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Message 1824172 - Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 10:26:07 UTC - in response to Message 1823779.  

I can't even download it myself using Chrome, but I suspect the reason is, in Google's words,...

Just for info:

No problem to Download by:
FlashPeak Slimjet Browser Portable 3.1.6.0 (Chromium 40)
("Enable phishing and malware protection" is checked)

... and scan by:
ESET NOD32 Antivirus 4

Lunatics_Win32_v0.45_Beta5-for-SoG_setup.exe
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/26418a11df9d6f08d0877143e0a41cfb7e66af523cc90d523fc701b21c2244cb/analysis/1476439682/

Lunatics_Win64_v0.45_Beta5-for-SoG_setup.exe
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/4cf019d4da6ff8905503f9ffb087c317127b3b813036581ec445e4d695cfd73b/analysis/1476439815/
 


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Message 1824466 - Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 15:41:44 UTC

Hi guys,

Since i ran Lunatics_Win64_v0.45_Beta5-for-SoG_setup.exe on top of my old lunatics setup ( overwritten it ), i'm not receiving any GPU WU's anymore, for about 2 days.
CPU wu's are cruching fine.

Anyone else with this problem? ( Win10 x64 )

Or should i just re-install boinc completely?
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Message 1824475 - Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 16:20:48 UTC - in response to Message 1824466.  

Re-installing BOINC should never be necessary. Since it's a Beta test, let's try to debug it.

Can you remember which application choices you made? There are four screens, and two sets of choices on each screen:

CPU
ATi
NVidia
Intel GPU

Astropulse
MultiBeam

How many of the eight possible apps had you chosen for your previous installation? How many did you choose this time?

I assume this is your Xeon E5-2670 with GeForce GTX 980: I see that you have received GPU tasks on 12 October, like task 5214530541, and processed them using the r3528 application: Beta5 is the first Lunatics installer to include that version. So, could you please click the 'update' button on the Projects tab in BOINC Manager (selecting the SETI project, of course): then open the Event Log, and post the entire block of Event Log messages associated with the update here for us to try and investigate.
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Message 1824484 - Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 17:13:44 UTC

Oke, i did a little investigation and saw that MB8_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_NV_SoG_r3528.exe had been vanished.

Thanks Richard, the log cleared that up that the file was missing.
Re-installing you Lunatics installer has fixed it.

Don't think it has anything to do with your installer because its working fine now.
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Message 1824486 - Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 17:21:50 UTC - in response to Message 1824484.  

Phew, that's a relief - thanks for clearing it up.

A missing .exe file? That could be an over-enthusiastic AV scan. Do you run any anti-virus product that might keep usable logs?
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Message 1824548 - Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 21:18:05 UTC - in response to Message 1824466.  
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. . Hi Richard,

. . I am probably a little obtuse. When the release of Beta5 was imminent I posted a comment about the advantages of using Lunatics and I cheekily said that the only thing missing was support for SSE4.2. You cryptically responded that this was hinted at in your reply to a message from Wiggo. Does that mean that support for SSE4.2 has become available?

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Message 1824591 - Posted: 16 Oct 2016, 1:49:08 UTC - in response to Message 1824486.  

A missing .exe file? That could be an over-enthusiastic AV scan.

It could perhaps be an over-enthusiastic BOINC, too. I just transitioned two of my machines from SoG 8.12 to 8.19 by adding 8.19 as an additional app version, rather than just replacing the old version. (One way or another, I knew I was going to have to manually edit app_info, with or without the installer, so this was the approach I took.)

All new GPU work was then downloaded as 8.19 (for SoG r3528), while r3500 continued to work off all the previously downloaded 8.12 tasks. This worked fine until each machine had fully transitioned over to 8.19, with no 8.12 left in the queue. Then, the next restart for each machine, one last evening and one just about an hour ago, yielded this near the top of the Event Log:

10/15/2016 5:27:36 PM | SETI@home | Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
10/15/2016 5:27:36 PM | SETI@home | File referenced in app_info.xml does not exist: MB8_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_NV_SoG_r3500.exe
10/15/2016 5:27:36 PM | SETI@home | File referenced in app_info.xml does not exist: MultiBeam_Kernels_r3500.cl
10/15/2016 5:27:36 PM | SETI@home | [error] State file error: missing application file MB8_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_NV_SoG_r3500.exe
10/15/2016 5:27:36 PM | SETI@home | [error] State file error: missing application file MB8_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_NV_SoG_r3500.exe


Yep, both those files had vanished from the S@h folder. It appears that once BOINC decided it no longer needed the r3500 files, it simply trashed them, then complained about them being missing. No harm done, no task errors, but now I have to go back into each app_info and completely get rid of all 8.12 and r3500 references.

It seems to me that I remember seeing that happening with stock apps, when moving from S@h v6 to v7, but I don't believe I'd seen it with Anonymous Platform and, frankly, I can't think of a legitimate reason for BOINC to do that. Anyone have any thoughts as to why it might?
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Message 1826374 - Posted: 23 Oct 2016, 22:53:25 UTC

. . Hello everyone,

. . The fact that it is so quiet in here leads me to believe that everyone is happily running Beta(5) without problems. Otherwise it means that very few people have taken to it ... :(

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Message 1826378 - Posted: 23 Oct 2016, 23:05:13 UTC

v0.45 - Beta5 installed fine on all 3 of my computers and all looks to be running fine here for the last week.

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Message 1826381 - Posted: 23 Oct 2016, 23:18:32 UTC - in response to Message 1826378.  

v0.45 - Beta5 installed fine on all 3 of my computers and all looks to be running fine here for the last week.

Cheers.


. . Hi Wiggo,

. . It is only running on La Bamba but is running very nicely there. The output is impressive.

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Message 1826501 - Posted: 24 Oct 2016, 15:34:32 UTC - in response to Message 1826374.  

. . Hello everyone


running fine on mine

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Message 1826531 - Posted: 24 Oct 2016, 17:24:34 UTC

Running fine on a 750 Ti under Windows Vista and a 440 under Windows 10.
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Message 1826681 - Posted: 25 Oct 2016, 13:13:48 UTC - in response to Message 1826531.  

I am seeing no problems on my 750TIs. Inconclusives seem to be running at about 10% and that seems to be mostly against MACs.

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Message 1827799 - Posted: 1 Nov 2016, 0:29:03 UTC - in response to Message 1826681.  

I am seeing no problems on my 750TIs. Inconclusives seem to be running at about 10% and that seems to be mostly against MACs.


. . Well the message boards have gone surprisingly quiet, so it seems that v8.19/r2528 is causing no one any heartburn. A very good sign and testament to quality of the hard work Raistmer has put in.

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Message 1827848 - Posted: 1 Nov 2016, 8:44:26 UTC

Will there be a new Beta/RC including the v8.20 for Intel GPU that is currently available over on Beta ? The new v8.20 seems to solve the problems with inconclusives on Skylake GPUs.
I would like to update my system and use the latest Lunatics version, but I would prefer a version that solves the issues with Skylake GPU. Any guess about how long it will take before there is a new Beta/RC ?

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Message 1827850 - Posted: 1 Nov 2016, 9:00:54 UTC - in response to Message 1827848.  

I've got other duties which I have to attend to today, and at this stage I don't know how long they'll take. Also, I see Raistmer slipped out a new build a couple of days ago to address the inconclusives issue - it would be good to check that one out as well, and if appropriate update both builds at the same time.

Maybe a couple of days.
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Message 1828628 - Posted: 5 Nov 2016, 19:06:16 UTC

I have never seen such a delay in getting a new installer released.

Is SOG really that unstable an app????
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Message 1828630 - Posted: 5 Nov 2016, 19:14:57 UTC - in response to Message 1828628.  

I have never seen such a delay in getting a new installer released.

Is SOG really that unstable an app????

Not unstable, just unfinished.

There was another new version today (message 1828507), to address a long-standing issue: so we restart the offline test cycle.
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Message 1828631 - Posted: 5 Nov 2016, 19:18:49 UTC - in response to Message 1828630.  

I have never seen such a delay in getting a new installer released.

Is SOG really that unstable an app????

Not unstable, just unfinished.

There was another new version today (message 1828507), to address a long-standing issue: so we restart the offline test cycle.

Well, the kitties much appreciate your efforts. Really do.

And don't get me wrong.....I would not want anything to be rushed if it is not working correctly.

The kitties are just getting anxious for the next stage in their crunching abilities./
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Message 1829188 - Posted: 8 Nov 2016, 12:57:45 UTC
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OK, after yet another new build on Sunday night, we seem to have a brief pause between server crashes, so I've uploaded...

Beta 6

The key features are:
NV SoG r3557, aimed at reducing the number of inconclusive validations
Intel GPU r3541 (that's the same as v8.20 at Beta), which solves the long-standing problem of validation on Skylake 6th. generation iGPUs

[BTW, has anyone ever tried running Astropulse on a Skylake?]

Every time I look at OneDrive, it shows me a different url, but the one we used last time still seems to work:

https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=8D83BF774A4A86F5!979&authkey=!AK7t-36P9nAec2Y&ithint=folder%2cexe

As usual, expect your antivirus program to be suspicious of the new files until a number of you have downloaded them.
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