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Message 1817611 - Posted: 16 Sep 2016, 18:27:31 UTC - in response to Message 1817604.  

OpenCL-kernels filename : MultiBeam_Kernels_r3500.cl
CL file build log on device GeForce GTX 750 Ti

INFO: can't build program from binary kernels, code 0 , recompiling from source...
Error : Building Program (binary, clBuildProgram):main kernels: not OK code -6
CL file build log on device GeForce GTX 750 Ti

But followed at the next attempt by

CPU features: FPU TSC PAE CMPXCHG8B APIC SYSENTER MTRR CMOV/CCMP MMX FXSAVE/FXRSTOR SSE SSE2 HT SSE3 SSSE3 FMA3 SSE4.1 SSE4.2 AVX
OpenCL-kernels filename : MultiBeam_Kernels_r3500.cl
ar=0.012665 NumCfft=117119 NumGauss=0 NumPulse=47842204544 NumTriplet=60817138848
Currently allocated 585 MB for GPU buffers
In v_BaseLineSmooth: NumDataPoints=1048576, BoxCarLength=8192, NumPointsInChunk=32768

and from there on, it completed and was validated - with no sign of re-compiling, so the binary file was there all along.

It would be interesting if Cliff could search the log files BilBg suggested for

blc4_2bit_guppi_57449_43932_HIP78775_0013.24448.0.18.27.37.vlar

and post the whole history, from the first attempt at running to final completion. One possible thought: since Cliff has two identical GPUs in the host, if two copies of the app tried to start at nearly the same instant, might one suffer an access problem?


15-Sep-2016 23:59:13 [SETI@home] Starting task blc4_2bit_guppi_57449_43932_HIP78775_0013.24448.0.18.27.37.vlar_0
15-Sep-2016 23:59:21 [SETI@home] task postponed 30.000000 sec:
15-Sep-2016 23:59:21 [SETI@home] task postponed 30.000000 sec:
15-Sep-2016 23:59:21 [SETI@home] Task postponed: CL file build failure
16-Sep-2016 01:28:50 [SETI@home] Computation for task blc4_2bit_guppi_57449_43932_HIP78775_0013.24448.0.18.27.37.vlar_0 finished
16-Sep-2016 01:28:52 [SETI@home] Started upload of blc4_2bit_guppi_57449_43932_HIP78775_0013.24448.0.18.27.37.vlar_0_0
16-Sep-2016 01:28:55 [SETI@home] Finished upload of blc4_2bit_guppi_57449_43932_HIP78775_0013.24448.0.18.27.37.vlar_0_0

I could possibly see your argument about 2 identical GPUs starting tasks at nearly the same time, except if that was the case I should have seen this error on a much more frequent basis. There have been times when I've seen both GPUs start tasks at the same/nearly the same time and complete successfully the first time around, regardless if they came from Arecibo of Green Banks or a mixture of the two.


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Message 1817612 - Posted: 16 Sep 2016, 18:30:05 UTC - in response to Message 1817604.  

One possible thought: since Cliff has two identical GPUs in the host, if two copies of the app tried to start at nearly the same instant, might one suffer an access problem?

I had a somewhat similar timing problem over on Beta when I added a new GPU and tried to start 3 tasks at once. (See Message 59299)
I just got the third GTX 960 installed in my newly acquired xw9400 and am running stock for initial testing. The first 3 tasks D/L'd were 8.17 SoG, but 2 of them failed immediately because, apparently, all three of them couldn't compile the new Kernel at the same time. Go figure!

However, those actually resulted in errors, not just postponements. (See Task 24538029.)
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Message 1817617 - Posted: 16 Sep 2016, 18:49:16 UTC - in response to Message 1817592.  
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Will r3528 come out in beta -5 or do I need to do a stand-alone install?

Raistmer has found something 'worth a deeper look', which suggests r3528 won't be the end of the line. So it's not worth hanging on for a full final release - I'll try and get a Beta5 out tomorrow, in the hope we can catch all the bugs in one go if we all combine forces. (A bit late to start that on a Friday night, this side of the pond)

So far it's in best gaussian only, all reportable reported OK. Until smth new appears it's not show-stopper and r3528 is RC still (Besides, Zalster runs SoG and best was reported there).
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Message 1817618 - Posted: 16 Sep 2016, 18:50:17 UTC - in response to Message 1817612.  

Cliff, I think they are right, look to your commandline.

Bring it down a bit and see if these resolve
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Message 1817619 - Posted: 16 Sep 2016, 18:53:01 UTC - in response to Message 1817611.  

I could possibly see your argument about 2 identical GPUs starting tasks at nearly the same time, except if that was the case I should have seen this error on a much more frequent basis. There have been times when I've seen both GPUs start tasks at the same/nearly the same time and complete successfully the first time around, regardless if they came from Arecibo of Green Banks or a mixture of the two.

After initial binary cache build those files are accessed only for read so non-blocking and can be read by as many instances as needed. It's rare enough event what you encountered.
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Message 1817621 - Posted: 16 Sep 2016, 19:28:38 UTC - in response to Message 1817618.  

Cliff, I think they are right, look to your commandline.

Bring it down a bit and see if these resolve


Already done, but I still don't think that is the solution to the problem. That cmd_line has been used since beta -4 was put on main and I should have seen more of these errors. I think I've found another task with a similar build failure, this one from Arecibo. I looked at the stdoutae.txt and found
the build failure line missing in the log, so I don't think it got to the notice tab either.

15-Sep-2016 19:30:19 [SETI@home] Starting task 22dc09ab.16767.2525.7.34.68_0
15-Sep-2016 19:30:26 [SETI@home] task postponed 30.000000 sec:
15-Sep-2016 19:30:26 [SETI@home] task postponed 30.000000 sec:
15-Sep-2016 20:09:38 [SETI@home] Computation for task 22dc09ab.16767.2525.7.34.68_0 finished

https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=5156804058

Info: BOINC provided OpenCL device ID used
ERROR: OpenCL kernel/call 'clCreateContext' call failed (999) in file ..\..\..\src\GPU_lock.cpp near line 1299.
Waiting 30 sec before restart...


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Message 1817638 - Posted: 16 Sep 2016, 20:14:26 UTC - in response to Message 1817621.  
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Edited..

How many work units per card are you running?
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Message 1817639 - Posted: 16 Sep 2016, 20:26:24 UTC - in response to Message 1817621.  
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Cliff, I think they are right, look to your commandline.

Bring it down a bit and see if these resolve


Already done, but I still don't think that is the solution to the problem. That cmd_line has been used since beta -4 was put on main and I should have seen more of these errors. I think I've found another task with a similar build failure, this one from Arecibo. I looked at the stdoutae.txt and found
the build failure line missing in the log, so I don't think it got to the notice tab either.

15-Sep-2016 19:30:19 [SETI@home] Starting task 22dc09ab.16767.2525.7.34.68_0
15-Sep-2016 19:30:26 [SETI@home] task postponed 30.000000 sec:
15-Sep-2016 19:30:26 [SETI@home] task postponed 30.000000 sec:
15-Sep-2016 20:09:38 [SETI@home] Computation for task 22dc09ab.16767.2525.7.34.68_0 finished

https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=5156804058

Info: BOINC provided OpenCL device ID used
ERROR: OpenCL kernel/call 'clCreateContext' call failed (999) in file ..\..\..\src\GPU_lock.cpp near line 1299.
Waiting 30 sec before restart...

You've got lots of various "ERROR:" messages in your current task list, 24 according to my search. I think you're probably pushing some memory limits but problems only show up when multiple tasks are stretching the limit at the same time, possibly when trying to allocate buffers.

Examples:
Task 5156804058
ERROR: OpenCL kernel/call 'clCreateContext' call failed (999) in file ..\..\..\src\GPU_lock.cpp near line 1299.
Waiting 30 sec before restart...

Task 5117714628
ERROR: OpenCL kernel/call 'Enqueueing kernel:Transpose4_kernel_cl(pulse)' call failed (-4) in file ..\analyzePoT.cpp near line 4282.
Waiting 30 sec before restart...

Task 525058453
ERROR: OpenCL kernel/call 'clCreateContext' call failed (-5) in file ..\..\..\src\GPU_lock.cpp near line 1299.
Waiting 30 sec before restart...


etc., etc.

EDIT: In fact, here's the whole list, just without the task links:
Task 5096108890
    320: ERROR: OpenCL kernel/call 'clEnqueueMapBuffer(gpu_result_flag)' call failed (-36) in file ..\analyzePoT.cpp near line 3215.
Task 5115334440
    203: ERROR: OpenCL kernel/call 'clEnqueueMapBuffer(gpu_result_flag)' call failed (-36) in file ..\analyzePoT.cpp near line 3215.
Task 5117714628
    196: ERROR: OpenCL kernel/call 'Enqueueing kernel:Transpose4_kernel_cl(pulse)' call failed (-4) in file ..\analyzePoT.cpp near line 4282.
Task 5125058453
     93: ERROR: OpenCL kernel/call 'clCreateContext' call failed (-5) in file ..\..\..\src\GPU_lock.cpp near line 1299.
Task 5129251397
    196: ERROR: OpenCL kernel/call 'clEnqueueMapBuffer(gpu_result_flag)' call failed (-36) in file ..\analyzePoT.cpp near line 2512.
Task 5141904299
    225: ERROR: OpenCL kernel/call 'clCreateContext' call failed (999) in file ..\..\..\src\GPU_lock.cpp near line 1299.
Task 5142324411
    205: ERROR: OpenCL kernel/call 'clEnqueueMapBuffer(gpu_result_flag)' call failed (-36) in file ..\analyzePoT.cpp near line 3006.
Task 5144145197
    211: ERROR: OpenCL kernel/call 'clEnqueueMapBuffer(gpu_result_flag)' call failed (-36) in file ..\analyzePoT.cpp near line 3215.
    252: ERROR: OpenCL kernel/call 'clEnqueueMapBuffer(gpu_result_flag)' call failed (-36) in file ..\analyzePoT.cpp near line 3215.
Task 5150396299
    199: ERROR: OpenCL kernel/call 'clEnqueueMapBuffer(gpu_result_flag)' call failed (-36) in file ..\analyzePoT.cpp near line 3006.
Task 5150672754
    202: ERROR: OpenCL kernel/call 'clEnqueueMapBuffer(gpu_result_flag)' call failed (-36) in file ..\analyzePoT.cpp near line 2062.
Task 5156316910
    208: ERROR: OpenCL kernel/call 'clEnqueueMapBuffer(gpu_result_flag)' call failed (-36) in file ..\analyzePoT.cpp near line 2767.
Task 5156330545
    204: ERROR: OpenCL kernel/call 'clEnqueueMapBuffer(gpu_result_flag)' call failed (-36) in file ..\analyzePoT.cpp near line 2512.
Task 5156392608
    196: ERROR: OpenCL kernel/call ' oclFFT1: clEnqueueNDRangeKernel' call failed (-5) in file ..\..\..\src\OpenCL_FFT\fft_execute.cpp near line 570.
Task 5156772740
    206: ERROR: OpenCL kernel/call 'clEnqueueMapBuffer(gpu_result_flag)' call failed (-36) in file ..\analyzePoT.cpp near line 2512.
Task 5156773009
    203: ERROR: OpenCL kernel/call 'clEnqueueMapBuffer(gpu_result_flag)' call failed (-36) in file ..\analyzePoT.cpp near line 3977.
Task 5156804058
     93: ERROR: OpenCL kernel/call 'clCreateContext' call failed (999) in file ..\..\..\src\GPU_lock.cpp near line 1299.
Task 5157134736
    205: ERROR: OpenCL kernel/call 'clEnqueueMapBuffer(gpu_result_flag)' call failed (-36) in file ..\analyzePoT.cpp near line 2767.
Task 5157247061
    196: ERROR: OpenCL kernel/call 'clEnqueueMapBuffer(gpu_result_flag)' call failed (-36) in file ..\analyzePoT.cpp near line 3215.
Task 5157618461
    201: ERROR: OpenCL kernel/call 'clEnqueueMapBuffer(gpu_result_flag)' call failed (-36) in file ..\analyzePoT.cpp near line 2767.
Task 5157618618
    201: ERROR: OpenCL kernel/call 'clEnqueueMapBuffer(gpu_result_flag)' call failed (-36) in file ..\analyzePoT.cpp near line 3215.
Task 5157658211
    196: ERROR: OpenCL kernel/call 'clEnqueueMapBuffer(gpu_GPUState)' call failed (-36) in file ..\analyzeFuncs.cpp near line 1793.
Task 5157969485
    205: ERROR: OpenCL kernel/call 'clEnqueueMapBuffer(gpu_result_flag)' call failed (-36) in file ..\analyzePoT.cpp near line 2512.
Task 5157982995
    198: ERROR: OpenCL kernel/call 'clEnqueueMapBuffer(gpu_result_flag)' call failed (-36) in file ..\analyzePoT.cpp near line 3006.
Task 5157988929
    198: ERROR: OpenCL kernel/call 'clEnqueueMapBuffer(gpu_result_flag)' call failed (-36) in file ..\analyzePoT.cpp near line 2512.
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Message 1817667 - Posted: 16 Sep 2016, 21:51:59 UTC

I've dropped my tasks to 2 per GPU w/ .5 CPU per task.


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Message 1817706 - Posted: 17 Sep 2016, 0:07:57 UTC - in response to Message 1817667.  

I've dropped my tasks to 2 per GPU w/ .5 CPU per task.

SoG does best with 1 CPU core per WU.

On my systems running SoG I ended up going with just 1WU at a time due to getting (very) intermittent "Finish file present" too long
errors when running more than 1WU, and the gain in output per hour of running more than 1WU was so slight as to not really make it worth while anyway.

i'm running with
-tt 1500 -hp -period_iterations_num 3 -sbs 768 -spike_fft_thresh 4096 -tune 1 64 1 4 -oclfft_tune_gr 256 -oclfft_tune_lr 16 -oclfft_tune_wg 256 -oclfft_tune_ls 512 -oclfft_tune_bn 64 -oclfft_tune_cw 64

-period_iterations_num 3 causes a fair bit of keyboard/screen delay, but I can live with it.
From memory 5 resulted in almost none, 10 in none.
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Message 1817708 - Posted: 17 Sep 2016, 0:17:06 UTC - in response to Message 1817706.  

SoG does best with 1 CPU core per WU.

He's got -use_sleep in his cmdline, so I doubt if a full core is necessary. At least I didn't find it so in my recent experiments with SoG.
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Message 1817712 - Posted: 17 Sep 2016, 0:40:49 UTC - in response to Message 1817617.  

. . Hi Raistmer,

. . What does RC mean please?

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Message 1817713 - Posted: 17 Sep 2016, 0:44:05 UTC - in response to Message 1817712.  

. . Hi Raistmer,

. . What does RC mean please?

Stephen

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In this context RC = Release Candidate.
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Message 1817730 - Posted: 17 Sep 2016, 1:52:44 UTC - in response to Message 1817611.  
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15-Sep-2016 23:59:13 [SETI@home] Starting task blc4_2bit_guppi_57449_43932_HIP78775_0013.24448.0.18.27.37.vlar_0
15-Sep-2016 23:59:21 [SETI@home] task postponed 30.000000 sec:
15-Sep-2016 23:59:21 [SETI@home] task postponed 30.000000 sec:
15-Sep-2016 23:59:21 [SETI@home] Task postponed: CL file build failure
16-Sep-2016 01:28:50 [SETI@home] Computation for task blc4_2bit_guppi_57449_43932_HIP78775_0013.24448.0.18.27.37.vlar_0 finished
16-Sep-2016 01:28:52 [SETI@home] Started upload of blc4_2bit_guppi_57449_43932_HIP78775_0013.24448.0.18.27.37.vlar_0_0
16-Sep-2016 01:28:55 [SETI@home] Finished upload of blc4_2bit_guppi_57449_43932_HIP78775_0013.24448.0.18.27.37.vlar_0_0

It is a Pity the new/current BOINC versions don't show "Restarting task ..." by default.

Which log flag have to be enabled for "Restarting task ..." to appear in Event Log (without too much other clutter)?

I also wonder why BOINC say two times in the same second "task postponed 30.000000 sec: " - is this for one or 2 tasks?
And the string ends with "sec: " (yes, space after :) which suggests something is missing (maybe task name) and will be shown by some log flag.
 
 


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Message 1817737 - Posted: 17 Sep 2016, 2:20:25 UTC - in response to Message 1817730.  
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Which log flag have to be enabled for "Restarting task ..." to appear in Event Log (without too much other clutter)?

That would be cpu_sched.

9/15/2016 9:12:34 PM | SETI@home | [cpu_sched] Restarting task 26fe09ab.11025.10706.9.36.130_0 using setiathome_v8 version 800 (cuda50) in slot 0

Yeah, that's irritated me from the time they made the change. I even rolled back to an earlier BOINC for a long time, but eventually had to start giving in. It's not just from the "Restarting" standpoint either, but from the lack of slot info if you don't turn on cpu_sched. The downside is that you end up with two "Starting task" messages in the log for every task, one without the slot number and one with it. You can't just replace one with the other. Just something we have to accept if we want that additional info, I guess.

EDIT: Just found my original complaint about it, from March, 2014: BOINC 7.2.42 - Reduced info in Event Log?
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Message 1817750 - Posted: 17 Sep 2016, 3:37:26 UTC - in response to Message 1817464.  

My 440 does not appear to be causing any problems, so I now have SETI@home beta running on it.
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. . Maybe one thing, you mentioned the adapters, I take it you are using two adapters getting power from 4 mollex connectors to feed the two six pin sockets on the GPU. Have you checked that they are not running hot? I have read about an issue where a bad connection in such an adapter caused it to overheat and melt the plastic. A bit scary. The reason you need two Mollex per 6pin is that the PCIe is rated at a higher current than the Mollex is. If you are using single Mollex to 6pin then resistance may be causing a voltage drop at that amperage. Just trying to think of anything that might cause problems.

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I must have remembered some adapters from somewhere other than that computer.

No connectors running hot.

One 6-pin PCIE connector direct from the PSU. The other using one adapter from two separate Molex connectors.

The valids only take one wingmate to appear. The invalids initially appear as inconclusive, and take a second wingmate to change the marking to invalid perhaps one day later. Several invalids yesterday; none have appeared yet today, probably due to this delay in marking them.

I'm about to install SIV for the computer with the 560.
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Message 1817771 - Posted: 17 Sep 2016, 6:28:51 UTC - in response to Message 1817750.  

My 440 does not appear to be causing any problems, so I now have SETI@home beta running on it.



. . Fair enough, I do not know how many machines Raistmer needs running r3528/V8.19 for homologation but the more the merrier :)

. . I am waiting for Lunatics 0.45 Beta(5) from Richard so I can put it on my rig with the 970s so I do not have to port them to Beta. That way they will have "real world" data to see how it performs. My little machine is running it on Beta at the moment.

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Message 1817772 - Posted: 17 Sep 2016, 6:31:04 UTC - in response to Message 1817766.  


I must have remembered some adapters from somewhere other than that computer.

No connectors running hot.

One 6-pin PCIE connector direct from the PSU. The other using one adapter from two separate Molex connectors.

The valids only take one wingmate to appear. The invalids initially appear as inconclusive, and take a second wingmate to change the marking to invalid perhaps one day later. Several invalids yesterday; none have appeared yet today, probably due to this delay in marking them.

I'm about to install SIV for the computer with the 560.


. . OK I hope it helps solve the problem for you.

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Message 1817792 - Posted: 17 Sep 2016, 10:25:14 UTC - in response to Message 1817712.  

. . Hi Raistmer,

. . What does RC mean please?

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RC=Release Candidate.
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