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Zalster Send message Joined: 27 May 99 Posts: 5517 Credit: 528,817,460 RAC: 242 |
Yeah, I've don't use the -use_sleep command due to that reason but you have to make sure that you have enough CPU Cores for each work unit plus 1-2 more for the OS, so you can't do 8 work units on an 8 core. Otherwise the system will lock up and force a manual reboot. However for people that see too much CPU usage and lag, the -use_sleep is a good commandline for them to free up CPU cores. Yes, I commented about the Red Kernal usage when a while back but it doesn't harm the computer. Your times look pretty close to what mine are doing. |
Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 |
I've only been doing 4 GPU tasks at a time on each computer for quite a while now. Ever since Mike convinced me that for AMD FX processors it is best to only use 4 cores to crunch CPU tasks with because of its unique sharing of a floating point processor in each module. So that enabled the 4 "spare" cores to support GPU task crunching along with system upkeep. Haven't really seen any impact to CPU task completion so far which I thought I would because their really isn't much spare CPU cycles anymore. Need to keep monitoring things. So good, so far. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
Stephen "Heretic" Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 |
[quote][edit] a pity it didn't work though. Use button and Copy/Paste the following line to Notepad: ->Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â <- space (nbsp) Then use (Copy/Paste from Notepad in future) the "spaces" that are between the arrows. P.S. - Do not Copy the above line from the page, Copy from the typing box after [Quote] button. - Use [Preview] button before post to see if "it did work" Alt+255 (and similar) exist since MS-DOS times. "Your spaces" look like normal spaces (Hex: 20 20 20 ...) and "My spaces" look like A0 A0 A0 ...: 20 20 20 20 20 20 54 68 69 73 20 69 73 20 73 6F 20 6D 75 63 68 20 62 65 74 74 65 72 : This is so much better 2D 3E A0 A0 A0 A0 A0 A0 A0 A0 A0 A0 A0 A0 A0 A0 A0 3C 2D : ->Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â <- -> <- -> <- . . Even when I copy your spaces, both directly and via a notepad file, once I paste them into a message they end up disappearing when it is posted so I am guessing that Hex character 'A0' is not supported in the character set loaded on this machine. Or there is something that changes them to Hex character '20'. . . Thanks for trying to help. |
Stephen "Heretic" Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 |
[quote][edit] a pity it didn't work though. Â Â test ^ worked for me ... though I've found the pre /pre functions to be more useful ... . . I guess I need to learn to use that. |
BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 3720 Credit: 9,385,827 RAC: 0 |
Use [Quote] button and Copy/Paste the following line to Notepad: You Quoted my line (above) and it is OK This is "copy directly" from the typing box, Not from the page: ->Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â <- space (nbsp) So nothing changes them in the browser. Alt+255 works in any program, e.g. while typing in Notepad. Try it. Save the .txt (as ANSI) and open in Hex Editor - what do you see? https://mh-nexus.de/en/hxd/ Â - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :) Â |
BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 3720 Credit: 9,385,827 RAC: 0 |
this installer is designed to preserve your downloaded tasks and pick up where your previous application left off. That includes when switching between CUDA and SoG, in either direction. "The installer is designed to preserve" but users are not ;) One user 'aborted the Cuda WUs that were "Ready to start"' after installing SoG app by this installer. He didn't understand that what is shown in BOINC Manager (tasks marked as CUDA) is not the reality. He wants/advices for "at least inform the user at the end of the Lunatics setup" about this "quirk": http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=79766&postid=1797177#1797177 Â - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :) Â |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14679 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
this installer is designed to preserve your downloaded tasks and pick up where your previous application left off. That includes when switching between CUDA and SoG, in either direction. Yes, I've been looking for ways of installing intelligence (or even basic literacy) into users for some time. So far, without success. I'm just back from my local beer supplier, so unwise to address the issue tonight. I'll try to find some words of one syllable in the morning. It is a Beta, after all. |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 66359 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
One thing I would like to see in the installer, if this is possible, preserving the "count" in the app info file, I have to manually go back in after updating Lunatics and find "count>1" and replace with "count>0.33", minus the " marks of course. And/or some way to set the count in the installer. Savoir-Faire is everywhere! The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14679 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
One thing I would like to see in the installer, if this is possible, preserving the "count" in the app info file, I have to manually go back in after updating Lunatics and find "count>1" and replace with "count>0.33", minus the " marks of course. I recognise that's an issue, but with "Replace all" available in Notepad and upgraded replacements like Notepad++, it doesn't tale long to do it safely. But I have for some time been advocating that people switch to the alternative app_config.xml file (see Application configuration): <gpu_usage> performs exactly the same function as <count>. The installer (by design) leaves any app_config.xml file untouched during installation. And/or some way to set the count in the installer. That would be nice, I agree - but it would be complicated using the current technology. I fear I will probably have to leave that to the next generation of installer writers. |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13855 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
One user 'aborted the Cuda WUs that were "Ready to start"' after installing SoG app by this installer. How about "In the Application column current work will retain it's existing application naming, but will be crunched by the new application (use Task Manager to see what is actually running). Any new work downloaded will have the new applications' naming." Grant Darwin NT |
Stephen "Heretic" Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 |
Use [Quote] button and Copy/Paste the following line to Notepad: . . When quoted by the messaging software they remain intact, but once I cut and paste them they change. I have downloaded the hex editor and I will have a look. Thanks again. |
BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 3720 Credit: 9,385,827 RAC: 0 |
I fear I will probably have to leave that to the next generation of installer writers. You may just put an "example" app_config.xml file in docs\ in a hope that people even look in docs\ (and maybe ReadMe_app_config.txt to say some short info where to copy it and what to edit in it?) Â - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :) Â |
BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 3720 Credit: 9,385,827 RAC: 0 |
I have downloaded the hex editor I hope you did NOT used download.cnet.com ! Use the FTP download link: ftp://wa651f4:anonymous@mh-nexus.de/HxDSetupEN.zip I prefer 'portable' (no install): ftp://wa651f4:anonymous@mh-nexus.de/HxDen.zip   - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :)  |
Stephen "Heretic" Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 |
I have downloaded the hex editor . . Sadly I did, it was the top option. . . Should I try one of these two then? |
BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 3720 Credit: 9,385,827 RAC: 0 |
OK, I checked and THIS TIME the CNET Download is clean (identical file to HxDSetupEN.zip from the FTP download link) But CNET is source of adware ("infects" browser) which THEY put "around" many of the free files, see user comments: https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/download.cnet.com You should have one of these files: https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/ea6ea4d4cc90f891915856b0393f99f275c0b6bb2a9e75a6b262117a18a2a469/analysis/ https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/ec8ab9522eefd2db19a18203e4195430a12c0c9e49b1e15cf195cee385da0d0c/analysis/ Look in "Additional information" for MD5 and File size. Or just send your file for scan: https://www.virustotal.com/en/ Â - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :) Â |
Stephen "Heretic" Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 |
OK, I checked and THIS TIME the CNET Download is clean (identical file to HxDSetupEN.zip from the FTP download link) . . I will follow that up. |
I3APR Send message Joined: 23 Apr 16 Posts: 99 Credit: 70,717,488 RAC: 0 |
Can someone please provide a link for Lunatics v0.45 beta 3 other than the one on the first post ? Dunno why, but it seems I can't download it : after 15 minutes it is stuck @ < 1 Mbyte and when it finish, but it is damaged ( probably self-aborted ). Tried this on three different servers, no joy, and speedtest gives me a solid 7 MB/s.. :-( Thank you A. |
Stephen "Heretic" Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 |
Can someone please provide a link for Lunatics v0.45 beta 3 other than the one on the first post ? . . I think the earliest version has been removed, (or so I thought anyway). The Newest version of the Beta is version 3 so look for a link to 0.45 Beta(3) . . I cannot remember how far back that posting would be. |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22538 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
The link in Richard's first post is to his OneDrive folder for the current version of the 0.45 installer, (Beta3 just now) and is works. There are two files there, one for the 32-bit installer and one for the 64-bit installer. The 64-bit version is 20.945kb long, is a "proper" executable file, so runs as it is (or at least starts without fault). All I can suggest it that something got in the way of your download and damaged it, two things come to mind, either an over-frisky AV program or a temporary glitch with your isp. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
I3APR Send message Joined: 23 Apr 16 Posts: 99 Credit: 70,717,488 RAC: 0 |
The link in Richard's first post is to his OneDrive folder for the current version of the 0.45 installer, (Beta3 just now) and is works. There are two files there, one for the 32-bit installer and one for the 64-bit installer. Hi Rob, the three hosts @home had no antivirus installed, so I thought that some ISP glitch was preventing the download, as you suggested. However, this morning I have tried that with my pc @work, which is connected to a proxy server in the U.K. ( totally different ISP ) and got the same result... : three self-aborted download @2, 7 and 9.5 Mb ( Installer integrity check ) So, again..please someone can provide an alternative link ? Thank you in advance.. A. |
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