax Return


What a generous person. 96% of her charitable contributions went to the Clinton Foundation. Charity begins at home--or so they say.
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Message 1808827 - Posted: 13 Aug 2016, 5:56:45 UTC

7 hrs. of silence in the Politics forum? Guess Dil and guy got banned, eh?
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