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W-K 666 ![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 13795 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 151
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It's true that he has not released his tax records. As for your other assertions--you are not seeing or reading the correct media. Trump got out of the draft on the old flat feet ploy--actually bone spurs in both heels. Prior to that he had deferments due to being a student in college and grad school. In those days you could get an exemption from the draft by getting married or having a "critical" skill such as a master's degree in electrical engineering. When I went in the Army they sent me to a laboratory rather than to Viet Nam. He has got out of the draft on the bone spur excuse but as yet no one has seen the actual medical record, so still questionable. His college report or qualifications have also not been seen, yes he got a degree, but at what level? And for part of what has been seen he only attended some undergrad classes, with no indication he was tested or passed those classes. On Charity donations, ignore his claims, most of what he has given are the "in kind" variety at his clubs, hotels and golf courses. Therefore given by his companies, not by him personally. Several news sources have made inquires into his charity donations and we get headlines like this. Newsexaminer - Donald Trump: The Least Charitable Billionaire In The World WP - Five questions we still can’t answer about Donald Trump’s charity donations You realise he is not the largest donator to his own Foundation, don't you. So if you have evidence of his donations, and that does not include the donations to veterans he organised when missing a televised republican debate, then please post them. I'm sure others would like to see them as well, and we could also send those links to the press so you can get them off Donald's back as well. edit] Reports at NYT and Newsweek say Pence will release tax details. |
William Rothamel Send message Joined: 25 Oct 06 Posts: 3617 Credit: 1,999,735 RAC: 9
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It's true that he has not released his tax records. As for your other assertions--you are not seeing or reading the correct media. Trump got out of the draft on the old flat feet ploy--actually bone spurs in both heels. Prior to that he had deferments due to being a student in college and grad school. In those days you could get an exemption from the draft by getting married or having a "critical" skill such as a master's degree in electrical engineering. When I went in the Army they sent me to a laboratory rather than to Viet Nam. He also held a news conference where he detailed all of several dozen charities and the amounts given to each. Some of these checks were recently written when the aggregate amount given was called into question by the media. I suspect also that he does not want the tax returns to be seen by the hyenas in the media. He probably has contributed not just to charities but to left-wing democrats as well. Net worth is not determined from a tax filing only income and losses. |
James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 123
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MK... I do not like Clinton or Trump. Both make me want to puke. Id really like the lame stream media give some time to Johnson. But they will not. They want Clinton to win to save us all. I will more than likely vote for him ( And waste a vote ) Than the two bozo's who get the nasty trash talking points. I will say I'm pretty damn disgusted on how both partys are running for president. [/quote]Old James |
Clyde "Liberal" ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Aug 99 Posts: 16376 Credit: 45,556,044 RAC: 62
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MK... Understanding the best Candidate doesn't always win. Which States, and their Total Electoral Vote, would Johnson win? How does he realistically win a majority of Electoral votes? Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --- George Santayana Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. --- Lord Acton |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0
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A lot of you all here are totally missing the issue. It is NOT Trump vs. Clinton... It IS Trump & Clinton vs. the Constitutional Rule of Law. Both Trump & Clinton have some rather serious issues with the above concept, as do a great many U.S. Citizens. Johnson(L) in 2016! https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE #Texit Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016. Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power. |
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pierre Send message Joined: 10 Jul 16 Posts: 22 Credit: 1,265 RAC: 0 |
Live next door to a murderer. possibly dead. Live next door to a rapist, rapist could be killed by potential victim in self-defense. What i love about your reasoning Sarge, your dedication to logic and truth, is the nuance... the understanding of Higher Order, that non-mathematicians will never understand. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 11664 Credit: 8,568,819 RAC: 213
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So it would seem that the most criminal is Trump. Live next door to a murderer. possibly dead. Live next door to a rapist, rapist could be killed by potential victim in self-defense. Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9923 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 745
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A little reminder, please discuss the issues and leave the name calling and personal accusations out. Thank you. |
W-K 666 ![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 13795 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 151
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An audit by the IRS has to be completed 3 years after submission. But there are many special rules that can extend the purgatory. First, the three years is doubled to six if you omitted more than 25% of your income. It’s also doubled if you omitted more than $5,000 of foreign income. Even worse, the IRS has no time limit if you never file a return. The three years never starts to run. So the onus is on Donald. Did he submit late? Did he miss out income? Did he fail to include foreign earnings? Did he miss more than one of the above? For any of the above, you have to, at least ask why, and if you don't get a reasonable answer. What are most people going to assume? That he has or is hiding something is the most obvious reason, therefore his honesty has to be questionable. |
betreger ![]() Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 10273 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 149
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Bobby we all know he won't do that because it will show many of his claims are pure lying BS including claims of charitable contributions. That is the only valid reason for his behavior in this situation. |
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bobby "snowflake" Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 8
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winternight Really? The man that demanded Obama release his official birth certificate, won't release the official letter showing him to be subject of an IRS audit. Even if Trump is being audited by the IRS, the IRS would not object to him releasing his tax returns: IRS Commissioner John Koskinen wrote: it would be fine for Trump to release returns during an audit(source) I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...
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W-K 666 ![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 13795 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 151
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There is no reason for Trump not to release his tax records for all the years up to 2008, as the audit for these years must have been completed. And other Presidents have disclosed some details of their tax returns while under audit, Nixon did it. And he doesn't need to disclose all the nitty-gritty just the first two pages for each year would do. And don't forget he is being hypocritical, again, as he was one of the ones demanding Obama release birth certificate and passport etc. in 2012. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgOq9pBkY0I Which was a bit late the details had been released in 2008 and again in 2009 by the Hawaii State Department of Health, and the long form version was shown by the White House in 2011. I'll say again I consider Trump a hypocritical criminal until you can prove otherwise. So far you have only shown opinion. Time to improve your game. When is he going to meet the same standards he demanded in 2012. edit] On the subject of illegal immigrants, could it be possible that a future First Lady might be one? |
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pierre Send message Joined: 10 Jul 16 Posts: 22 Credit: 1,265 RAC: 0 |
The real reasons for the attacks against "Hillary for President" have nothing to do with her competency, but rather the "Global Patriarchy". Republicans would rather side with "Sharia Law Extremists", in keeping "Women subdued ", than agree that women are oppressed. Without the Devotion of women around the world Human Kind would no longer exist. A Hillary Presidency will allow for an 8 years period to address the imbalances in that Patriarchy. It will resonate Globally. |
W-K 666 ![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 13795 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 151
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So it would seem that the most criminal is Trump. Pure semantics, you and everybody else know what I mean. Go and find some real reasons to be critical. |
Clyde "Liberal" ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Aug 99 Posts: 16376 Credit: 45,556,044 RAC: 62
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So it would seem that the most criminal is Trump. WinterKnight... Most? As if it is preferable having a Murderer living next door, than a Rapist? See The Problem? Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --- George Santayana Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. --- Lord Acton |
W-K 666 ![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 13795 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 151
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Hillary has released latest Tax Return Show me where you can find similar information about that hypocritical, lying candidate named Trump, who refuses to release any information, his education records, his health records (how did he get a medical deferment), his tax records. His tax records would actually show us his wealth, others say it is only half, or even a third of what he claims, and what he gives to charity. Despite claims from Trumpy of millions so far people have only found charity payments of $10,000 over 7 years. And there are indications some things bought by him at charity auctions, were paid for by Trump Companies, that is strictly a no-no. So it would seem that the most criminal is Trump. Unless of course you can prove otherwise. |
William Rothamel Send message Joined: 25 Oct 06 Posts: 3617 Credit: 1,999,735 RAC: 9
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Hillary has released latest Tax Return What a generous person. 96% of her charitable contributions went to the Clinton Foundation. Charity begins at home--or so they say. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 11664 Credit: 8,568,819 RAC: 213
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7 hrs. of silence in the Politics forum? Guess Dil and guy got banned, eh? Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. |
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