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Message 1792948 - Posted: 2 Jun 2016, 19:30:26 UTC

How will Lunatics help my crunching?

Where do I download the best version?

Are there any problems using Lunatics on an older machine?

Not looking to increase my crunching. Just want to exclude gpu sog
wus.


Thank you for any input

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Message 1792968 - Posted: 2 Jun 2016, 20:58:20 UTC - in response to Message 1792948.  

How will Lunatics help my crunching?

It can speed up doing work on the CPU and GPU, due to better optimized applications.

Where do I download the best version?

See https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=71867&postid=1758149

Are there any problems using Lunatics on an older machine?

How old is older? Your i5 should have no problems, you'll just not be able to use the higher optimized applications.

Not looking to increase my crunching. Just want to exclude gpu sog
wus.

You won't be able to do so with the optimized applications.
Better use the <exclude_gpu> option in cc_config.xml with the <app> element: see http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration#Options

That would be
<cc_config>
  <log_flags>
  </log_flags>
  <options>
    <exclude_gpu>
      <url>https://setiathome.berkeley.edu</url>
        <device_num>0</device_num>
        <type>NVIDIA</type>
        <app>setiathome_8.12_windows_intelx86__opencl_nvidia_SoG</app>
    </exclude_gpu>
  </options>
<cc_config>

Watch out, I used the HTTPS URL for the project. If you used the HTTP link, you need to change it.
Also check the actual application name in the data directory /projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/ directory as I am just guessing it may be that.

Write the cc_config.xml file in the BOINC data directory, saved as ANSI format. If you update to BOINC 7.6 you can write a fully populated cc_config.xml file through BOINC Manager's Event Log options... by just checking one debug flag, then clicking OK, it'll save a whole cc_config.xml file in the correct directory, in the correct format.

Then you only need to hand-edit it with Notepad and insert the lines above in the right place.

By specifying the app name, you tell BOINC you only want to exclude this app being run on your GPU, all other apps are still run.
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Message 1792974 - Posted: 2 Jun 2016, 21:20:25 UTC

One of the moderators told me I could use Lunatics to block SoG wus.

I don't know how to do what you are suggesting. I have problems at
times when I use the keyboard. Had a stroke and sometimes I miss
the obvious. It comes and goes. Can't afford to pay someone to fix
my mistakes as my clone keeps my mind working better. Keeps me occupied.


Thanks


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Message 1792995 - Posted: 2 Jun 2016, 22:47:29 UTC

You won't be able to do so with the optimized applications.


Surely the existing version of Lunatics does not include SoG.

I run Lunatics on my machines and none of them get SoG work except the one running the SoG Beta

So won't installing the Lunatics 0.44 exclude SoG?

Which is why I suggested it.
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Message 1793023 - Posted: 3 Jun 2016, 1:52:35 UTC - in response to Message 1792995.  
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Oh, yes, probably. I wasn't thinking. But then at least explain the downside of optimized apps as well.

Excluding the application works as well. And at least when Seti's apps change, it's one less person who wonders why his do not and the exclusion is easily fixed.

Edit: Let me explain a bit more in-depth what I was thinking, and not do so from my phone ((restarted my PC, I was already in bed, see...)
The application in the Lunatics installer is a highly optimized GPU application.
The SoG application is a highly optimized specifically for GPU application. It's in the name: Signals on GPU.

What I always understood is that the GPU application in the Lunatics package isn't so very different from one released as stock. So who is to say that the Lunatics application isn't the same as the SoG? Go wonder, why else is there an SoG as stock? (And no, I never returned to my 5 app thread in NC, and never ever will again. I have even stopped crunching for Seti and may not ever return, because of the bullcrap answers that some dev we shall not name in that thread gave me, was reason enough for me for that. I said what I wanted to say, stuck up two middle fingers to everyone and left. For all I care you lock and hide that thread. I'm running Primegrid on my GPU now, it taking more than 40 hours to complete a 130k credit task. But at least here I can choose which apps I want, and I don't get 7 sent my direction to just nilly-willy figure out what runs best on my system, all doing the same kind of work.)

So perhaps it may be wiser to just exclude the SoG application(s). Especially if it's only these that give the problems.
And not sure if that's also not a possibility through the app_config.xml file, but I didn't dwell on that.

(Okay, back to bed. PC is going off again.)
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Message 1793026 - Posted: 3 Jun 2016, 2:13:56 UTC

Thanks all. I installed lunatics and it did not download any SoG wus.
All is good in the world again.


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Message 1793027 - Posted: 3 Jun 2016, 2:15:38 UTC - in response to Message 1793026.  

Do know:

When Seti changes its applications, your system will not automatically follow and install the newest ones. You'll have to wait for Lunatics to release a new installer. This can take several weeks, because of testing.
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