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Message 1799327 - Posted: 29 Jun 2016, 7:46:11 UTC
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here is the link on updated builds (r3480): https://cloud.mail.ru/public/4g4V/Gt278t2ku
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Message 1799566 - Posted: 30 Jun 2016, 4:45:02 UTC - in response to Message 1799327.  
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Yes, I see you decreased the CPU usage.. except near the end, same effect around 70% complete then there is a huge upswing in CPU usage

Non_guppi time to complete have gone up slightly

Is this due to a sleep command? If so, can a -no_use_sleep be placed in the commandline to counter it?

edit..

Also noticed this change
LowPerformanceGPU path: no
HighPerformanceGPU path: no


Is there a way to access HighPerformanceGPU path?

Edit 2...

GUPPI work units time to complete also prolonged about 90-120 sec per work unit

I'll test it more tomorrow. I"m assuming you asked 8.13 to release on Beta? No kernal was sent along with work units, but I think we figured out a work around. Going to run those for a while
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Message 1799591 - Posted: 30 Jun 2016, 8:20:53 UTC - in response to Message 1799566.  

Yes, I see you decreased the CPU usage.. except near the end, same effect around 70% complete then there is a huge upswing in CPU usage

Non_guppi time to complete have gone up slightly

Versus what app/config?
Can you post few links to results?


Is this due to a sleep command? If so, can a -no_use_sleep be placed in the commandline to counter it?

sleep active by default only in low-performance path.



Also noticed this change
LowPerformanceGPU path: no
HighPerformanceGPU path: no


Is there a way to access HighPerformanceGPU path?


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GUPPI work units time to complete also prolonged about 90-120 sec per work unit

Same. Versus what and links to result.


I'll test it more tomorrow. I"m assuming you asked 8.13 to release on Beta? No kernal was sent along with work units, but I think we figured out a work around. Going to run those for a while

Yep, Eric is informed already so await 8.14 soon.
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Message 1799887 - Posted: 1 Jul 2016, 12:54:10 UTC - in response to Message 1799591.  

I'll answer these when I can.

The machine I was testing with is on beta for the 8.14, I'll have to return it to main so I can restart it with tasks and get you the information.

Thou, I was commenting on your r3480 that was downloaded from your mail.ru address.

Of course that was before the release of 8.13 then 8.14, so I'm guessing those are the same as the downloaded app?

I did find the high performance command, it decrease time to complete by 15 sec.
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Message 1799902 - Posted: 1 Jul 2016, 13:34:05 UTC - in response to Message 1799887.  

I'll answer these when I can.

I did find the high performance command, it decrease time to complete by 15 sec.


. . From what original runtime?
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Message 1799917 - Posted: 1 Jul 2016, 14:31:45 UTC - in response to Message 1799902.  
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. . From what original runtime?


That was from the Beta site on a single work units (ie only 1 work unit on each GPU rather than running 2 or 3 at a time on it. Ran them overnight). 4 min 30 sec to 4 min 15 secs.

Edit..

I believe the high performance pathway commanline is not yet available on 8.12 although a -low_perf is listed in the stderrs. May have to wait until the next version comes out.
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Message 1799936 - Posted: 1 Jul 2016, 15:53:20 UTC - in response to Message 1799887.  
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Of course that was before the release of 8.13 then 8.14, so I'm guessing those are the same as the downloaded app?

Exactly the same.
So you can run either, just provide -v 6 switch in command line and feed me with data from your GPU :)
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Message 1799937 - Posted: 1 Jul 2016, 15:55:00 UTC - in response to Message 1799887.  


I did find the high performance command, it decrease time to complete by 15 sec.

I suppose you compare with switch and w/o switch.
That's good info. It means I correctly assume what would be better for high-end cards.
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Message 1799938 - Posted: 1 Jul 2016, 15:55:51 UTC - in response to Message 1799917.  

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I believe the high performance pathway commanline is not yet available on 8.12 although a -low_perf is listed in the stderrs. May have to wait until the next version comes out.

It awailable on 8.14+
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Message 1799951 - Posted: 1 Jul 2016, 17:08:22 UTC - in response to Message 1799936.  
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Of course that was before the release of 8.13 then 8.14, so I'm guessing those are the same as the downloaded app?

Exactly the same.
So you can run either, just provide -v 6 switch in command line and feed me with data from your GPU :)



I'm going to change one of my current computers over to your r3480 version and install your -v 6 switch along with the -high_perf and see how it does here on main.

Edit... Spoke too soon.. AP run is happening. After the APs are done, I'll convert the system. I need to run out the cache. The last time I tried this, it "ghosted" 400 work units since I didn't notice the change in nomenclature in the exe file
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Message 1799953 - Posted: 1 Jul 2016, 17:18:54 UTC - in response to Message 1799951.  

Look also if app's working set increase as for iGPU flavour.
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Message 1800055 - Posted: 2 Jul 2016, 2:20:03 UTC
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Raistmer, I've installed your -v 6 and -high_pref in my commandline

The stderr report is very long which I guess is what you are after?

I'll post link to some Non-guppi, but don't ask me to give good examples of ar

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=5017830894

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=5017830952

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=5017830276

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=5017830845

There's a lot more but I'm only posting 4 as I don't know what you are looking for.

Edit..

Running GUPPIs now and will list in a new post
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Message 1800060 - Posted: 2 Jul 2016, 3:07:42 UTC - in response to Message 1800055.  

Ok, here are some GUPPI results

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=5017843460

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=5017843394

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=5017842916

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=5017836911

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=5017830144

Ok, compared to r3430, (these in groups of 3 per card) are running 2-4 minutes longer.

Which is opposite of what is happening on Beta.

I've noticed that the apps on beta don't behave the same way on Main, why is that? This isn't the first time we've brought this up. When you first introduced sah, they ran much faster on Beta but then dragged out once they were released on Main. I would almost say some sort of bloating of the apps but I know that isn't true so any idea why that happens?
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Message 1800079 - Posted: 2 Jul 2016, 6:44:00 UTC - in response to Message 1800060.  
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Thanks, I'll look into.
Regarding different beta/main speeds: provided same ARs compared, the single difference that could explain such behavior is difference in FFTW wisdom files.
Both binaries and CL files should be identical between beta and main after release. One can check this with some hash (md5) generating utility.
Look for FFTW wisdom files in both project directories (*.wisdom). How they differ? You can just rename wisdom file from beta to main one and look if speed will change.
But don't forget that main and beta can generate different sets of tasks (different AR distribution) so comparing averages it could be AR-related issue still.

EDIT: and of course even don't look into run times with any -v N switch besides -v 0 or 1 - increased verbosity definitely will extend elapsed time.
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Message 1800080 - Posted: 2 Jul 2016, 6:54:37 UTC - in response to Message 1800079.  
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All of these have been running with -v 6 since you asked for that. Didn't know it was going to slow down the computation, lol

If you want I can remove the -v 6 and run them without it or do you want them run with -v 1?
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Message 1800082 - Posted: 2 Jul 2016, 7:24:18 UTC - in response to Message 1800080.  


If you want I can remove the -v 6 and run them without it or do you want them run with -v 1?


-v N enables additional printing in stderr. in Case of 6 it's info about timing.
Few tasks of different ARs would be enough. Then it can be removed again (and no need to keep -v N in tuning line for just production runs).

BOINC cuts stderr so maybe I'll prepare special test pack instead of such online tests.
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Message 1800084 - Posted: 2 Jul 2016, 7:44:03 UTC - in response to Message 1800082.  

WU true angle range is : 0.009756 BLC work unit

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=5017930097

WU true angle range is : 0.009039 BLC work unit
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=5017863265


WU true angle range is : 0.382198 non-vlar
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=5017843415

WU true angle range is : 0.382198 non-vlar
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=5017843420

Here is the work units and wingmen

WU true angle range is : 0.009319
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=2198133437

WU true angle range is : 0.382198
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=2198629361

WU true angle range is : 0.428523
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=2200050457

WU true angle range is : 0.010348
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=2199467715

If you need more, I can run more. For now going to run without any -v and see how the times do.
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Message 1800085 - Posted: 2 Jul 2016, 7:44:33 UTC

As reminder: currently not only new 8.14 set of OpenCL apps in test on beta but also new data format testing continues.
So I would recommend to increase share/completely switch to beta for few next weeks.
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Message 1800086 - Posted: 2 Jul 2016, 7:53:31 UTC - in response to Message 1800084.  


If you need more, I can run more. For now going to run without any -v and see how the times do.

No more for now, thanks for provided results.
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Message 1800132 - Posted: 2 Jul 2016, 16:01:38 UTC - in response to Message 1800086.  

ok, since my last post, all work units without -v 6

Time to complete same as when it had -v6

Both GUPPI and non-guppi have increased time to complete. I run 3 at a time and total increase is about 4 minutes for both groups.

I'm going to switch back now to r3430 once my cache runs out.
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